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  • Potential for "Suh-like" impact?

    Now that the 2009 season and its requisite draft are over, it is clear that N. Suh had the largest overall impact of any single player. I say this because he undeniably revolutionized, or at least had a huge impact on the way we look at college football. Defensive line has become the new "glamour" position of sorts, popularized more so than has the position since perhaps Lawrence Taylor.

    When one thinks of the 2009 season, or more particularly a player from the 2009 season, one is probably remembering the force that was Ndamukong Suh.

    Thusly, I think its fair to add Suh to the list of college football players that not only made the All-American teams, owned the stat sheets, and grabbed headlines, but who went so far as to completely change the way we view his position, and therefore, the game itself.

    Who else qualifies for such an honor? In the past 10 years, only a few names come to mind as definites : QB Vince Young, and APB Reggie Bush.


    Here's the actual point of this post: Which current CFB players (meaning classes 2011- 2014) do you think have a shot at replicating, or at least coming close to replicating the type of effect N. Suh had upon the game with this past season?

    I'm not asking for only those players you think will be All-Century performers or anything, just guys you can see becoming legitimately among the recent best at what they do.

    I'll throw one out there:

    DE Robert Quinn, North Carolina

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    I don't know if he will necessarily blow people out of the water with his stats even though they should still be really good, but Adrian Clayborn could have a Suh-like impact for Iowa's DL, especially on running plays.

    We saw in the Orange Bowl GTech in the 2nd half completely avoided running to their left (Clayborn at RE). I think more teams will avoid running toward Clayborn, which could really change an offensive gameplan.

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    • #3
      Marcus Fortson, Miami

      That whole D-Line is gonna be crazy much like The Huskers were with Suh in the middle but I think Fortson is gonna make it dominant. Taking nothing away from Hulk Bailey of course


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      • #4
        A couple players that I would watch out for:

        Seantrel Henderson OT USC 2014
        The potential is definitely there for him to be one of the best offensive lineman that we've seen in years. I honestly thought he would have been better suited at a school like Notre Dame or Ohio State, but can't put the kid down for getting a full ride to a school like USC. Crazy athleticism and feet for a kid his age and size. He's only going to get better.

        Vontaze Burfict LB Arizona State 2013
        Burfict has the most potential of any linebacker in the nation right now and has the production to back it up. Whenever he decides to enter the draft, he'll be a Top 10 pick.

        BoneKruser with the DOPE sig

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        • #5
          i've seen a lot from Ohio State players and Iowa players saying "this guy's gonna be next year's Suh" when talking about Heyward and Clayborn respectively.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
            i've seen a lot from Ohio State players and Iowa players saying "this guy's gonna be next year's Suh" when talking about Heyward and Clayborn respectively.
            What's OSU looking like at LT? I'm not reallly familiar with their OL. And does Heyward usually lineup on the left or right?

            The Iowa-OSU game should be huge in looking at both Heyward and Clayborn. If Heyward is on the right, he will go up against Riley Reiff who should be a very good LT and high pro prospect by his junior year (he will be a RS Soph). But if he lines up on the left, hopefully the right side of our line is solid by the game because right now it looks a little questionable.

            It would be awesome if both guys have huge years and there's all kinds of debate for who is better. It would be great positive publicity for the Big XI.

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            • #7
              Not seeing any ND player who will revolutionise his position any time soon. Closest will be Kyle Rudolph who is as athletic as anyone playing his position and is so with a good head on his shoulders. However, he will just be really really good, not absurd imo.

              If I had to throw a name out there:

              Kuechly (sp) the Boston College frosh mlb


              Saints 2014 draft wish list:
              - No pass rusher till the fourth round (or preferably at all)
              - Corner or Wideout in the first
              - No reaching
              - No Kelvin Benjamin

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              • #8
                Originally posted by iowatreat54 View Post
                What's OSU looking like at LT? I'm not reallly familiar with their OL. And does Heyward usually lineup on the left or right?

                The Iowa-OSU game should be huge in looking at both Heyward and Clayborn. If Heyward is on the right, he will go up against Riley Reiff who should be a very good LT and high pro prospect by his junior year (he will be a RS Soph). But if he lines up on the left, hopefully the right side of our line is solid by the game because right now it looks a little questionable.

                It would be awesome if both guys have huge years and there's all kinds of debate for who is better. It would be great positive publicity for the Big XI.
                I think the starting O-Line for the Buckeyes will end up looking like this:

                LT: Mike Adams
                LG: Justin Boren
                C: Mike Brewster
                RG: Bryant Browning
                RT: J.B. Shugarts

                BoneKruser with the DOPE sig

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                • #9
                  yeah, Mike has all but locked up the left tackle spot this spring. This is our best OLine and OLine depth we've had under Tressel.

                  Heyward plays the left end and on passing downs sometimes moves inside to DT. We are playing pretty much a 3-4 front, or a 4-3 odd front.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
                    yeah, Mike has all but locked up the left tackle spot this spring. This is our best OLine and OLine depth we've had under Tressel.

                    Heyward plays the left end and on passing downs sometimes moves inside to DT. We are playing pretty much a 3-4 front, or a 4-3 odd front.
                    Alright, so that will be a huge game for Clayborn to try and look good for scouts. If he can do well, it will look really impressive.

                    As for Heyward, that might be bad news for us. :( I would have loved to see him go up against Reiff not only to see how he can do, but also to see how well Reiff can do. Hopefully we can solidify our right side by then, because right now it'll be manned by guys who have maybe 2 games starting experience, and our whole interior might be questionable as well.

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                    • #11
                      I think Nathan Williams will be a pretty steep test for Reiff on the weakside. Kid is a monster. Our defensive coordinator says this is the best line ever at Ohio State (exaggerate much?). He coached the 2002 and 2009 lines which were amazing, so that is saying something.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JFLO View Post
                        A couple players that I would watch out for:

                        Seantrel Henderson OT USC 2014
                        The potential is definitely there for him to be one of the best offensive lineman that we've seen in years. I honestly thought he would have been better suited at a school like Notre Dame or Ohio State, but can't put the kid down for getting a full ride to a school like USC. Crazy athleticism and feet for a kid his age and size. He's only going to get better.

                        Vontaze Burfict LB Arizona State 2013
                        Burfict has the most potential of any linebacker in the nation right now and has the production to back it up. Whenever he decides to enter the draft, he'll be a Top 10 pick.

                        Agreed on Burfict. He and Lawrence Guy could end up as franchise-level anchors of a defense... unfortunately, that defense will reside at Arizona State, where nobody will notice.

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                        • #13
                          Rieff handled Heyward last year in our matchup with relative ease.

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                          • #14
                            Iowa's Oline pretty much kicked our butt last year except for at the very end of the game. Worthington stood out last year I suppose in that game. That was the only game I remember where neither Gibson nor Heyward had big games.

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                            • #15
                              Defensive Lineman:
                              Robert Quinn, UNC

                              Linebackers:
                              Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State
                              Manti Te'o, Notre Dame
                              Akeem Ayers, UCLA

                              Secondary:
                              Patrick Peterson, LSU

                              I feel like a couple of other guys could have made this list if it weren't for the talent around them. For example, I think Hightower makes a great impact but it won't be as noticeable as any of these other guys because of Marcell Dareus and Dre Kirkpatrick and Mark Barron and Kerry Murphy. But, if you put him on any of the other defenses then I think he would stand out 'Suh' like.
                              Last edited by tjsunstein; 04-29-2010, 12:26 PM.

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