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  • #16
    Originally posted by descendency View Post
    Don't be jealous that they would have 5 teams that outperformed the other conferences last year, in spite of not being given fair chances at bowls due to TV ratings.

    The SEC and the Big 12 are the only two conferences you could even argue that were better last year.
    A. I'm not jealous. I'm all for them getting an automatic bid and I think they are underrated and disrespected constantly.

    B. The idea that the MWC with Boise State and let's throw in Houston and Fresno State just to bolster them are still 4th at best in terms of conference strength behind the SEC, Big XII, and Big Ten. And if the Big Ten gets Notre Dame and Nebraska, suddenly it's the SEC and the Big Ten as #1 and #2.

    Boise State is a great program, but if they had to play a full schedule against the SEC, they'd get worn down by SEC Defensive Tackles, which is the entire reason they are the best conference in the country. Boise just doesn't have the size to match up week in and week out. When they are in a one game match up, it's an any given sunday situation, but that leads me into my third point.

    C. The Mountain West was 5-1 last year in Bowls? Somewhere around there. They earned it. No question. However, in a game like where Utah beat Alabama, there is a factor that cannot be ignored. When a mid major gets into a game like that, it's the Super Bowl for them. They are playing for their several conferences and it's the biggest game of their lives. When a team like Alabama or another big time program with big expectations every year ends up in a game like that, it's a dissapointment and at times, the play on the field looks like it. They just do not see the game the same way. This is not even up for debate. It's a reality. The team that wins, wins, but it's still a factor.

    D. How do TV ratings enter this discussion. First, the WAC I believe outperformed the Big East and ACC in TV ratings. Second, that would have no impact on how the teams play on the field. I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make there.

    The Mountain West with those teams would be a great conference, but the idea that you have them over the SEC is just outrageous and I'll take the Big XII and Big Ten over them.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by wonderbredd24 View Post
      They should bring Fresno State with them
      If they go, Fresno St. will stay & own the place. And if they go it will make Fresno St, San Jose St, etc. very happy indeed.

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      • #18
        Totally off topic but San Jose State does such a terrible job recruiting in the San Jose are. Like they could have it ON LOCK if they so choose to (along with the Monterey, Salinas, and Santa Cruz areas. It pisses me off. Just thought I would put that out there.


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        • #19
          Originally posted by LizardState View Post
          If they go, Fresno St. will stay & own the place. And if they go it will make Fresno St, San Jose St, etc. very happy indeed.
          The Mountain West, whether Boise State goes or not, is going to get an automatic bid for BCS games eventually and they will get more money. If Boise State does go, the MW is going to make huge money in TV sooner than later. The WAC without Boise State might as well be the MEAC or Sun Belt. Fresno State both from a competitive standpoint and a financial standpoint would benefit greatly from the move. And the MW would get into California for TV and for recruiting. Win, win

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wonderbredd24 View Post
            The Mountain West, whether Boise State goes or not, is going to get an automatic bid for BCS games eventually and they will get more money. If Boise State does go, the MW is going to make huge money in TV sooner than later. The WAC without Boise State might as well be the MEAC or Sun Belt. Fresno State both from a competitive standpoint and a financial standpoint would benefit greatly from the move. And the MW would get into California for TV and for recruiting. Win, win
            The Mountain West is already in California for tv and recruiting. They have San Diego State.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by diabsoule View Post
              The Mountain West is already in California for tv and recruiting. They have San Diego State.
              I guess... they kinda suck, but I'll refine that to Northern California

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              • #22
                If this really happens, then the MWC is about to become the third best conference in football.

                No joking.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RealityCheck View Post
                  If this really happens, then the MWC is about to become the third best conference in football.

                  No joking.
                  I'm assuming you have SEC and the Big XII as the top 2.

                  So easy to be down on the Big Ten but let's compare the top teams from each conference

                  Ohio State
                  Michigan
                  Penn State
                  Iowa

                  compared to...

                  Boise State
                  TCU
                  Utah
                  BYU

                  You're telling me you're taking the MW over the Big Ten? Seriously?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by YAYareaRB View Post
                    Totally off topic but San Jose State does such a terrible job recruiting in the San Jose are. Like they could have it ON LOCK if they so choose to (along with the Monterey, Salinas, and Santa Cruz areas. It pisses me off. Just thought I would put that out there.
                    Not to hijack the thread, but the SJ St. FB program is hanging on by its fingernails. It has to schedule national powers (open @ Alabama in September) & Pac 10 teams (opened at USC last yr) for the big paychecks to keep their other athletic programs floating. I sometimes think the NCAA rule allowing players to transfer & play immediately if their school drops FB or goes down an NCAA division level is the only thing keeping their roster intact.

                    There is a determined effort by SJSU faculty & others here in San Jose to eliminate FB, just too costly, & losing teams can't recruit as Yay pointed out. The whole Cal St. University system is is serious budget trouble, not rich like the UC system, & when professors get laid off they can't justify retaining the FB & other athletic coaches. So the Spartans FB team has to play these outmanned games, lose by 4-50 points/game, & collect the paycheck. But it's just a matter of time before they drop down Div. II or go the zero-sum route, just eliminate FB altogether, IDK what they'll do with the Jeff Garcia Sports Auditorium though....

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                    • #25
                      Yeah or DI-AA.


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                      • #26
                        Another team to think about if the Mountain West wants to expand to twelve outside of Houston and Fresno State is Nevada. Natural rival with UNLV as well a travel partner, solid football program, solid basketball program, larger endowment than Fresno State....

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                        • #27
                          Yeah they would be a good fit.


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by wonderbredd24 View Post
                            I disagree with that part sort of. Fresno State was a really interesting matchup with Boise State last year, because so many people don't buy that Boise State's defense could stop a big, power running team. Well, Fresno State brought Ryan Mathews and Lonyae Miller, who were both big, big backs at about 230lbs each and Mathews obviously very fast and Boise State won.

                            Pat Hill is good at adapting his offense to his talent and as a result, he can usually provide a good measuring stick for a team like Boise State and I think they'd do very well in the MW.

                            Yes Boise won the game in a shootout.... but their defense couldn't even come CLOSE to stopping Fresno's downhill rushing attack....

                            Fresno rushed for over 300 yards against them at an 8.2 YPC clip..... Hell, Ryan Mathews had 3 TD runs of over 60 yards...

                            If they played a team with a devastating downhill power rushing attack like that with a double-headed monster combined of two powerful, fast, explosive backs.....but could also play defense....

                            ...those cute little Boise fellas would be in for a world of hurt IMO....

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                            • #29
                              People keep saying that but those cute little Boise fellas keep coming up big.


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by YAYareaRB View Post
                                People keep saying that but those cute little Boise fellas keep coming up big.
                                Personally, I think Boise State is going to beat Virginia Tech unless the Hokies block a kick. Chris Peterson is one of the best in the business and with this much time to prepare for one game, I think he's going to come up big

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