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  • Originally posted by Brent View Post
    unnamed sources are the death of journalism
    I completely agree, this guy is just posting on a message board. But he tends to have a pretty good track record in terms of the Big Ten. He nailed then Nebraska pick up way before most ppl.

    But I'm still just taking it as a rumor of talks. Nothings supposed to happen for years anyway.

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    • Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
      Boston College to the B1G just doesn't make much sense in practice. You guys can do better....and they have very little in common with the vast majority of the B1G in terms of profile.
      I've always liked the idea of Boston College being the team to come in with Notre Dame. I dont know why but I think it'd be cool watching them play teams like Penn State, OSU, and Michigan on a consistent basis.

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      • Originally posted by Smooth Criminal View Post
        I've always liked the idea of Boston College being the team to come in with Notre Dame. I dont know why but I think it'd be cool watching them play teams like Penn State, OSU, and Michigan on a consistent basis.
        I'm a huge proponent of Notre Dame and Boston College to the Big Ten. It adds another rivalry to the Big Ten, which fits into the culture of the B1G, while expanding the conference's footprint and increasing the market area. Also, both schools are great academically which also fits into the B1G standard. Plus, I feel that BC has a somewhat B1G feel to them.

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        • I'm severely bias on this one but I feel Rutgers has more to offer the B1G than BC. Our potential is much greater.
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          • I'd rather have Boston College than Rutgers. BC definitely has a much higher Big Ten feel than Rutgers. Mostly to me because of their history.

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            • Originally posted by Smooth Criminal View Post
              I'd rather have Boston College than Rutgers. BC definitely has a much higher Big Ten feel than Rutgers. Mostly to me because of their history.
              But Rutgers has Snooki.

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              • Originally posted by Smooth Criminal View Post
                I'd rather have Boston College than Rutgers. BC definitely has a much higher Big Ten feel than Rutgers. Mostly to me because of their history.
                How is that possible? They're private and aren't a member of the AAU. Also, Rutgers is the birthplace of college football so that's something historic. Conferences are all about making money and Rutgers has the greater potential for that plus the academic qualifications that the B1G has.
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                • Not only is BC a religious school, it's a (gasp) Catholic school. That alone will keep it out of the Big Ten (assuming they would even want to join). That kept Notre Dame out of the Big Ten for a looong time, and while things have changed, it's primarily because Notre Dame brings lots of cash with it. Enough cash usually trumps prejudice in the long run.


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                  • Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                    Not only is BC a religious school, it's a (gasp) Catholic school. That alone will keep it out of the Big Ten (assuming they would even want to join). That kept Notre Dame out of the Big Ten for a looong time, and while things have changed, it's primarily because Notre Dame brings lots of cash with it. Enough cash usually trumps prejudice in the long run.
                    Not to mention their desire to maintain college football independence. That's why they didn't join in the early 90s and in 1999 when the board trustees voted down joining the Big Ten: Citing a "basic dissimilarity" between the University of Notre Dame and the 11 universities that make up the Big Ten athletic conference, Holy Cross Fr. Edward A. "Monk" Malloy said a Feb. 5 decision against joining the conference reaffirms the school's distinctive mission as Catholic, private and independent.

                    There was even discussion of Notre Dame joining in the late 1940s but Michigan State joined instead.

                    I know you're in B1G country and have more insight into their mentality than I do but the amount of money Notre Dame would bring would trump their private, Catholic status and with how important traditions and rivalries are to the B1G I would think they would want to bring in one of ND's rival and BC makes sense.

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                    • I don't see either of Notre Dame or Boston College going to the B1G anytime soon. Neither of them fit in with the big, public funded universities of the B1G. Only school they really have anything in common with it Northwestern. If Notre Dame really wanted to be in the B1G, they would have found a way in years ago. There's very little incentive for them to change that right now in the current climate...and even then it would be a toss up for them between B1G and the ACC.

                      As far as media markets stuff goes specifically for BC; people just flat out don't watch much college football here unfortunately. There's a lot of factors that go into that, mostly with how poorly BC has marketed itself and and just the general lack of interest in the rest of the ACC. Pitt and Cuse will probably help change that a little bit...as well as a possible head coaching change(happening sooner rather than later IMO. They have similar talent to when they were winning a few years back, if not more talent even...and they've just been awful), so I would think they would like to stick it out for another five years or so before doing anything drastic. They were one of the main parties involved driving up the ACC exit fee, with the only schools trying to leave thing more open being FSU and Maryland.

                      Culturally, they might fit in with the B1G pretty well and they do play a similar brand of football, but I just can't see either side going for it as things currently stand. If they got Notre Dame and tried to make a package deal I guess it's possible...just not very likely.

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                      • Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
                        How is that possible? They're private and aren't a member of the AAU. Also, Rutgers is the birthplace of college football so that's something historic. Conferences are all about making money and Rutgers has the greater potential for that plus the academic qualifications that the B1G has.
                        I understand the whole New York market leads to money thing and that's great and all, but I really don't care about how much money th Big Ten makes. The only think I'm worried about in expansion is getting better opponents for conference play.

                        Boston College feels like a Big Ten style team, while when I think of Rutgers I can't get images of their lack of success even in the terrible Big East out of my head.

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                        • Originally posted by Smooth Criminal View Post
                          I understand the whole New York market leads to money thing and that's great and all, but I really don't care about how much money th Big Ten makes. The only think I'm worried about in expansion is getting better opponents for conference play.

                          Boston College feels like a Big Ten style team, while when I think of Rutgers I can't get images of their lack of success even in the terrible Big East out of my head.
                          Absolutely is a valid point. If Rutgers had more success on the field I think we'd have already been scooped up by now. Again the potential is there for continued success in the future though. Besides last year we play Big Ten football as well. Pro style offense with a gritty defense. We need to win though and it's definitely what's holding us back.
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                          • Originally posted by diabsoule View Post
                            Not to mention their desire to maintain college football independence. That's why they didn't join in the early 90s and in 1999 when the board trustees voted down joining the Big Ten: Citing a "basic dissimilarity" between the University of Notre Dame and the 11 universities that make up the Big Ten athletic conference, Holy Cross Fr. Edward A. "Monk" Malloy said a Feb. 5 decision against joining the conference reaffirms the school's distinctive mission as Catholic, private and independent.

                            There was even discussion of Notre Dame joining in the late 1940s but Michigan State joined instead.

                            I know you're in B1G country and have more insight into their mentality than I do but the amount of money Notre Dame would bring would trump their private, Catholic status and with how important traditions and rivalries are to the B1G I would think they would want to bring in one of ND's rival and BC makes sense.
                            I'm just unconvinced that Boston College = Cash.


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                            • Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                              I'm just unconvinced that Boston College = Cash.
                              I think ideally the Big Ten would want Notre Dame, Maryland, Missouri and either Rutgers or Kansas. Boston College would be secondary but if Notre Dame pushed for BC I don't see it as a stretch for the B1G letting them in.

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                              • I think they'd give Notre Dame whatever they wanted in order to get them in the Big Ten, Notre Dame is absolute huge money for the Big Ten and I think they'd do anything to get their hands on it.

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