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    Tideís Dareus declared ineligible; Alabama appeals
    SportingNews staff reports Jul 21, 4:18 pm EDT

    Alabama defensive end Marcell Dareus has been declared ineligible by the NCAA, the Tuscaloosa News reports.

    Alabama will petition immediately to have Dareusí eligibility reinstated, according to the report. NCAA practice is to declare players ineligible when questions arise about whether they violated NCAA rules.

    Dareus is believed to be the only Tide player who attended a party hosted by an agent in Miami, the News reports. Alabama, with the SECís assistance, is investigating whether Dareus paid his own expenses for the trip, and whether the tripís circumstances make it an NCAA violation.

    NCAA athletes are not allowed to accept money of anything of value from agents or their representatives.

    The NCAA has talked to North Carolina defensive tackle Marvin Austin and South Carolina tight end Weslye Saunders about the party, whose host has not been revealed. Austinís alleged agent involvement is more serious than Dareusí, according to the report.

    Itís unknown whether Dareus will be allowed to practice with the Tide while his eligibility status is up in the air, according to the report. Tide receiver Julio Jones and running back Mark Ingram practiced during fall camp last year while eligibility issues unrelated to agent contact were settled, the News notes.

    A rising junior, Dareus made a name for himself during last seasonís BCS title game, in which he scored a touchdown and was named defensive MVP. He could be among the top picks in the 2011 NFL draft if he chooses to leave school a year early.

  • #2
    HA-HA.

    Why nothing happening for the other 2 guys?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
      HA-HA.

      Why nothing happening for the other 2 guys?
      I believe that Austin and Sanders are allowed to have contact with agents because they are 3 years removed from highschool. Of course they cannot receive benefits from them but that is still yet to be determined. If I read the regulations correctly, Dareus is prohibited from ANY contact with agents because of the 3-year rule.

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      • #4
        The NCAA is out of date and out of touch with reality. Foolish and ignorant old men who don't know how to construct a reasonable post-season nor do they understand that no matter what they try to do, a free college education simply isn't enough to keep kids these days satisfied. This isn't 197*******5 anymore.

        The NCAA is a big ******* joke, as is everything they've done recently. It's time for a lot of chance and new blood in their decision making.

        I'm not saying outright pay the kids, but if they're good enough to get marketing deals while in school or something like that, then I say let it be. They're not in this for the free schooling anymore...at least not the ones in the highest levels of the sport...and it's insane to try and force outdated and overly complex rules on the kids who make you Billions (with a ******* B) of dollars every year for basically nothing.

        **** you NCAA. Get your heads out of your asses and get with the times.

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        • #5
          The thing with kids getting those marketing deals then leads to unfair advantages for bigger schools as if it isn't already unfair. Then they'll go back to the good ole days, where teams didn't have a limit on number of scholarships, leaving the smaller guys with ****.

          The bigger the school, the more they are recognized, the better chance of getting paid.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
            The NCAA is out of date and out of touch with reality. Foolish and ignorant old men who don't know how to construct a reasonable post-season nor do they understand that no matter what they try to do, a free college education simply isn't enough to keep kids these days satisfied. This isn't 197*******5 anymore.

            The NCAA is a big ******* joke, as is everything they've done recently. It's time for a lot of chance and new blood in their decision making.

            I'm not saying outright pay the kids, but if they're good enough to get marketing deals while in school or something like that, then I say let it be. They're not in this for the free schooling anymore...at least not the ones in the highest levels of the sport...and it's insane to try and force outdated and overly complex rules on the kids who make you Billions (with a ******* B) of dollars every year for basically nothing.

            **** you NCAA. Get your heads out of your asses and get with the times.
            Those are the rules though BB. It doesn't matter if they're absurd or outdated. They are the rules. And you know Dareus knows what he's allowed and not allowed to do. He broke the rules, and now has to take responsibility. It sucks and maybe Bama can get a lesser punishment for him after an appeal, but we'll see.

            I'm not on the "Kids should get more than a free education" bandwagon. As a lot of these schools, a full-ride for 4-years could range as much $80,000 (many places even more - probably most places considering all the coaching and weight training these guys also get free). Plus, in my opinion, these kids are using the resources that collegiate process provides in order to get to the NFL. It's basically a 3-5 year tryout process, and while they're not making money now, these top players are increasing their money making potential exponentially. And like Bahraat said, being able to offer kids marketing deals and other benefits definitely unevens the playing field. Being the star QB at USC, Florida, Texas, etc. definitely opens itself up for better deals than most every other school in the country.
            Still Team The Ke$ha!!!

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            Originally posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
            Damn Ke$ha is sexy.

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            • #7
              If the NCAA claims that the spirit of these rules is in protecting the "student athletes" who put education first and whatnot...then I'm going to call them hypocrites.

              Yes, there absolutely are kids who are great at football AND want the full educational experience...but for most of the kids it seems, especially the stars who are basically just playing for free hoping not to get hurt until they cash in for real, the schooling is a joke. Take the minimum credits and easiest courses you can for 2.5 years, then jump to the NFL.

              I recall reading a TMQ article a while back where it basically talked about this exact thing. His suggestion? Make grades count towards BCS standings. If the NCAA still considers these kids "student athletes" first and foremost, then make schooling a part of the damn game.

              And as for the money aspect of all this.....even if they are getting the $80,000 you mention in your post TH, the NCAA is raking in Billions with a B riding these kids. I've actually heard before that at Penn State, every single sports program there loses money with the exception of football. Football pays for absolutely everything else and then some.

              I'm not even sure where I want to take this.....All I know is that the NCAA is full of idiots and hypocrites, and these rules need to start changing to get with the times. To exactly what? I'm not sure....Allow the kids to reap the rewards of their hard work, because at any moment, one kid who is making a school millions could destroy his knee or his back, or suffer a career-ending blow the head...and suddenly he gets nothing but an education he is probably wasting anyway.

              You could say then so be it..."he shouldn't waste that education then" but I have the feeling that most people here have been college students, are college students, or shortly will be college students, and you know damn well they aren't the world's greatest decision makers.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post


                I'm not even sure where I want to take this.....All I know is that the NCAA is full of idiots and hypocrites, and these rules need to start changing to get with the times. To exactly what? I'm not sure....Allow the kids to reap the rewards of their hard work, because at any moment, one kid who is making a school millions could destroy his knee or his back, or suffer a career-ending blow the head...and suddenly he gets nothing but an education he is probably wasting anyway.
                A friend of a friend of mine worked at the UM football team. Something menial on the sideline not on the coaching staff but he said when Michigan played their bowl game against Florida it was asically a month long vacation to florida. Paying the athletes is one of the worst things they could do. Most of them already find themselves above the law and better than other people already which leads to this type of behavior they are getting caught for now. Also see it developing in the pro's when they start whining about contracts. Its all good till the big guys get taken down. You think saban really would have cared if his guys did not get caught? Don't tailor the system around what works best for these guys. Make them work hard for something instead of pampering them.
                Sam Bradford will be a bust- 2/24/2010

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                • #9
                  Sucks for him.
                  Is it possible he's still a 1st rounder based strictly on potential without having playing a down of the 2010 season??

                  Might as well transfer to a D1AA school and get some game reps before the draft.
                  Sitting for a year at Alabama when he's ready to go pro in 2011 is going to bust a hole in his future bank account.

                  Dominate D1AA and get PAID.

                  These guys at the marque programs are too arrogant for their own good sometimes, IMHO.

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                  • #10
                    Ummm 1AA is still NCAA. Pretty sure he'd be suspended from all NCAA levels.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                      If the NCAA claims that the spirit of these rules is in protecting the "student athletes" who put education first and whatnot...then I'm going to call them hypocrites.

                      Yes, there absolutely are kids who are great at football AND want the full educational experience...but for most of the kids it seems, especially the stars who are basically just playing for free hoping not to get hurt until they cash in for real, the schooling is a joke. Take the minimum credits and easiest courses you can for 2.5 years, then jump to the NFL.

                      I recall reading a TMQ article a while back where it basically talked about this exact thing. His suggestion? Make grades count towards BCS standings. If the NCAA still considers these kids "student athletes" first and foremost, then make schooling a part of the damn game.

                      And as for the money aspect of all this.....even if they are getting the $80,000 you mention in your post TH, the NCAA is raking in Billions with a B riding these kids. I've actually heard before that at Penn State, every single sports program there loses money with the exception of football. Football pays for absolutely everything else and then some.

                      I'm not even sure where I want to take this.....All I know is that the NCAA is full of idiots and hypocrites, and these rules need to start changing to get with the times. To exactly what? I'm not sure....Allow the kids to reap the rewards of their hard work, because at any moment, one kid who is making a school millions could destroy his knee or his back, or suffer a career-ending blow the head...and suddenly he gets nothing but an education he is probably wasting anyway.

                      You could say then so be it..."he shouldn't waste that education then" but I have the feeling that most people here have been college students, are college students, or shortly will be college students, and you know damn well they aren't the world's greatest decision makers.
                      Every school has compliance telling these kids what they can and can't do every day of the freaking week.

                      As far as paying football players goes... if you pay football players, you have to pay every athlete under Title IX, so if you pay them, you are killing non revenue sports because schools won't want to pay them and find it cheaper to axe them to save money. And the vast majority of schools don't make money on football, so if your school doesn't, you're putting football on the chopping block as well making the rich schools even richer.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by iowatreat54 View Post
                        Ummm 1AA is still NCAA. Pretty sure he'd be suspended from all NCAA levels.
                        I love you, especially when you display your amazing common sense.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by iowatreat54 View Post
                          Ummm 1AA is still NCAA. Pretty sure he'd be suspended from all NCAA levels.
                          He'd need to go to the NAIA level, which has like no rules whatsoever

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                          • #14
                            UFL for a year?

                            -leaves before people complain

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RealityCheck View Post
                              UFL for a year?

                              -leaves before people complain
                              Although college football would throw a **** fit, I think the UFL should allow 18 year olds to play in their league (assuming they don't already) to give college kids a professional option as opposed to college until they can go into the draft or free agency or whatever.

                              If kids don't want to go to college, fine, let's give them a professional alternative to go to... if the UFL wants to be that alternative, it would be a huge boost to that league

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