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  • #31
    Originally posted by sbh15 View Post
    landry jones wasn't that good and lost his left tackle and best receiver... oklahoma is a top 25 team, they have no business in the top 10, though.
    What are you talking about? Williams wasnt that great at LT last year, Broyles is still there and Landry Jones was, indeed, good. He looked really bad against Nebraska (who didnt?) and struggled against Tech. Outside of those games, he looked pretty good for a guy who didnt come into the season with an offseason or preparation.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Brent View Post
      What are you talking about? Williams wasnt that great at LT last year, Broyles is still there and Landry Jones was, indeed, good. He looked really bad against Nebraska (who didnt?) and struggled against Tech. Outside of those games, he looked pretty good for a guy who didnt come into the season with an offseason or preparation.
      gresham? i guess he didn't have him last year, but i was speaking more about the team as a whole. anyway, i agree they'll be pretty well off, but top ten? c'mon.

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      • #33
        USC subtracted from the top 10 boosted a lot of teams up. If they had avoided the NCAA sanctions they would be no worse than #6 or 7 & wouldn't have lost all those transfer players. Now that they're ineligible the whole Pac 10 is wide open for the 1st time in a long while, Oregon Quackers still the favorite at this time.

        Early tests will be Boise St. vs. Va. Tech & Miami going to Ohio St. on 9-11, 2 of those will drop out of the top 5 by the 3rd wk in September.

        Alabama & Ohio St. have the 2 best, most experienced o-lines in the country, ranked nos. 1 & 2. Yeah, those facts are related.

        The Buckeyes don't have a USC or Texas to undermine their season this yr, get past a hungry Miami team with their hotshot QB early & they could run the table.

        Bama has that brutal SEC schedule & have to go to Tennessee, Arkansas & LSU, but thankfully have Penn St. & Florida at home. The Tide's best asset there is having the best QB in the conference not named Mallett, the best set of RBs in the country & more offensive experience than their opponents. If Mallett can tear up the Tide's freshman corners when the Razorbacks are at home watch out for Arkansas, that W could clear the path to the Atlanta SEC CG matchup with probably Florida with all that Urban Meyer young talent & team speed. On the other hand no defense on their schedule -- both Florida & Penn St. have defenses gutted by graduation -- will be able to hang with the Bama offense, stop both Richardson & Ingram if that's possible, then there's Julio & the passing game with receivers in single coverage, Saban will give DCs fits all season.

        Teams that could fall fast: UNC if the NCAA drops the hammer, Michigan if upset early by UConn & Rodriguez in for a long season.

        Teams rising fast: Stanford, b/c Harbaugh has been talking up winning the Pac 10 Soon to Be 12 & the Luck to Owusu combination will light up scoreboards, Iowa with Stanzi & an NFL-quality DT who can dominate whole games like Suh did, Arkansas as mentioned, & Suh's alma mater Nebraska who are still stinging from that 1-point squeaker win Texas managed last December & favored to take the Big 12 North.
        Last edited by LizardState; 08-07-2010, 11:04 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LizardState View Post
          Alabama & Ohio St. have the 2 best, most experienced o-lines in the country, ranked nos. 1 & 2. Yeah, those facts are related.

          Bama has that brutal SEC schedule & have to go to Tennessee, Arkansas & LSU, but thankfully have Penn St. & Florida at home. The Tide's best asset there is having the best QB in the conference not named Mallett, the best set of RBs in the country & more offensive experience than their opponents. If Mallett can tear up the Tide's freshman corners when the Razorbacks are at home watch out for Arkansas, that W could clear the path to the Atlanta SEC CG matchup with probably Florida with all that Urban Meyer young talent & team speed.
          i disagree (sort of) with the bolded statements... how about florida's line? returned every starter on an offensive line that was already one of the best in the nation. didn't the tide lose their best run blocking guard? anyway, you could probably just say the three best lines go to the top three teams.

          obviously there's no real argument i have that brantley is better than mcelroy, but i think that the stats will do the talking at the end of the year. that's more of a prediction, though.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by sbh15 View Post
            i disagree (sort of) with the bolded statements... how about florida's line? returned every starter on an offensive line that was already one of the best in the nation. didn't the tide lose their best run blocking guard? anyway, you could probably just say the three best lines go to the top three teams.

            obviously there's no real argument i have that brantley is better than mcelroy, but i think that the stats will do the talking at the end of the year. that's more of a prediction, though.
            Yeah you're right, Florida didn't retain everybody on their OL, they lost a Pouncey but they still have another Pouncey brother starting. Alabama lost only their RT from their front 5 & will replace him with freshman D.J. Fluker who was a top 5-ranked recruit, 6-4, 340 at age 18, so I would put those 2 OLs at about equal. Ohio St. has 3 juniors & 2 seniors back on their front 5, all about 300 or >300 lbs, they're bigger & the best OL in the country. Again with their schedule they have the easiest path to the NC game in the top 5 since Va. Tech or Boise St. will knock one of them off

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            • #36
              I'd be willing to say Wisconsin's OL is better and more experienced than Alabama's and OSU's. It was the best in the Big Ten last year easily, and everyone is coming back. Even though I don't think Carimi is that great, their OL still is ridiculous.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by LizardState View Post
                Alabama & Ohio St. have the 2 best, most experienced o-lines in the country, ranked nos. 1 & 2. Yeah, those facts are related.
                Ohio State's offensive line is nowhere near the top two in the country. They're not even the best OL in the conference. While they have a strong interior presence, their tackles left A LOT to be desired last year.

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                • #38
                  OSU's OL

                  39th nationally in yards per carry
                  19th nationally in rushing yards per game
                  56th nationally in sacks allowed
                  88th nationally in negative plays allowed

                  We have very, VERY different definitions of best OL.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Smooth Criminal View Post
                    Still a new QB. Bradford was clearly the starter last season.
                    Sam started 3 games last year, and only played one complete game. He was clearly not the starter.

                    Originally posted by Smooth Criminal View Post
                    Who said it meant nothing? But coming into a season as the starting QB is alot more pressure than what he did last year.

                    I still think last year's preseason Oklahoma team would beat this years. Thats all that was said. Not that they're terrible this year or anything like that.
                    Coming into a season as the starting QB is more pressure then starting when you were #2 on the depth chart, following an injured Heisman winning QB? That makes no sense.

                    Originally posted by sbh15 View Post
                    landry jones wasn't that good and lost his left tackle and best receiver... oklahoma is a top 25 team, they have no business in the top 10, though.
                    He never played with Gresham. Our receiving core was absolutely terrible last year, outside of Ryan Broyles. Despite this, all the games were close other than TT.
                    Last edited by nrk; 08-07-2010, 05:22 PM.

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                    • #40
                      If you don't think there is more pressure on Jones this year than last year you're out of your mind. Its his team this year. Last year was supposed to be Bradford's team, and when he inherited it expectations came way down. This year he's the man on a top 10 team, thats alot of pressure.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Smooth Criminal View Post
                        If you don't think there is more pressure on Jones this year than last year you're out of your mind. Its his team this year. Last year was supposed to be Bradford's team, and when he inherited it expectations came way down. This year he's the man on a top 10 team, thats alot of pressure.
                        We are returning 9 starters on offense. Despite what you may think, he did start last season. He's had the majority of last season with this team along with an offseason with them. Sure the expectations will be higher, but he will be calmer and more experienced which I think reduces his pressure.

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                        • #42
                          Definitely no pressure coming in mid-game as the back up replacing the heisman winner.

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                          • #43
                            The expectations and pressure are definately higher this season than last for him. As soon as Bradford went down, so did the expectations for that team.

                            I think they're overrated. I highly doubt Oklahoma finishes in the top 10. They look pretty similar to the team from last year, some I'm expecting something like 8-4 for the season.
                            Last edited by Smooth Criminal; 08-08-2010, 11:21 PM.

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                            • #44
                              AP Top 25

                              RK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS

                              1 Alabama (54) 0-0 1491 1
                              2 Ohio State (3) 0-0 1400 5
                              3 Boise State (1) 0-0 1336 4
                              4 Florida 0-0 1237 3
                              5 Texas (1) 0-0 1223 2
                              6 TCU 0-0 1160 6
                              7 Oklahoma (1) 0-0 1104 NR
                              8 Nebraska 0-0 1033 14
                              9 Iowa 0-0 1007 7
                              10 Virginia Tech 0-0 973 10
                              11 Oregon 0-0 870 11
                              12 Wisconsin 0-0 822 16
                              13 Miami (FL) 0-0 785 19
                              14 USC 0-0 590 22
                              15 Pittsburgh 0-0 516 15
                              16 Georgia Tech 0-0 511 13
                              17 Arkansas 0-0 496 NR
                              18 North Carolina 0-0 397 NR
                              19 Penn State 0-0 382 9
                              20 Florida State 0-0 379 NR
                              21 LSU 0-0 300 17
                              22 Auburn 0-0 296 NR
                              23 Georgia 0-0 206 NR
                              24 Oregon State 0-0 198 NR
                              25 West Virginia 0-0 184 25

                              Others receiving votes: Cincinnati 108, Stanford 81, Utah 80, South Carolina 71, Houston 66, Connecticut 32, Notre Dame 31, Missouri 27, Brigham Young 19, Arizona 15, Clemson 15, Texas Tech 14, Navy 12, Washington 8, Texas A&M 7, Mississippi 6, Oklahoma State 3, Middle Tennessee 2, Central Michigan 2, Temple 2, UCF 1, Boston College 1, Southern Methodist 1

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Forenci View Post
                                UConn got 40 points? Sweet.
                                They're a chic pic to win the Big East. November 11 could be HUGE.

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