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  • #16
    Originally posted by MassNole View Post
    Okay so say you fire him now and it turns out he was restraining her from leaving while intoxicated with his children. A situation in which reasonable force would be allowed under the law. However under the borderline unconstitutional laws of most states (of which I am too lazy to check Indiana law) require the police to detain him upon the facts shown. She cries abuse, he gets arrested on the spot even if there was a good explanation. So because of the appearance of wrong doing Pitt should fire the man, basically permanently tarnish his chances for future employment, and set back their program much the way Notre Dame did with their overreaction to George O'Leary.

    I guess I am the only who remembers one is innocent until proven guilty. Then again I am a criminal defense/divorce attorney so maybe my experience in these situations as tainted me.
    I'm not saying lock the guy up and throw away the key, but if I was the AD at the University of Pittsburgh something like this would make me believe his position had become untenable because of the nature of the accusations.

    I strongly doubt he will lose his job over this, but it's going to make recruiting a lot more difficult and won't exactly endear him to the Pitt fans. If he stays on, which I presume he will, something tells me he'll be on a lot shorter leash than most first year HCs.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by CameronCropper View Post
      I'm not saying lock the guy up and throw away the key, but if I was the AD at the University of Pittsburgh something like this would make me believe his position had become untenable because of the nature of the accusations.

      I strongly doubt he will lose his job over this, but it's going to make recruiting a lot more difficult and won't exactly endear him to the Pitt fans. If he stays on, which I presume he will, something tells me he'll be on a lot shorter leash than most first year HCs.

      one of the biggest reasons he was hired was for his character...just sayin

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
        He put his hands on a woman to the point where she was marked from it. Not a good example to be setting for the players no matter what team of year it is.
        Maybe he has something in common with his players now. They can all laugh and joke say "you had to put your ***** in line too?"
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        • #19
          ""Police say there was a custody issue and the woman attempted to leave. As she left, police say a physical altercation broke out. The woman told police Haywood grabbed her by the arm and neck and pushed her. According to the police report, the woman had red marks on her neck, arms and back."
          For that they hold him without bail in Indiana? just announced no bail on Sportscenter.

          Well, this is the state that let Dillinger escape -- twice. And sent Mike Tyson to the state pen for 2 yrs on a bogus beauty contest judge sex with contestant rape charge....

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          • #20
            Alot of panic in the Burgh about this. Many believe that this incident will be the same as "the death-penalty" as it affects recruits. Nearly every 2011 recruit had decommitted PRIOR to this incident and now it seems likely the rest will leave as well.

            There are even the presence of people wanting Haywood to be fired immediatedly and AD Steve Pederson to tender his resignation.

            This has been one of the worst organizational changes in football that I can remember.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by MassNole View Post
              So a heated exchange involving custody over the holidays. People make mistakes and it is sad so many are ready to lynch the man's career. This isn't a situation like say Lawrence Phillips where he dragged her down a flight of stairs. From the sounds of the police report it sounds like an over reaction to an emotional situation. As for leaving marks, some people bruise extremely easily not to mention a lot of other reasons that would increase bruising, such as alcohol intoxication.
              Are you ******* serious? Are you really trying to justify this **** by saying "well, tensions are high! it's the holiday! some people bruise easily!"?

              He's still responsible for his actions. Not to mention no one is saying to fire him right NOW, but I'm sure if the allegations turn out to be true it would be very reasonable to fire him if the university so desired.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Forenci View Post
                Are you ******* serious? Are you really trying to justify this **** by saying "well, tensions are high! it's the holiday! some people bruise easily!"?

                He's still responsible for his actions. Not to mention no one is saying to fire him right NOW, but I'm sure if the allegations turn out to be true it would be very reasonable to fire him if the university so desired.
                Do we really know anything about the case? Could she have been hitting him and he was holding her so she couldn't? Many police officers will arrest the man, regardless of who is at fault. Especially if it is a state where someone MUST get arrested on any domestic disturbance call.

                How about we let the facts come out before crucifying the guy.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                  Do we really know anything about the case? Could she have been hitting him and he was holding her so she couldn't? Many police officers will arrest the man, regardless of who is at fault. Especially if it is a state where someone MUST get arrested on any domestic disturbance call.

                  How about we let the facts come out before crucifying the guy.

                  This isn't just directed at you.
                  I'm not trying to crucify the guy, I'm merely pointing out MassNoles excuses were horridly bad and that there is no excuse for any kind of domestic violence, whether it because by a man or woman.

                  He is innocent until proven guilty, but MassNoles was trying to say that even if he did commit domestic violence it shouldn't be frowned upon as much because it's the holidays, or because some people bruise easier..
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                  • #24
                    I think he has to be fired. Scrapping him and starting over won't cost them too much, and he was hired because he was considered a high character guy. This kind of thing will definitely effect his recruiting.

                    Pittsburgh radio didn't have a single call supporting keeping him today. Most wanted the AD fired too. According to the reports he punched, pushed, and held he in a choke hold.

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                    • #25
                      Affect is the verb, effect is the noun.


                      Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                        Affect is the verb, effect is the noun.
                        Always hated those two.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Forenci View Post
                          He is innocent until proven guilty, but MassNoles was trying to say that even if he did commit domestic violence it shouldn't be frowned upon as much because it's the holidays, or because some people bruise easier..
                          The bruise easier one can be a legitimate excuse. If he grabbed her to keep her from hitting him and she bruises easy, that is completely different than grabbing her and throwing her around.

                          Domestic disturbances are rarely black and white, and to treat them as black and white is what causes the man to end up in jail every time.
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                          • #28
                            "The University of Pittsburgh is aware of an alleged incident involving head football coach Michael Haywood today in South Bend, Indiana," the school said in an e-mailed statement. "The University expects the highest standards of conduct from its employees, including its coaches, and any breach of those standards is a very serious matter. The University will decline further comment until more complete information is available."

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                            • #29
                              Pitt chancelor: "After careful consideration of recent events, Pitt has dismissed Michael Haywood as football coach, effective immediately:

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                              • #30
                                Definitely the right move. As the coach and leader of the team you have to set an example.


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