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  • #76
    Originally posted by Jonathan_VIlma
    People also underrate the fact, that we may be the deepest team in college football at receiver. We have six guys that can legitimatley make plays.

    Jemalle Cornelius
    Cornelius Ingram
    Percy Harvin (duel threat)
    Dallas Baker
    Andre Caldwell
    Kestahn Moore (out of the backfield)
    Tate Casey (in the redzone)
    Whos going to throw it to them?

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    • #77
      Not to be a homer, but I would bet that Ohio State has deeper WRs than Florida :)


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      • #78
        Michigan fans are more bitter than I originally expected...

        1) You got your chance, you didn't capitalize, period. Can anyone tell me the last time, in the history of college football, that a team lost, and didn't drop? Michigan got far too much credit for keeping that game close, when in fact they scored a late TD to make the game close. Had the Buckeyes not turned the ball over left and right, the game wouldn't of even been close.

        2) Florida's resume is far more impressive, and those that like to rag on Florida's close wins... well, Michigan didn't exactly light up teams like Minnesota, Iowa, Northwestern, Penn State, and Ball State, who is terrible. South Carolina could, arguably, beat all of those teams.

        3) Florida beat 10 bowl teams, Michigan beat 6. Florida played the toughest SOS in the country, Michigan, third. Florida won the best conference in America, Michigan didn't even win theirs (a weak, and down Big 10). Florida's wins over LSU, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Georgia are far more impressive than anything Michigan can muster up. The Wolvies beat one good team, and even that's debatable, as I bet 4-5 SEC teams could beat Notre Dame and their insanely overhyped coach.

        I mean, seriously, why should Michigan get two chances at Ohio State, while Florida gets none? Regardless of what your opinion is on who would win a matchup between Florida and Michigan, there's no actual proof the Wolverines would win. If Michigan went out there and got embarrassed by Ohio State in the rematch, the BCS would never hear the end of it for not giving Florida a chance.

        Until college football gets a playoff (which will, unfortunately, never happen), there's is no true way to determine a champion. All we can do is guess and speculate.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by killa3312
          Michigan fans are more bitter than I originally expected...

          1) You got your chance, you didn't capitalize, period. Can anyone tell me the last time, in the history of college football, that a team lost, and didn't drop? Michigan got far too much credit for keeping that game close, when in fact they scored a late TD to make the game close. Had the Buckeyes not turned the ball over left and right, the game wouldn't of even been close.

          2) Florida's resume is far more impressive, and those that like to rag on Florida's close wins... well, Michigan didn't exactly light up teams like Minnesota, Iowa, Northwestern, Penn State, and Ball State, who is terrible. South Carolina could, arguably, beat all of those teams.

          3) Florida beat 10 bowl teams, Michigan beat 6. Florida played the toughest SOS in the country, Michigan, third. Florida won the best conference in America, Michigan didn't even win theirs (a weak, and down Big 10). Florida's wins over LSU, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Georgia are far more impressive than anything Michigan can muster up. The Wolvies beat one good team, and even that's debatable, as I bet 4-5 SEC teams could beat Notre Dame and their insanely overhyped coach.

          I mean, seriously, why should Michigan get two chances at Ohio State, while Florida gets none? Regardless of what your opinion is on who would win a matchup between Florida and Michigan, there's no actual proof the Wolverines would win. If Michigan went out there and got embarrassed by Ohio State in the rematch, the BCS would never hear the end of it for not giving Florida a chance.

          Until college football gets a playoff (which will, unfortunately, never happen), there's is no true way to determine a champion. All we can do is guess and speculate.
          1. 2004 NC when Oklahoma lost its last game, and conference, but still went.

          2. Michigan easily handled all those teams, don't even compare them. Florida stumbled all over the place and needed miracles. Michigan handley dominated every team they played outside of tOSU, yes that include Ball State.

          3. Some computer polls claim that Michigan had a harder schedule actually, and I even saw Florida's at #19. The other points were covered in #2, so this is pretty much the same claim.

          There is no rule against getting a second chance or not winning your conference... Michigan is considered the #2 team in the nation so they should get the chance. And what do you do if Florida gets destroyed by tOSU and Michigan beats USC? Then you still have a debate on your hands.

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          • #80
            The NC game should be the best two college football teams playing against each other. In my opinion, Michigan is better then Florida. However, while I am sure a majority of the country feels this way, we can't really know unless Florida and Michigan played against each other. While this will not happen, I'm not so sure many Florida fans would be eager to do this.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by snuff
              Originally posted by killa3312
              Michigan fans are more bitter than I originally expected...

              1) You got your chance, you didn't capitalize, period. Can anyone tell me the last time, in the history of college football, that a team lost, and didn't drop? Michigan got far too much credit for keeping that game close, when in fact they scored a late TD to make the game close. Had the Buckeyes not turned the ball over left and right, the game wouldn't of even been close.

              2) Florida's resume is far more impressive, and those that like to rag on Florida's close wins... well, Michigan didn't exactly light up teams like Minnesota, Iowa, Northwestern, Penn State, and Ball State, who is terrible. South Carolina could, arguably, beat all of those teams.

              3) Florida beat 10 bowl teams, Michigan beat 6. Florida played the toughest SOS in the country, Michigan, third. Florida won the best conference in America, Michigan didn't even win theirs (a weak, and down Big 10). Florida's wins over LSU, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Georgia are far more impressive than anything Michigan can muster up. The Wolvies beat one good team, and even that's debatable, as I bet 4-5 SEC teams could beat Notre Dame and their insanely overhyped coach.

              I mean, seriously, why should Michigan get two chances at Ohio State, while Florida gets none? Regardless of what your opinion is on who would win a matchup between Florida and Michigan, there's no actual proof the Wolverines would win. If Michigan went out there and got embarrassed by Ohio State in the rematch, the BCS would never hear the end of it for not giving Florida a chance.

              Until college football gets a playoff (which will, unfortunately, never happen), there's is no true way to determine a champion. All we can do is guess and speculate.
              1. 2004 NC when Oklahoma lost its last game, and conference, but still went.

              2. Michigan easily handled all those teams, don't even compare them. Florida stumbled all over the place and needed miracles. Michigan handley dominated every team they played outside of tOSU, yes that include Ball State.

              3. Some computer polls claim that Michigan had a harder schedule actually, and I even saw Florida's at #19. The other points were covered in #2, so this is pretty much the same claim.

              There is no rule against getting a second chance or not winning your conference... Michigan is considered the #2 team in the nation so they should get the chance. And what do you do if Florida gets destroyed by tOSU and Michigan beats USC? Then you still have a debate on your hands.
              I agree with all your points except the end (and the schedule part, but whatev). I may be misinterpreting your statement. Will there a question of who is #2 or who is #1? If OSU crushes Florida and Michigan beats USC, no debate. OSU beat Michigan AND Florida. Plus, Michigan likely would end the season as #2. Basically, if OSU beats Florida by more than 3, and Michigan beats USC, UM will end up #2.


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              • #82
                The national championship was November 18 and Michigan lost. Now Florida gets a shot. If you Michigan fans want a NC, then you should've beaten Ohio State. You didn't, so enjoy the Rose Bowl.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by keylime_5
                  The national championship was November 18 and Michigan lost. Now Florida gets a shot. If you Michigan fans want a NC, then you should've beaten Ohio State. You didn't, so enjoy the Rose Bowl.
                  Thanks for adding to this conversation.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by JBond93

                    I agree with all your points except the end (and the schedule part, but whatev). I may be misinterpreting your statement. Will there a question of who is #2 or who is #1? If OSU crushes Florida and Michigan beats USC, no debate. OSU beat Michigan AND Florida. Plus, Michigan likely would end the season as #2. Basically, if OSU beats Florida by more than 3, and Michigan beats USC, UM will end up #2.
                    No, defiantly not what I was saying. I was saying people would just add more ammo to the argument that Michigan should of been playing tOSU.

                    2004 Michigan lost to USC and stayed also.

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                    • #85
                      The point is, Michigan had its chance, now it's Florida's turn. Whether they get blown out or not is irrelevant. There will never be, 100% factual evidence, in any season, who the best team is. Until a playoff is implimented, we're left speculating. Unfortunately, because of the political nature of Bowl games, and the large chunks of cash they haul in, the NCAA will never go to a playoff, at least not in my lifetime.

                      And yes, Michigan did struggle in some of those games. Ball State came within 5 yards from possibly sending the game into OT... that's struggling. Beating Northwestern 17-3, one of the worst teams in Div 1-A football, is struggling when you're suppose to be a top 2 team. The Big 10 was flat our horrid this season, and the only somewhat impressive win Michigan has is Notre Dame, who is highly overrated. Wisconsin can go as an impressive win too, although it's unknown how good they really are since their OOC schedule stunk and the Big 10 was so awful.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by snuff
                        Originally posted by JBond93

                        I agree with all your points except the end (and the schedule part, but whatev). I may be misinterpreting your statement. Will there a question of who is #2 or who is #1? If OSU crushes Florida and Michigan beats USC, no debate. OSU beat Michigan AND Florida. Plus, Michigan likely would end the season as #2. Basically, if OSU beats Florida by more than 3, and Michigan beats USC, UM will end up #2.
                        No, defiantly not what I was saying. I was saying people would just add more ammo to the argument that Michigan should of been playing tOSU.

                        2004 Michigan lost to USC and stayed also.
                        My bad then. While I was typing it, I thought I may have been misinterpreting.


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                        • #87
                          As a Michigan fan, what pisses me off is Michigan was #2 on 11-18, and then they were hopped on 11-25 by USC and then people said it would be USC-Ohio St. unless USC got upset by UCLA, and then that happened. And then people said if UCLA beat USC, Michigan will play in the NC. What happened to change their mind? While Michigan was watching games, Florida was playing, so people got to see that. And then, few of the humans put Michigan #4, which ****** up the vote. They are at least #3, and then 1 of them even picked Florida #1, silly bastards. Once again, nothing against Florida, the system is screwy.

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                          • #88
                            What if UF beats OSU and UM crushes USC

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by yodachu
                              As a Michigan fan, what pisses me off is Michigan was #2 on 11-18, and then they were hopped on 11-25 by USC and then people said it would be USC-Ohio St. unless USC got upset by UCLA, and then that happened. And then people said if UCLA beat USC, Michigan will play in the NC. What happened to change their mind? While Michigan was watching games, Florida was playing, so people got to see that. And then, few of the humans put Michigan #4, which *********** up the vote. They are at least #3, and then 1 of them even picked Florida #1, silly bastards. Once again, nothing against Florida, the system is screwy.
                              Another thing for Michigan fans to chew on. What if USC would have won? Would Florida have jumped Michigan then? Nope, not even close. UM would have been #3. How does USC losing change who the 2nd best team is?


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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by yodachu
                                As a Michigan fan, what pisses me off is Michigan was #2 on 11-18, and then they were hopped on 11-25 by USC and then people said it would be USC-Ohio St. unless USC got upset by UCLA, and then that happened. And then people said if UCLA beat USC, Michigan will play in the NC. What happened to change their mind? While Michigan was watching games, Florida was playing, so people got to see that. And then, few of the humans put Michigan #4, which *********** up the vote. They are at least #3, and then 1 of them even picked Florida #1, silly bastards. Once again, nothing against Florida, the system is screwy.
                                A few put Florida #5 though.

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