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  • Best unknown recruit in the country.

    Jordan Todman
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHjUjGDulKM

  • #2
    He actually doesn't impress me very much. Nothing special outside of some speed.

    He's tiny for a RB. He looks like half the size of everyone on the field and it's not like he plays the best competition in Massacusetts. He's listed at 5'10 185pounds but his frame looks much smaller then that and I don't see where he's got room to add much more bulk. even if he manages to gain 10 pounds. 195 pound runningbacks will get lit up in the ACC.

    Lorenzo Booker had tons and I mean tons more talent then Todman and he had to split carries with Leon Washington and Antonie Smith because he couldn't handle the load. And he was basically an outisde runner and caught screen passes because he didn't have the bulk to run between the tackles. Booker is about the same size as Todman.

    Todman runs way too high and will be beat up doing that for a guy his size at the next level. You have to be a big guy like Adrian Peterson or Brandon Jacobs to get away with a high running style. Todman just can't do that.

    He's has some nice moves here and there but also seems to get a little stiff at times when he gets into spaces that are too confined.

    That only real thing that stick out to me is his speed. Everything about the kid is less then impressive except for the fact that he runs by guys. Rivals lists his speed as 4.45 which is good but it's not gonna get you to run by guys at the college level.

    I don't think the kid is underrated at all. He looks to me exactly what he is rated. He is a 2 star prospect in my eyes. Nice highlights but no size, and horrible technique. He makes plays in HS based on just speed. That in my eyes translates to trouble at the next level.

    He seems like a KR to me. Nothing more. Maybe if he does alot of work on routes and hands he could turn into a decent 4th WR?

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    • #3
      Very well written out post, most on here would say "he sucks" and that would be the end of it.

      That said, I think you're wrong.

      He is 5'10'' 185 per his guardian. He's going to UConn so the ACC doesn't really matter.

      One thing about 40 times that you need to learn is that the listed times are crap unless it's run at a Combine. There's not many players at the NFL combine that break 4.45 and JT was timed at a Combine at 4.43 so he's plenty fast enough for any conference. I don't think he relies on his speed at all, he was making all kinds of runs. The guys that rely on their speed try to break every run to the outside *cough* Michael Shaw *cough*.

      Oh and I never used the word underrated one time, I said unknown. Now I'll say he's underrated. If a rankings guy watches his SR film, I'll predict he gets bumped to a 4*. Stephfon Green (PSU tFR) was also a 2* out of high school because nobody ever got around to his film. Bob L. said he would've been a high 4* if he got his film in time.

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      • #4
        He looks decent. Not the most unknown. I played on a 3 time Super Bowl Winning team in Mass, not the best competition. Will be interesting how he develops body wise and to see if he can do well against bigger faster comp.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by reigle9 View Post
          Very well written out post, most on here would say "he sucks" and that would be the end of it.

          That said, I think you're wrong.

          He is 5'10'' 185 per his guardian. He's going to UConn so the ACC doesn't really matter.

          One thing about 40 times that you need to learn is that the listed times are crap unless it's run at a Combine. There's not many players at the NFL combine that break 4.45 and JT was timed at a Combine at 4.43 so he's plenty fast enough for any conference. I don't think he relies on his speed at all, he was making all kinds of runs. The guys that rely on their speed try to break every run to the outside *cough* Michael Shaw *cough*.

          Oh and I never used the word underrated one time, I said unknown. Now I'll say he's underrated. If a rankings guy watches his SR film, I'll predict he gets bumped to a 4*. Stephfon Green (PSU tFR) was also a 2* out of high school because nobody ever got around to his film. Bob L. said he would've been a high 4* if he got his film in time.
          My bad about the ACC. Thought I read he was going to Boston College. Still the Big East has been a good conference of late and will be tough on him as well.

          4.43 is a fine time but 4.43 is a Massacusetts high school is alot different then a 4.43 in the Big East. He's not lacking speed but neither will the guys around him.

          I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on whether he relies on speed or not. Yea he did break out different types of runs but his most impressive clips where when he breaks outside or gets good blocking and hits the 2nd level with open field. The only real good part of his game was getting by guys in the open field. I just don't see much technique at all, and when he runs inside he doesn't shy away from contact which is usually a good thing. However, with his small size, he's not gonna be breaking arms tackles in college on those inside runs. Those college LBs are gonna wrap him up inside and bring him down instead of him breaking those arms tackles like he does in his high school clips. I mean there's even a clip of him straight running over a guy at the 1:48 mark or so. Do you really think stuff like that is gonna work for a guy that small at the next level?

          I just don't see if. Maybe if he bulks up and learns to run alot lower he can be a good change of pace guy and home run threat but I just don't see him being able to have much of an impact unless he seriously bulks up and does alot of learning on his technique and running style. And with his frame I just don't see the room to add much weight.

          I just don't see the tools there for him to excell at the next level. I mean in recruits you usually look at technique, speed, size as the 1st three general points and then go from there. Well he's seriously lacking in 2 of the 3 areas and I don't know how much room there is for improvement in those 2. It's very hard to completely change a running style and there's not much you can do about a small frame.

          He does seem to have decent vision although that's very hard to judge from HS clips and he changes direction fairly well. He has some ok qualities but I just don't know if I see enough in him to think he's anything more then a 2* prospect and KR/Change of Pace guy at best in college.

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          • #6
            He's going to UConn? Sweet!

            We don't really have that type of running back here at UConn. Donald Brown has some decent speed, but certainly nothing like Todman has from what I can see. Dixon is just a power back for us basically, so this guy could easily see some playing time as a freshman as a change of pace back. Certainly he could replace Larry Taylor for KR/PR duties.

            UConn has some good coaches so hopefully we can develop him a bit and take advantage of his speed. We've had a knack for finding good RB's this past few years.

            I think he has some potential in terms of talent. We shall see I suppose.
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            • #7
              A few months ago I would've said Jordan Jefferson, but Rivals caught on to him.

              I'm quite excited about him..hes got a bit of an awkward thowing motion, but a big arm and he moves very well.

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              • #8
                Kevin Green is another sleeper. Dominated his competition in Tally, and is a 3* going to Purdue. Has legit 4.3 speed, and can juke the crap out of you. Also plays soccer with his HS team, I thought that was interesting. He's gonna be real good at Purdue.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TigerBait45 View Post
                  A few months ago I would've said Jordan Jefferson, but Rivals caught on to him.

                  I'm quite excited about him..hes got a bit of an awkward thowing motion, but a big arm and he moves very well.
                  Beat me to it.

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                  • #10
                    Most underrated: Daymond Patterson



                    sig by BoneKrusher

                    Originally posted by BuckNaked
                    Ok I'd almost rather spank my meat with sandpaper at this point.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
                      My bad about the ACC. Thought I read he was going to Boston College. Still the Big East has been a good conference of late and will be tough on him as well.

                      4.43 is a fine time but 4.43 is a Massacusetts high school is alot different then a 4.43 in the Big East. He's not lacking speed but neither will the guys around him.

                      I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on whether he relies on speed or not. Yea he did break out different types of runs but his most impressive clips where when he breaks outside or gets good blocking and hits the 2nd level with open field. The only real good part of his game was getting by guys in the open field. I just don't see much technique at all, and when he runs inside he doesn't shy away from contact which is usually a good thing. However, with his small size, he's not gonna be breaking arms tackles in college on those inside runs. Those college LBs are gonna wrap him up inside and bring him down instead of him breaking those arms tackles like he does in his high school clips. I mean there's even a clip of him straight running over a guy at the 1:48 mark or so. Do you really think stuff like that is gonna work for a guy that small at the next level?

                      I just don't see if. Maybe if he bulks up and learns to run alot lower he can be a good change of pace guy and home run threat but I just don't see him being able to have much of an impact unless he seriously bulks up and does alot of learning on his technique and running style. And with his frame I just don't see the room to add much weight.

                      I just don't see the tools there for him to excell at the next level. I mean in recruits you usually look at technique, speed, size as the 1st three general points and then go from there. Well he's seriously lacking in 2 of the 3 areas and I don't know how much room there is for improvement in those 2. It's very hard to completely change a running style and there's not much you can do about a small frame.

                      He does seem to have decent vision although that's very hard to judge from HS clips and he changes direction fairly well. He has some ok qualities but I just don't know if I see enough in him to think he's anything more then a 2* prospect and KR/Change of Pace guy at best in college.
                      Works for for, you seem like a good guy. You're about the third one I've seen on this site.

                      He also plays CB if you'd like him better there. There's highlights of him playing on D but I don't have the link right now.

                      *Just looked around a little
                      I know Mass. isn't Texas or Florida, but his team was #2 in state and played good competition. They beat the #6 team in the state 40-7 and lost to the #1 team 36-28. The #1 team (Everett) is ranked #25 in the country which is pretty impressive. He dropped 199 yards on 20 carries against them.
                      Season stats: 2147 yards 11.42 ypc 33 td's
                      Ok, now I think he's even better than I did five minutes ago.
                      Last edited by reigle9; 01-06-2008, 10:40 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by adschofield View Post
                        Most underrated: Daymond Patterson
                        Tell the guy in your sig he looks like a real **** haha.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by reigle9 View Post
                          Tell the guy in your sig he looks like a real **** haha.
                          The crustache gets all the ladies. Watch it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by reigle9 View Post
                            Tell the guy in your sig he looks like a real **** haha.
                            See: Random Discussion Thread in the Off Topic Section



                            sig by BoneKrusher

                            Originally posted by BuckNaked
                            Ok I'd almost rather spank my meat with sandpaper at this point.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rich Jr View Post
                              The crustache gets all the ladies. Watch it.
                              It was a joke, I thought it was obvious but I guess not. He can name his hand a new name every night, but that doesn't mean he gets all the ladies. I haven't seen him on, think he might've offed himself after Deion Walker and the Stillers.

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