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    No comments or pretty pictures this time (sorry, I'm feeling lazy tonight). I just wanted to get this on paper (metaphorically of course). Comments are lovely as always, please be descriptive and intelligent.


    1) St. Louis Rams- Glenn Dorsey, Defensive Tackle, Louisiana State

    2) Miami Dolphins- Jake Long, Offensive Tackle, Michigan

    3) New York Jets- Darren McFadden, Runningback, Arkansas

    4) Atlanta Falcons- Andre Woodson, Quarterback, Kentucky

    5) Oakland Raiders- Chris Long, Defensive End, Virgnia

    6) New England Patriots (f/SF)- Malcolm Jenkins, Cornerback, Ohio State

    7) Cincinnati Bengals- Calais Campbell, Defensive End, Miami

    8) Minnesota Vikings- Matt Ryan, Quarterback, Boston College

    9) Houston Texans- Kenny Phillips, Safety, Miami

    10) Chicago Bears- Sam Baker, Offensive Tackle, Southern California

    11) Buffalo Bills- Desean Jackson, Wide Reciever, California

    12) Denver Broncos- Sedrick Ellis, Defensive Tackle, Southern California

    13) Philadelphia Eagles- James Laurinaitis, Linebacker, Ohio State

    14) Arizona Cardinals- Derrick Harvey, Hybrid 3-4, Florida

    15) Washington Redskins- Malcolm Kelley, Wide Reciever, Oklahoma

    16) Carolina- Brian Brohm, Quarterback, Louisville

    17) Tampa Bay- Early Doucett III, Wide Reciever, Louisiana State

    18) Dallas Cowboys (f/ Cle)- Jonathan Stewart, Runningback, Oregon

    19) Baltimore Ravens- Gosder Cherlius, Offensive Tackle, Boston College

    20) Kansas City- Ryan Clady, Offensive Tackle, Boise State

    21) New Orleans- Keith Rivers, Linebacker, Southern California

    22) Detroit Lions- Dan Conner, Linebacker, Penn State

    23) Seattle Seahawks- Felix Jones, Runningback, Arkansas

    24) Tennessee Titans- Adarius Bowman, Wide Reciever, Oklahoma State

    25) Jacksonville Jaguars- Michael Oher, Offensive Lineman, Ole Miss

    26) San Diego Chargers- Ray Maualuga, Linebacker, Southern California

    27) New York Giants- Reggie Smith, Defensive Back, Oklahoma

    28) Pittsburgh Steelers- Vernon Gholtson, 3-4 Hybrid, Ohio State

    29) Dallas Cowboys- Mike Jenkins, Cornerback, South Florida

    30) San Francisco 49'ers (f/Ind)- Quentin Groves, 3-4 Hybrid, Auburn

    31) Green Bay Packers- Steve Slaton, Runningback, West Virginia

    2nd Round
    33) St. Louis- Tony Hills, Offensive Tackle, Texas
    34) Miami- Dre Moore, Defensive End/Tackle, Maryland
    35) NYJ- Ezra Butler, Linebacker, Nevada
    36) Atlanta- Barry Richardson, Offensive Tackle, Clemson
    37) Oakland- Demario Presseley, Defensive Tackle, North Carolina State
    38) San Francisco- Frank Okam, Defensive Tackle, Texas
    39) Cincinnati- Ali Highsmith, Linebacker, Louisiana State
    40) Minnesota- Terrell Thomas, Cornerback, USC
    41) Atlanta (f/Hou)- Mike Hart, Runningback, Michigan
    42) Chicago- Chad Henne, Quarterback, Michigan
    43) Buffalo- Aqib Talib, Cornerback, Kansas
    44) Denver- Xavier Adibi, Linebacker, Virginia Tech
    45) Philadelphia- Limas Sweed, Wide Reciever, Texas
    46) Arizona- Antoine Cason, Cornerback, Arizona
    47) Washington- Lawrence Jackson, Defensive End, USC
    48) Carolina- Phillip Wheeler, Linebacker, Georgia Tech
    49) Tampa Bay- DeJuan Tribble, Cornerback, Boston College
    50) Cleveland- Red Bryant, Nose Tackle, Texas A&M
    51) Baltimore- Erik Ainge, Quarterback, Tennessee
    52) Kansas City- Dwight Lowery, Cornerback, San Diego State
    53) New Orleans- Tashard Choice, Runningback, Georgia Tech
    54) Detroit- Chevis Jackson, Cornerback, Louisiana State
    55) Seattle- Fred Davis, Tight End, USC
    56) Tennesee- Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Cornerback, Tennessee State
    57) Jacksonville- Keenan Burton, Wide Reciever, Kentucky
    58) Miami Dolphins (f/SD)- Shawn Crable, Outside Linebacker, Michigan
    59) NYG- Tavares Gooden, Linebacker, Miami
    60) Pittsburgh- Kirk Barton, Offensive Tackle, Ohio State
    61) Dallas- Harry Douglass, Wide Reciever, Louisville
    62) Indianapolis- Jonathan Goff, Linebacker, Vanderbilt
    63) Green Bay- Tracey Porter, Cornerback, Indiana
    64) New England- Beau Bell, Linebacker, UNLV

    3rd Round
    65) St. Louis- Josh Barrett, Safety, Arizona State
    66) Miami- Vince Hall, Linebacker, Virginia Tech
    67) NYJ- Chris Ellis, Outside Linebacker, Virginia Tech
    68) Atlanta- Kentwan Balmer, Defensive Tackle, Kentucky
    69) New England (f/Oak)- Alan Patrick, Runningback, Oklahoma
    70) San Francisco- D.J Hall, Wide Reciever, Alabama
    71) Cincinnatti- Craig Steltz, Safety, Louisiana State
    72) Minnesota- Jeff Otah, Offensive Tackle, Pittsburgh
    73) Houston- Mike McGlynn, Offensive Lineman, Pittsburgh
    74) Chicago- Quentin Demps, Safety, UTEP
    75) Buffalo- Andre Fluellen, Defensive Tackle, Florida State
    76) Minnesota (f/Den)- Andre Caldwell, Wide Reciever, Florida
    77) Philadelphia- Heath Benedict, Offensive Lineman, Newberry
    78) Arizona- Chris Johnson, Runningback, East Carolina
    79) Washington- Eric Young, Guard, Tennessee
    80) Carolina- Jonathan Hefney, Safety, Tennessee
    81) Tampa Bay- Colt Brennan, Quarterback, Hawaii
    82) Cleveland- Bruce Davis, UCLA, Outside Linebacker
    83) Buffalo (f/Bal)- John Carlson, Tight End, Notre Dame
    84) Kansas City- Steve Justice, Offensive Lineman, Wake Forest
    85) New Orleans- Simeon Castille, Defensive Back, Alabama
    86) Detroit- John Greco, Offensive Lineman, Toldeo
    87) Seattle- Shannon Tevaga, Offensive Lineman, UCLA
    88) Tennessee- Martin Rucker, Tight End, Missouri
    89) Jacksonville- Malik Jackson, Linebacker, Louisville
    90) Chicago (f/SD)- Donnie Avery, Wide Reciever, Houston
    91) NYG- Zach Bowman, Cornerback, Nebraska
    92) Pittsburgh- Lavelle Hawkins, Wide Reciever, Cal
    93) Dallas- Roy Schuening, Guard, Oregon State
    94) Indianapolis- Rafael Little, Runningback, Kentucky
    95) Green Bay- Jacob Temme, Tight End, Kentucky
    96) New England- Dennis Dixon, Quarterback, Oregon
    Last edited by bearsfan_51; 11-02-2007, 01:10 PM.


    Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

  • #2
    Absolutely hate the phins pick first pick! A RT with our # 2 overall pick? Come on! We have so many other holes, especially on defense. Which is why Chris Long or Calais Campbell would be much better picks there. We can get an OT later.

    Moore is ok in the second, as is Crable, although i would rather have a DB there.

    Hall also makes no sense in the 3rd. He doesn't fit our defense very well at all.

    It makes no sense at all to draft TWO LB's with 2 of our first 4 picks. Our D-Line and Secondary are the weakest links on our team and while Dre Moore addresses one, you completely ignored arguably our worst position in the secondary with either a S or a CB.

    Not a great mock overall, better luck next time.
    Last edited by thebow305; 11-02-2007, 03:20 AM.

    Dolphins Dream Draft: 1. Jaylon Smith 2. Artie Burns 3. Landon Turner

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    • #3
      Great Giants draft. I love Reggie Smith as a prospect and if Zach Bowman can play to his potential he will be a steal. I don't really know enough about Gooden to rank him as a prospect, but as long as he can be a WILL I'll be fine.

      You truly are my BF for that draft. =D


      Originally posted by Halsey
      I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Turtlepower View Post
        Great Giants draft. I love Reggie Smith as a prospect and if Zach Bowman can play to his potential he will be a steal. I don't really know enough about Gooden to rank him as a prospect, but as long as he can be a WILL I'll be fine.

        You truly are my BF for that draft. =D
        How cute....

        Dolphins Dream Draft: 1. Jaylon Smith 2. Artie Burns 3. Landon Turner

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        • #5
          Originally posted by thebow305 View Post
          How cute....
          I also like to give him bear hugs. =D


          Originally posted by Halsey
          I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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          • #6
            Early Doucet, DeJuan Tribble and Colt Brennan.

            Seems like a relatively good day 1 although I really think the Buccaneers need some defensive line help. A pass rushing presence at left end or a nose tackle who can collapse the pocket are two things which are needed but I'm not really sure of who to take in this situation. Maybe FA is the best way to address this.

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            • #7
              Happy with Groves and Okam, though I'd rather have a FS or interior o-lineman in the 3rd for the Niners. Although I like Hall, SF needs to fill their receiver need through FA.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by thebow305 View Post
                Absolutely hate the phins pick first pick! A RT with our # 2 overall pick? Come on! We have so many other holes, especially on defense. Which is why Chris Long or Calais Campbell would be much better picks there. We can get an OT later.

                Moore is ok in the second, as is Crable, although i would rather have a DB there.

                Hall also makes no sense in the 3rd. He doesn't fit our defense very well at all.

                It makes no sense at all to draft TWO LB's with 2 of our first 4 picks. Our D-Line and Secondary are the weakest links on our team and while Dre Moore addresses one, you completely ignored arguably our worst position in the secondary with either a S or a CB.

                Not a great mock overall, better luck next time.
                You might be the most pompous ass on here, and after looking at your work, you have no reason to be.

                Your linebackers are a serious issue, particularly with the strong likelyhood that both Thomas and Taylor will be gone next year. There is Crowder and who? Porter sucks. Sorry..if you haven't figured that one out yet he's completely useless. So that's 1 good linebacker out of 4 spots.

                It's not that I "completely ignored" the other positions, it's that there is no possible way that the Dolphins can fill all of their needs in 4 picks. I generally took what I thought were the best players available for needs that the Dolphins had. I personally think Hall can play ILB in a 3-4 and at that point the value is excellent.

                Chris Long I would be fine with instead of Jake Long, but this is also more of a reflection of how I think they will pick, not what I think they'll do. If it were me being GM of the Dolphins I'd take Andre Woodson, but I think the most likely pick is Long. Long is a consensus top 5 pick at this point, and there's no way in hell Campebll goes in the top 3. I know that you keep putting him there, but it's not happening. He's been mediocre at best this year, and will get drafted on upside alone, probably much higher than he should, but not that high.

                Regardless, I'd give thought to the way you talk to others. Stop acting like you know everything, you don't, and you aren't fooling anyone. Weren't you the one that a month ago was bitching about Dorsey in mocks saying that Long was the much more reasonable pick?


                Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Turtlepower View Post
                  Great Giants draft. I love Reggie Smith as a prospect and if Zach Bowman can play to his potential he will be a steal. I don't really know enough about Gooden to rank him as a prospect, but as long as he can be a WILL I'll be fine.

                  You truly are my BF for that draft. =D
                  Gooden, in a nutshell, is high risk/reward. Think Chris Henry from last year but with a slightly stronger resume.


                  Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                  • #10
                    Tracy Porter goes to UW-Green Bay???



                    Sig thanks to Bonekrusher

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                    • #11
                      Pretty generic cowboys draft...nothing to nitpick....although I'm not as high on Douglas as others...but he does hold value here. Nice job on the whole mock.

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                      • #12
                        Perefect round one pick for Oakland, I think most fans want Long. 2nd round I can understand but with Limas Sweed still on the board I rather have him. Raiders need WR help real bad.
                        Taking a Knapp.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post

                          11) Buffalo Bills- Desean Jackson, Wide Reciever, California
                          43) Buffalo- Aqib Talib, Cornerback, Kansas
                          75) Buffalo- Andre Fluellen, Defensive Tackle, Florida State
                          83) Buffalo (f/Bal)- John Carlson, Tight End, Notre Dame
                          In the first round, I'd rather we take Malcolm Kelly. We already have speedsters in Evans and Parrish. We need a big physical #2 WR on the other side of the field. That guy could be Kelly. I really like the pick of Talib. We need a big CB because all of our CBs are small. Fluellen would help out our defensive problems, and Carlson would give us a recieving threat at TE.

                          Great draft for the Bills, except for Jackson. We need a physical WR.
                          Last edited by Bills2083; 11-02-2007, 07:43 AM.


                          Originally Posted by scottyboy
                          my lord...I cannot imagine such a world where I can mention Raymell Rice's thighs around a girl and not be the only one sexually aroused
                          But for everyone reading this in Buffalo and Cleveland and everywhere else, take solace in the following: As crazy as it sounds, you're lucky. Your Mount Everest experience is still ahead of you. It's waiting, and it's glorious.- Bill Simmons

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                          • #14
                            Love the mock as a whole, love pick 1 for the Steelers...aint sure about rounds 2+3 though. On the whole an awsome mock, Grade A-
                            Last edited by Jakey; 11-02-2007, 08:00 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                              You might be the most pompous ass on here, and after looking at your work, you have no reason to be.

                              Your linebackers are a serious issue, particularly with the strong likelyhood that both Thomas and Taylor will be gone next year. There is Crowder and who? Porter sucks. Sorry..if you haven't figured that one out yet he's completely useless. So that's 1 good linebacker out of 4 spots.

                              It's not that I "completely ignored" the other positions, it's that there is no possible way that the Dolphins can fill all of their needs in 4 picks. I generally took what I thought were the best players available for needs that the Dolphins had. I personally think Hall can play ILB in a 3-4 and at that point the value is excellent.

                              Chris Long I would be fine with instead of Jake Long, but this is also more of a reflection of how I think they will pick, not what I think they'll do. If it were me being GM of the Dolphins I'd take Andre Woodson, but I think the most likely pick is Long. Long is a consensus top 5 pick at this point, and there's no way in hell Campebll goes in the top 3. I know that you keep putting him there, but it's not happening. He's been mediocre at best this year, and will get drafted on upside alone, probably much higher than he should, but not that high.

                              Regardless, I'd give thought to the way you talk to others. Stop acting like you know everything, you don't, and you aren't fooling anyone. Weren't you the one that a month ago was bitching about Dorsey in mocks saying that Long was the much more reasonable pick?


                              I am not a huge fan of the jake long pick either honestly. I dont mind the Hall pick for an ILB, but not huge on the OLB pick.

                              2) Miami Dolphins- Jake Long, Offensive Tackle, Michigan

                              Like said not really thrilled for a RT here, I believe you will see them take a later on pick there for RT. But it is not the worst pick in the world. I think Woodson would be far far worse (heck I value Ryan more then woodson personally for cameron's system). Unless Mueller is gone. I would personally rather have McFadden (assuming could trade him or ronnie in teh future) or Chris Long over Jake Long there. and I am very against chris long as a top caliber player I think he is hugely overhyped.

                              Now personally I dont think we will be in the 3-4 next year either.

                              34) Miami- Dre Moore, Defensive End/Tackle, Maryland

                              I love this pick, I think he could be a beast as a Nose tackle personally. I see him able to add weight and still be a monster in the middle.

                              58) Miami Dolphins (f/SD)- Shawn Crable, Outside Linebacker, Michigan

                              This is the only pick I wonder about as personally I wouldnt mind seeing Barrett here. We need a safety and some secondary help, yes I know we have alot of holes but I feel OLB can wait to a degree specially if we go back to the 3-4 (assuming we dont sign asante samuels)

                              66) Miami- Vince Hall, Linebacker, Virginia Tech

                              nice player with Zach and Crowder could be a nice trio for the 4-3, or with porter or JT a solid one for the 3-4 (think JT will be traded for a 2nd rounder personally).

                              oh wells that is my two cents

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