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    Jake Plummer released and signs with Houston Texans
    Jeff Garcia resigns with Philadelphia Eagles
    Ahman Green signs with New York Giants
    Jammal Lewis released and signs with Oakland Raiders
    Donte Stallworth resigns with Philadelphia Eagles
    Drew Bennett resigns with Tennessee Titans
    Eric Steinbach signs with Miami Dolphins
    Leonard Davis signs with Detroit Lions
    Dwight Freeney resigns with Indianapolis Colts
    Vonnie Holliday signs with Cleveland Browns
    Cato June resigns with Indianapolis Colts
    London Fletcher-Baker signs with New England Patriots
    Adalius Thomas signs with San Francisco 49ers
    Nate Clements signs with New Orleans Saints
    Ken Hamlin signs with Green Bay Packers
    Kris Deilman resigns with San Diego Chargers
    Lamont Jordan released and signs with Buffalo Bills


    Round 1

    1 Oakland Raiders JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
    2 Detroit Lions Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
    3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Joe Thomas, LT, Wisconsin
    4 Cleveland Browns Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
    5 Arizona Cardinals Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
    6 Washington Redskins Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
    7 Minnesota Vikings Levi Brown, OT, Penn State
    8 Houston Texans Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
    9 Miami Dolphins Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
    10 Atlanta Falcons Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
    11 San Francisco 49ers Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
    12 Buffalo Bills Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
    13 St. Louis Rams Ted Ginn Jr, WR, Ohio State
    14 Carolina Panthers LaRon Landry, FS, LSU
    15 Pittsburgh Steelers Jarvis Moss, DE/OLB, Florida
    16 Green Bay Packers Marshawn Lynch, RB, California
    17 Jacksonville Jaguars Reggie Nelson, FS, Florida
    18 Cincinnati Bengals Lawrence Timmons, LB, FSU
    19 Tennessee Titans Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
    20 New York Giants Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
    21 Denver Broncos Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
    22 Dallas Cowboys Daymeion Hughes, CB, California
    23 Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
    24 New England Patriots Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss
    25 New York Jets Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
    26 Philadelphia Eagles Michael Griffin, FS, Texas
    27 New Orleans Saints Tank Tyler, DT, North Carolina State
    28 New England Patriots Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
    29 Baltimore Ravens Anthony Spencer, LB, Purdue
    30 San Diego Chargers Brandon Meriweather, FS, Miami
    31 Chicago Bears Ryan Kalil, C/OG, USC
    32 Indianapolis Colts Jon Beason, LB, Miami

    Round 2

    33 Oakland Raiders Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio State
    34 Detroit Lions Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State
    35 Cleveland Browns Joe Staley, LT, Central Michigan
    36 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Victor Abiamiri, DE, Notre Dame
    37 New York Jets Brian Leonard, FB, Rutgers
    38 Arizona Cardinals Tony Ugoh, LT, Arkansas
    39 Houston Texans Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina
    40 Miami Dolphins Justin Blalock, OG, Texas
    41 Minnesota Vikings Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
    42 San Francisco 49ers Eric Weddle, FS, Utah
    43 Buffalo Bills Ben Grubbs, OG, Auburn
    44 Atlanta Falcons Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
    45 Carolina Panthers Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia
    46 Pittsburgh Steelers Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
    47 Green Bay Packers Greg Olsen, TE, Miami
    48 Jacksonville Jaguars David Harris, LB, Michigan
    49 Cincinnati Bengals Eric Wright, CB, UNLV
    50 Tennessee Titans Justin Harrell, DT, Tennessee
    51 New York Giants Earl Everett, LB, Florida
    52 St. Louis Rams Stewart Bradley, LB, Nebraska
    53 Dallas Cowboys Arron Sears, OG, Tennessee
    54 Kansas City Chiefs Brandon Mebane, DT, California
    55 Seattle Seahawks Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
    56 Denver Broncos Kenny Irons, RB, Auburn
    57 Philadelphia Eagles Anthony Gonzalez, WR, Ohio State
    58 New Orleans Saints Buster Davis, LB, FSU
    59 New York Jets LaMarr Woodley, LB, Michigan
    60 New England Patriots Aaron Rouse, SS, Virginia Tech
    61 Baltimore Ravens Josh Beekman, OG, Boston College
    62 San Diego Chargers Craig Davis, WR, LSU
    63 Chicago Bears Scott Chandler, TE, Iowa
    64 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, UTEP

    Round 3

    65 Oakland Raiders Doug Free, LT, Northern Illinois
    66 Detroit Lions Tanard Jackson, CB, Syracuse
    67 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Josh Wilson, CB, Maryland
    68 Cleveland Browns Brandon Siler, LB, Florida
    69 Arizona Cardinals Rufus Alexander, LB, Oklahoma
    70 Denver Broncos Jason Hill, WR, Washington State
    71 Miami Dolphins Fred Bennett, CB, South Carolina
    72 Minnesota Vikings Chansi Stucky, WR, Clemson
    73 Houston Texans Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State
    74 Buffalo Bills H.B. Blades, LB, Pittsburgh
    75 Atlanta Falcons Tony Hunt, RB, Penn State
    76 San Francisco 49ers Antonio Pittman, RB, Ohio State
    77 Pittsburgh Steelers Marshal Yanda, OG, Iowa
    78 Green Bay Packers Ray McDonald, DE, Florida
    79 Jacksonville Jaguars Ikiaka Alama-Francis, DE, Hawaii
    80 Tennessee Titans Tim Crowder, DE, Texas
    81 New York Giants Manuel Ramirez, OG, Texas Tech
    82 St. Louis Rams Justin Durant, LB, Hampton
    83 Carolina Panthers Drew Stanton, QB, Michigan State
    84 Kansas City Chiefs David Irons, CB, Auburn
    85 Seattle Seahawks Samson Satele, OG, Hawaii
    86 Denver Broncos Ryan McBean, DT, Oklahoma State
    87 Dallas Cowboys Mason Crosby, K, Colorado
    88 New Orleans Saints Trent Edwards, QB, Stanford
    89 New York Jets Kareem Brown, DT, Miami
    90 New Orleans Saints Matt Spaeth, TE, Minnesota
    91 New England Patriots Dan Bazuin, DE/LB, Central Michigan
    92 Baltimore Ravens Kevin Kolb, QB, Houston
    93 San Diego Chargers Anthony Waters, LB, Clemson
    94 Chicago Bears Sabby Piscitelli, S, Oregon State
    95 Indianapolis Colts Ben Patrick, TE, Delaware

    Round 4

    96 Oakland Raiders Lorenzo Booker, RB, FSU
    97 Detroit Lions Tim Duckworth, OG, Auburn
    98 Cleveland Browns Brandon Jackson, RB, Nebraska
    99 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ryan Harris, OT, Notre Dame
    100 San Francisco 49ers Paul Williams, WR, Fresno State
    101 Arizona Cardinals Dwayne Wright, RB, Fresno State
    102 Minnesota Vikings Jay Moore, DE, Nebraska
    103 Houston Texans Michael Coe, CB, Alabama State
    104 Miami Dolphins Jacoby Jones, WR, Lane
    105 Atlanta Falcons Audrae Allison, WR, East Carolina
    106 San Francisco 49ers Tony Taylor, ILB, Georgia
    107 Buffalo Bills Marcus Thomas, DT, Florida
    108 Green Bay Packers Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee
    109 Jacksonville Jaguars Steve Smith, WR, USC
    110 Cincinnati Bengals Antonio Johnson, DT, Mississippi State
    111 Tennessee Titans Darius Walker, RB, Notre Dame
    112 New York Giants Brandon Frye, OT, Virginia Tech
    113 St. Louis Rams Tarell Brown, CB, Texas
    114 Carolina Panthers James Marten, OT, Boston College
    115 Pittsburgh Steelers Zak DeOssie, LB, Brown
    116 Seattle Seahawks Michael Johnson, S, Arizona
    117 Atlanta Falcons Mansfield Wrotto, OG, Georgia Tech
    118 Dallas Cowboys Brian Robison, DE/OLB, Texas
    119 New Orleans Saints Ryan Smith, CB, Florida
    120 San Francisco 49ers John Wendling, SS, Wyoming
    121 Philadelphia Eagles Prescott Burgess, OLB, Michigan
    122 New Orleans Saints Dallas Baker, WR, Florida
    123 New England Patriots Doug Datish, OG, Ohio State
    124 Tennessee Titans C.J. Gaddis, CB, Clemson
    125 San Diego Chargers Mike Jones, OG, Iowa
    126 Chicago Bears Kyle Young, C/OG, Fresno State
    127 Indianapolis Colts Turk McBride, DT, Tennessee

    Round 5

    128 Oakland Raiders Rhema McKnight, WR, Notre Dame
    129 Detroit Lions Joe Newton, TE, Oregon State
    130 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Josh Gattis, SS, Wake Forest
    131 Cleveland Browns A.J. Davis, CB, North Carolina State
    132 Arizona Cardinals John Abbate, LB, Wake Forest
    133 Washington Redskins Daniel Sepulveda, P, Baylor
    134 Houston Texans Jay Alford, DT, Penn State
    135 Detroit Lions Mkristo Bruce, DE, Washington State
    136 Minnesota Vikings Courtney Taylor, WR, Auburn
    137 San Francisco 49ers Paul Soliai, NT, Utah
    138 St. Louis Rams Jordan Palmer, QB, UTEP
    139 Atlanta Falcons Nick Folk, K, Arizona
    140 Jacksonville Jaguars Allen Barbre, OT, Missouri Southern State
    141 Cincinnati Bengals LeRoy Harris, OG, North Carolina State
    142 Tennessee Titans John Beck, QB, BYU
    143 New York Giants Gary Russell, RB, Minnesota
    144 St. Louis Rams Dustin Fry, OG, Clemson
    145 Carolina Panthers Brandon Myles, WR, West Virginia
    146 Pittsburgh Steelers Joe Filani, WR, Texas Tech
    147 Green Bay Packers Marvin White, FS, TCU
    148 Denver Broncos Chase Johnson, OT, Wyoming
    149 Dallas Cowboys Kevin Payne, SS, Louisiana-Monroe
    150 Kansas City Chiefs Martez Milner, TE, Georgia
    151 Seattle Seahawks Kenny Scott, CB, Georgia Tech
    152 Philadelphia Eagles Kenneth Darby, RB, Alabama
    153 New Orleans Saints DeAndre Jackson, CB, Iowa State
    154 New York Jets Clark Harris, TE, Rutgers
    155 Oakland Raiders LaRon McClain, FB, Alabama
    156 Baltimore Ravens David Patterson, DE, Ohio State
    157 San Diego Chargers Chris Davis, WR/KR, FSU
    158 Chicago Bears Marvin Mitchell, ILB, Tennessee
    159 Indianapolis Colts John Tally, CB, Duke

    Round 6

    160 Oakland Raiders Ola Dagunduro, DT, Nebraska
    161 Detroit Lions David Clowney, WR, Virginia Tech
    162 Cleveland Browns Stanley Doughty, NT, South Carolina
    163 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chase Pittman, DE, LSU
    164 Washington Redskins C.J. Wilson, CB, Baylor
    165 New England Patriots Dan Mozes, C, West Virginia
    166 Miami Dolphins Baratka Atkins, DE, Miami
    167 Minnesota Vikings Justin Warren, ILB, Texas A&M
    168 Houston Texans Mike Otto, OT, Purdue
    169 Buffalo Bills Stephen Nicholas, LB, South Florida
    170 Atlanta Falcons Jonny Harline, TE, BYU
    171 San Francisco 49ers Justin Hickman, OLB/DE, UCLA
    172 Cincinnati Bengals Juwan Simpson, OLB, Alabama
    173 Tennessee Titans Chris Denman, OT, Fresno State
    174 New York Giants KaMichael Hall, OLB, Georgia Tech
    175 St. Louis Rams Xzavia Jackson, DE, Missouri
    176 Carolina Panthers Tim Shaw, OLB, Penn State
    177 Pittsburgh Steelers Tyler Palko, QB, Pittsburgh
    178 Green Bay Packers Derek Landri, DT/DE, Notre Dame
    179 Jacksonville Jaguars Adam Podlesh, P, Maryland
    180 Kansas City Chiefs Mario Henderson, OT, FSU
    181 Kansas City Chiefs Michael Okwo, LB, Stanford
    182 Seattle Seahawks Jason Snelling, FB, Virginia
    183 Denver Broncos Julius Wilson, OT, UAB
    184 New Orleans Saints Justin Medlock, K, UCLA
    185 New York Jets Ryan Moore, WR, Miami
    186 Philadelphia Eagles Keith Jackson, DT, Arkansas
    187 New England Patriots David Ball, WR, New Hampshire
    188 Baltimore Ravens Dan Santucci, OG, Notre Dame
    189 Tennessee Titans Kevin McLee, OLB, West Virginia
    190 Chicago Bears Jarrett Hicks, WR Texas Tech
    191 Tennessee Titans Tony Franklin, S/CB, Virginia

    Round 7

    192 Oakland Raiders Quincy Black, OLB, New Mexico
    193 New York Jets Dallas Sartz, OLB, USC
    194 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Reggie Lewis, CB, Florida
    195 Chicago Bears Larry Brown, DT, Oklahoma State
    196 Washington Redskins Blair Phillips, MLB, Oregon
    197 New England Patriots Matt Herian, TE, Nebraska
    198 Miami Dolphins Rory Johnson, ILB, Ole Miss
    199 Minnesota Vikings J.D. Nelson, SS, Oregon
    200 Houston Texans Desmond Bishop, LB, California
    201 Buffalo Bills Mike Walker, WR, Central Florida
    202 Atlanta Falcons Corey Hilliard, OT, Oklahoma State
    203 Cleveland Browns C.J. Ah You, DE, Oklahoma
    204 Cincinnati Bengals Kasey Studdard, OG, Texas
    205 Tennessee Titans Travarous Bain, CB, Hampton
    206 New York Giants Steve Breaston, WR, Michigan
    207 St. Louis Rams Antwan Barnes, LB, Florida International
    208 Carolina Panthers Jesse Daniels, SS, LSU
    209 Pittsburgh Steelers Reggie Ball, QB/WR/KR, Georgia Tech
    210 Green Bay Packers Ryne Robinson, WR, Miami (OH)
    211 Jacksonville Jaguars Zach Latimer, ILB, Oklahoma
    212 Kansas City Chiefs Andrew Carnahan, OT, Arizona State
    213 Kansas City Chiefs Cory Anderson, FB, Tennessee
    214 Seattle Seahawks Kolby Smith, RB, Louisville
    215 Denver Broncos Isiah Stanback, QB, Washington
    216 Dallas Cowboys Chris Leak, QB, Florida
    217 Dallas Cowboys Nate Harris, LB, Louisville
    218 Philadelphia Eagles Uche Nwaneri, OG, Purdue
    219 New England Patriots Garrett Wolfe, RB, Northern Illinois
    220 Baltimore Ravens Thomas Clayton, RB, Kansas State
    221 Tennessee Titans Chandler Williams, WR, Florida International
    222 Chicago Bears Jared Zabransky, QB, Boise State
    223 Tennessee Titans Chaz Williams, CB, Louisiana-Monroe

  • #2
    Not a big fan of Meachem, I don't know about Rouse yet, but the rest of the draft was good for the Patriots. Love Patrick Willis.

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    • #3
      Nice Falcons draft. Except Folk, I like Medlock a lot more and not so early either. I'm guessing you have Jimmy Williams moving to FS. Also, this would have to be with us signing some FA OL.

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      • #4
        15 Pittsburgh Steelers Jarvis Moss, DE/OLB, Florida
        46 Pittsburgh Steelers Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
        77 Pittsburgh Steelers Marshal Yanda, OG, Iowa
        115 Pittsburgh Steelers Zak DeOssie, LB, Brown
        146 Pittsburgh Steelers Joe Filani, WR, Texas Tech
        177 Pittsburgh Steelers Tyler Palko, QB, Pittsburgh
        209 Pittsburgh Steelers Reggie Ball, QB/WR/KR, Georgia Tech

        Eh, not one good value the entire draft. Doesn't fill many needs. I applaud you on the effort. But would give this Steelers mock a D.

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        • #5
          If Stallworth re-signs than why would the eagles draft Gonzalez? I can see you put a lot of work into this so I won't give you a hard time over it.

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          • #6
            I would like it to happen, but I don't think Garcia will be an Eagle next year.

            Ilike the Stallworth re-signing, and it is accurate too.

            I think Clements will go to the Browns though, so you may want to change that.

            Ilove the first round pick. It fills our major need, the only thing that would change that pick is if he was gone, or Patrick Willis would fall to 26, but that is probably not going to happen.

            Bad 2nd rounder for the Eagles. I won't go crazy, but I know some Eagles fans that would have your head with this pick, especially considering you have us re-signing Stallworth. If we re-sign Stallworth, the Eagles will not draft a WR in any round. A DE would be a more possible pick here. I would say Brian Leonard as well, but you have him going early round two, which may be a little of a stretch, but it is possible.

            Just thought I would keep you posted, if the Eagles re-sign Stallworth during free agency, it remains a fourth round that we lose.

            I'll say that you are assuming Donte re-signs before FA to analyze this pick. The Eagles would draft an ILB if any LB in this draft. Anthony Waters would probably be a solid 3rd rounder for the Eagles, but injuries may scare off a few teams even more. He may be there in round four, but if not, a tall CB or a another ILB could be a possible pick here.

            I like that you have us getting a bigger RB in the later rounds in case Leonard wouldn't be the pick. Another option would be Nate Illoa, but he could be around until the 6th. Good pick, though.

            I don't know much about this guy. If he is a big, run-stuffing DT this is an OK pick. I think the Eagles will most likely go after a cheap one in FA though.

            It was a good idea having the Eagles picking at least one O-linemen, but tackle is a bigger need, not guard, but at least you showed some understanding of how our FO works. This is an OK pick, but a tackle would be more likely.

            This draft gets a C, a lot of points were lost with the Gonzales pick, but it could be a B/B+ if you fix the second round pick to a good DE.

            This off-season overall though would be a B as it stands right now.

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            • #7
              Packers could use a LB instead of the 2nd DE/DT


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              • #8
                Browns would not wait til round 6 to draft a dlineman, even if we did get one in FA. Otherwise, nice draft.

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                • #9
                  Re: Complete 7 round mock plus some offseason signings...

                  23 Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
                  54 Kansas City Chiefs Brandon Mebane, DT, California
                  84 Kansas City Chiefs David Irons, CB, Auburn
                  150 Kansas City Chiefs Martez Milner, TE, Georgia
                  180 Kansas City Chiefs Mario Henderson, OT, FSU
                  181 Kansas City Chiefs Michael Okwo, LB, Stanford
                  212 Kansas City Chiefs Andrew Carnahan, OT, Arizona State
                  213 Kansas City Chiefs Cory Anderson, FB, Tennessee

                  Def. improvements on Defense, Mebane and Irons address issues that need to be fixed now maybe. Okwo a solid late round defenseive pick. Love the late round use on the Linemen, Carnahan and Henderson are both ones that coule develop into regulars on sundays not this year maybe next. I like the fullback pick, help with blocking and maybe a couple carries.

                  PIck by Pick:
                  Jarrett- A-. Big receiver possession type that oculd get near 75 receptions rookie year and only more throughout his career.

                  Mebane- A+ he will start right away.

                  Irons- B we need some youth in the scondary, we addressed it the year before and always good to adress it esp with Irons who cold start in a year or two.

                  Milner C+ Always good to have a third tight end, just in case. Solid hands, needs some polishing could be a starter or at least someone to get about 15-20 receptions just another target. Also help in the blocking game, value of the the pic kat the time maybe cold have picked up a linebaccker or o-linemen.

                  mario henderson B-, value pick is solid, offensive linemen a need for sure. Big guy for sure, atheltic but not very fast for his size,. Very strong though so i like that, he often shows a killer demeanor.

                  okwo- B, the value of a pick this late with someone liek this is great would rather an ILB maybe but this will suffice.

                  Carnahan- A++++ tall, very strong atheltic guy could play guard or taclke. I think he needs to blulk up a lil more, but he is a force. i like him alot.

                  anderson C full back not bad would rather another wr here but i wouldnt mind this he can havea few rushes like he did earlier in his career, good for blocking protection and lead blocking

                  overall b/b+

                  i liked it

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                  • #10
                    How much do you hate the Vikings?

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                    • #11
                      I like the Redskins' draft. But really, we all know they will make some free agency signings this year.

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                      • #12
                        It's typical that the Bucs get no signing, but then you made us SKIP CJ!!! Thomas is great but we will never pass up CJ. Cleveland doesn't need him either so that wasn't very logical.

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                        • #13
                          Not really sure why the Raiders would draft two defensive tackles after signing Sands to a big contract.

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                          • #14
                            good pick up in lewis, bad draft

                            rather have...
                            1st CJ or AD. Moss will be gone and jordan might
                            2nd joe staley
                            3rd best DE or DT
                            4th good pick
                            5th joe newton and DT or DE, which ever one we dont pick in the 3rd
                            6th BPA
                            7th BPA


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                            • #15
                              Re: Complete 7 round mock plus some offseason signings...

                              Originally posted by bored of education
                              23 Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
                              54 Kansas City Chiefs Brandon Mebane, DT, California
                              84 Kansas City Chiefs David Irons, CB, Auburn
                              150 Kansas City Chiefs Martez Milner, TE, Georgia
                              180 Kansas City Chiefs Mario Henderson, OT, FSU
                              181 Kansas City Chiefs Michael Okwo, LB, Stanford
                              212 Kansas City Chiefs Andrew Carnahan, OT, Arizona State
                              213 Kansas City Chiefs Cory Anderson, FB, Tennessee

                              Def. improvements on Defense, Mebane and Irons address issues that need to be fixed now maybe. Okwo a solid late round defenseive pick. Love the late round use on the Linemen, Carnahan and Henderson are both ones that coule develop into regulars on sundays not this year maybe next. I like the fullback pick, help with blocking and maybe a couple carries.

                              PIck by Pick:
                              Jarrett- A-. Big receiver possession type that oculd get near 75 receptions rookie year and only more throughout his career.

                              Mebane- A+ he will start right away.

                              Irons- B we need some youth in the scondary, we addressed it the year before and always good to adress it esp with Irons who cold start in a year or two.

                              Milner C+ Always good to have a third tight end, just in case. Solid hands, needs some polishing could be a starter or at least someone to get about 15-20 receptions just another target. Also help in the blocking game, value of the the pic kat the time maybe cold have picked up a linebaccker or o-linemen.

                              mario henderson B-, value pick is solid, offensive linemen a need for sure. Big guy for sure, atheltic but not very fast for his size,. Very strong though so i like that, he often shows a killer demeanor.

                              okwo- B, the value of a pick this late with someone liek this is great would rather an ILB maybe but this will suffice.

                              Carnahan- A++++ tall, very strong atheltic guy could play guard or taclke. I think he needs to blulk up a lil more, but he is a force. i like him alot.

                              anderson C full back not bad would rather another wr here but i wouldnt mind this he can havea few rushes like he did earlier in his career, good for blocking protection and lead blocking

                              overall b/b+

                              i liked it
                              you mean Bowe not Jarrett

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