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    Constructive criticism appreciated:

    Round 1

    1.) Miami - QB Matt Ryan, Boston College
    -Call me a hypocrite because ive argued the last few days that none of the quarterbacks this year are really elite and deserve to go this high. I stand by that but need seems to dictate all in the draft anymore and Miami has a big need at QB. I have a hunch that even though theyve got a coach in his first year, they may very well pull a clean sweep of the staff and front office in an attempt to wash the taste of starting 0-13 out of their mouths, and the new staff may be best off starting new with a QB of thier own. This holds even more true now with the potential hiring of Bill Parcells.

    2.) St. Louis - DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
    -The best defensive talent available this year and it fills a huge need for the swiss cheese rams D. No one can argue here...

    3.) NY Jets - HB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
    -While one may argue that they have bigger needs on the defensive front 7, a RB as talented as McFadden simply can't be passed up. He'll go great with Jones and Washington at first before eventually becoming their main go to back.

    4.) Atlanta - QB Andre Woodson, Kentucky
    -There may not be a more obvious pick than a QB to the falcons, and Woodson has upside out the you-know-what. Interesting side note, I've heard from a credible source that Atlanta is the only NFL team whose majority season ticket holders are African-American, and what better way is there to keep them around after the mike vick fiasco than to bring in a new young black QB (and possibly a black HC since they appear very interested in Mike Singletary. Very, very deserving canidate btw)

    5.) New England (from SF) - DE/OLB Vernon Gholston, Ohio St.
    -The pats are in a sore need for athletic playmakers on defense, especially with an aging linebacker corps, and he is perhaps by far the top player at this point.

    6.) Baltimore - QB Brian Brohm, Louisville
    -Steve McNair has long been over the hill and Kyle Boller is a career backup at best.

    7.) Kansas City - OT Jake Long, Michigan
    -The top o-lineman available who will solidify one of their tackle spots for many a year to come.

    8.) Oakland - DE Chris Long, Virginia
    -They need help in the front 7 in any form it will take an Long is a versatile DE who should be a help in all aspects of the defense.

    9.) Cincinnati - MLB James Laurenitis, Ohio St.
    -After having to a decent starting DE to play OLB due to injuries and ineffectiveness, this pick seems obvious to help solidify that problematic side of the ball.

    10.) Chicago - OT Jeff Otah, Pitt
    -While they do have a huge need at QB, one can be found later on in the draft while they go ahead and inject some youth into their very old o-line. He can instantly replace fred miller at right tackle while being groomed to replace john tait long term at LT. This way, any QB they have will have a chance to actually throw the ball.

    11.) Arizona - CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio St.
    -Adds a high level of talent to thier otherwise average (at best) secondary.

    12.) Denver - OLB Keith Rivers, USC
    -DJ Williams is the only bright spot of that corps and Rivers will help out immediately.

    13.) Carolina - S Kenny Phillips, Miami
    -Will instantly address an area of need in what could be John Fox's final chance as a HC there.

    14.) Detroit - OT Ryan Clady, Boise St.
    -They've given up the most sacks in the league (again i believe) and he is the best tackle prospect available at this point.

    15.) Philly - WR Desean Jackson, Cal
    -They badly need a playmaker outside of brian westbrook and he will also help out as a returner.

    16.) New Orleans - CB Mike Jenkins, South Fla.
    -Jason David has been a free agent bust and mike mckenzie is getting up there in years.

    17.) Buffalo - WR Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma
    -A big target for whoever their QB ends up being to compliment Evans and Parrish.

    18.) Houston - HB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
    -Ahman Green and Ron Dayne have been just OK when called upon but both are hardly young and Stewart will be able to carry the load for years to come.

    19.) Washington - DT Sedrick Ellis, USC
    -They need help along the d-line for sure and he could be great.

    20.) Tennessee - DE Calais Campbell, Miami
    -A very versatile defender who will be a good compliment to pro bowler vanden bosch on the other side.

    21.) Minnesota - DE Derrick Harvey, Florida
    -An upgrade to the one weak spot along thier otherwise great d-line

    22.) Seattle - OT Sam Baker, USC
    -Instant help to thier o-line which has struggled since losing hutchinson to the vikes and can be groomed long term to take over for walter jones.

    23.) Dallas (from Cle) - CB Aquib Talib, Kansas
    -a tough corner to compliment terrance newman and who's coverage skills can help keep roy williams out of coverage where hes at his weakest.

    24.) Pittsburgh - OLB Dan Conner, Penn St.
    -a very good linebacker who can be moved around a D still in transition from a 34 to 43

    25.) Tampa Bay - WR Mario Manningham, Michigan
    -a solid player to develop behind the aging galloway and hilliard

    26.) CB Antoine Cason, Arizona
    -They seem to need help all over thier defense, especially at CB where all they have are aging journeymen around aaron ross.

    27.) San Diego - OT Gosder Cherilius, BC
    -I keep hearing on the forums how they want someone to play RT and allow olivea to move to guard, well, now they can.

    28.) Jacksonville - WR Adarius Bowman, Ok. St.
    -Reggie Williams may be salvagable but they need someone better than bust matt jones and so-so dennis northcutt.

    29.) Green Bay - CB Leondis McKelvin, Troy
    -A good young corner to help out thier otherwise aging CB tandem

    30.) San Fran (from Ind) - WR Early Doucet, LSU
    -A possible stud to compliment Darrel Jackson who has so far been a major disappointment.

    31.) Dallas - HB Felix Jones, Arkansas
    -Jerry Jones can't land his #1 arkansas back but he gets jones who will be a good compliment to Marion Barber after losing julius jones to free agency.

    32.) Pats- Forfeited

    Round 2

    1.) Miami OT Chris Williams
    -an o-lineman to protect their round 1 QB investment.

    2.) NY Jets - DT Frank Okam, Texas
    -a big tackle to help sure up thier front 7

    3.) Atlanta - CB Trae Williams, South Fla
    -a CB option to help them with the possible trade of DeAngelo Hall whos meltdowns have cost the team this year.

    4.) St. Louis - QB Colt Brennan, Hawaii
    -A high risk/high reward type QB who can be groomed behind bulger for a few years while serving as a decent backup.

    5.) Baltimore - CB Tyrell Thomas, USC
    -Rolle and McCalister arent getting any younger and their backups have proved incapable of being good so far this year.

    6.) Kansas City - DE Lawrence Jackson, USC
    -Even though they've vowed to franchise tag pro-bowler jared allen, they could use someone to compliment/back him up.

    7.) Oakland - WR Harry Douglas, Louisville
    -A good player despite being undersized who could become a favored target of Jamarcus Russell in the future.

    8.) San Fran - OG Eric Young, Tennessee
    -O-line play has been part of their problem this year and he would fit in nicely next to last years first round choice Joe Staley.

    9.) Chicago - DT Kentwan Balmer, NC
    -Injuries have exposed their lack of depth on defense and they could use someone good to play long term next to Tommie Harris

    10.) Cincinnati - DT Demario Pressley, NC St.
    -D-line has been another major concern of theirs and he comes from the same place that has produced plenty of high draft pick lineman in the past.

    11.) Denver - S Craig Steltz, LSU
    -A good player who can be the long term replacement to John Lynch

    12.) Carolina - OT Tony Hills, Texas
    -Another instant upgrade to help John Fox retain his job and a backup solution should they lose jordan gross

    13.) Detroit - CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tenn. St.
    -After addressing their biggest need in round 1, they address their 2nd biggest here with a player looking to follow in the footsteps of previous small school corners like charles tillman and rashean mathis.

    14.) Philly - OLB Ali Highsmith, LSU
    -Takeo Spikes isnt getting any younger and depth is needed.

    15.) Arizona - HB Steve Slaton, West Virginia
    -Edge is still doing well but he could use a compliment and solid backup.

    16.) Buffalo - TE John Carlson, Notre Dame
    -Another big target to go along with their first pick.

    17.) Atlanta (from Hou) - OLB Phillip Wheeler, Georgia Tech
    -Keith Brooking is no spring chicken and at least, depth is needed. Plus he played college in the same state.

    18.) Washington - DE Quentin Groves, Auburn
    -Speedy pass rusher to add to their d-line

    19.) New Orleans - MLB Jonathan Goff, Vandy
    -They addressed their biggest need in round 1 and address thier 2nd biggest here.

    20.) WR Earl Bennett, Vandy
    -They really need some top receiving talent but Childress doesn't like to pick them in the first round, so they nab one here.

    21.) Tennessee - WR Limus Sweed, Texas
    -They go back to Texas to pick up a big target for Vince Young. Likely will fall this far after timing badly in the 40.

    22.) Cleveland - HB Mike Hart, Michigan
    -Even if they resign Jamal Lewis, he isnt the long term answer and at the very least a backup is needed.

    23.) Pittsburgh - OG Roy Schuening, Oregon
    -They stand to Faneca in free agency so a replacement is needed.

    24.) Tampa Bay - QB Chad Henne, Michigan
    -A top backup option who can learn behind Jeff Garcia for a few years.

    25.) NY Giants - OLB Shawn Crable, Michigan
    -After addressing the secondary in round 1, they can add to their weak LB corps here.

    26.) Miami (from SD) - S Josh Barrett, Arizona St.
    -They still need help all over the place and this is a good start in their secondary.

    27.) Seattle - HB Matt Forte, Tulane
    -Alexander isn't getting any younger or more effective so they look to the future here.

    28.) Jacksonville - CB Dejuan Tribble, BC
    -Could use an upgrade across from Mathis or at least a good nickel back.

    29.) Indy - OLB Xavier Adibi, VT
    -A smaller linebacker like Tony Dungy likes who will add depth and can take over for Rob Morris long term.

    30.) Green Bay - DE Tommy Blake, TCU
    -A first round talent who falls this far due to health concerns and who will add to their already potent d-line

    31.) Dallas - WR Andre Caldwell, Florida
    -TO isnt getting any younger and terry glenn's career may be over so they add depth and a future replacement here.

    32.) New England - CB Tracy Porter, Indiana
    -After injecting some youth and athleticism to their LB corps in round 1, they do the same for their secondary here and also protect against the loss of Asante Samuel.

  • #2
    Good Vikings picks.


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    • #3
      Dont like the 2nd round pick for KC. Back up DE is McBride, Wilkerson and Tamba Hali is the other end. They will franchise tag him and our End situation will be fine
      my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
      <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
      <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
      <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
      Originally posted by Hermstheman83
      What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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      • #4
        Ellis in rd 1 is amazing but groves in rd 2 is terrible. he doesnt fit the scheme of greg williams with his size and would struggle to even see the field. if we take dline in rd 1 then we should go best available olb or offensive line in rd 2. if neither of those are decent then possession/redzone wr.

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        • #5
          Woodson - not worth the #4 overall. no QB is. we go with OT Jake Long there.

          Williams - HORRIBLE PICK! CB IS NOT A NEED! Hall hated Petrino. that would have been the onyl way he left is if Petrino stayed. Petrino gone = Hall stays. CB is not a need. we get QB Colt Brennan here.

          Wheeler - good pick

          overall D on your draft/

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          Atlanta Falcons and NFL Draft Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report

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          • #6
            Originally posted by scar988 View Post
            Woodson - not worth the #4 overall. no QB is. we go with OT Jake Long there.

            Williams - HORRIBLE PICK! CB IS NOT A NEED! Hall hated Petrino. that would have been the onyl way he left is if Petrino stayed. Petrino gone = Hall stays. CB is not a need. we get QB Colt Brennan here.

            Wheeler - good pick

            overall D on your draft/
            The falcons are the one team i can almost gurantee takes a QB in round 1 like it or not.

            I think a lot definitally depends on thier next coach but it seems like the best way to rid the dark clouds of the vick fiasco is to bring in someone who can take over ASAP and get the fans back on the teams side in atlanta.

            you dont do that with linemen, no way, no how. no matter how much theyre actually needed

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
              The falcons are the one team i can almost gurantee takes a QB in round 1 like it or not.

              I think a lot definitally depends on thier next coach but it seems like the best way to rid the dark clouds of the vick fiasco is to bring in someone who can take over ASAP and get the fans back on the teams side in atlanta.

              you dont do that with linemen, no way, no how. no matter how much theyre actually needed
              I AM A FALCONS FAN!!! I FOLLOW THE TEAM!!!

              The Falcons draft BPA. and in that situation QB is not the BPA, especially not when you have a guy like Jake Long who is ALSO at a position of need.

              ALSO, OT is a bigger need than QB because it affects both aspects of the offense, not just the pass game. Also, the QB class is deep and the difference between a guy like Brennan in the 2nd and Woodson in the top 5 (horrible value) is very little compared to the difference between Cherilus and Long at the OT spot.

              nice try though, but if you have 2 players. 1 is at #3 on your board and on position of need, and the other is at #10 on your board and a position of need.
              meaning both are at a position of need, why would you get the #10 (Woodson) over the #3 (Long)?

              it doesn't make sense and NFL teams don't draft by "position of biggest need" they draft BPA at the positions needed. in atlatna it's OT, NT, QB, MLB as our 4 biggest needs and the BPA in those at #4 is Long, NOT WOODSON.

              Owner of ScarDraft
              Atlanta Falcons and NFL Draft Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report

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              • #8
                Terrible Packers draft. I realize that Scott has McKelvin as his #2 corner, but he does not fit our system at all. I also don't like him as a prospect. To me he seems like the over hyped small school prospect that never turns out to be anything more than a nickelback. You hit the right position, wrong player.

                For the second round I can't say the same. DE isn't really a need at all. We have an all-pro in Aaron Kampman on the left and a combination of Cullen Jenkins and KGB on the right. Mike Montgomery is a decent 4th DE too. It'd be a waste of a second round pick.

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                • #9
                  Vikings draft is gold.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah!! Malcolm Jenkins

                    BOO!!! Steve Slaton, he is overrated and a product of a system, no better of a prospect than J.J. Arrington and we know how that turned out, if you fell we must have another RB give us Forte the man is a beast, but we have much bigger needs in a 3-4 OLB, FS and OT

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                    • #11
                      I like Otah, but i think there are far bigger needs than DT for the Bears at this moment, they just have been unlucky, they lost like 5

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by scar988 View Post
                        I AM A FALCONS FAN!!! I FOLLOW THE TEAM!!!

                        The Falcons draft BPA. and in that situation QB is not the BPA, especially not when you have a guy like Jake Long who is ALSO at a position of need.

                        ALSO, OT is a bigger need than QB because it affects both aspects of the offense, not just the pass game. Also, the QB class is deep and the difference between a guy like Brennan in the 2nd and Woodson in the top 5 (horrible value) is very little compared to the difference between Cherilus and Long at the OT spot.

                        nice try though, but if you have 2 players. 1 is at #3 on your board and on position of need, and the other is at #10 on your board and a position of need.
                        meaning both are at a position of need, why would you get the #10 (Woodson) over the #3 (Long)?

                        it doesn't make sense and NFL teams don't draft by "position of biggest need" they draft BPA at the positions needed. in atlatna it's OT, NT, QB, MLB as our 4 biggest needs and the BPA in those at #4 is Long, NOT WOODSON.
                        I understand but this is my rebuttle:

                        if BPA is what teams draft by, then why the hell did the cardinals take levi brown last year?he was no 5 overall pick, but they needed him bad.

                        i think BPA only applied to your actual needs. i dont disagree that atlanta needs a tackle, but they have a fanbase in atlanta thats been through hell and you dont keep them on your side by taking lineman

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                        • #13
                          PERFECT Patriots draft. Vernon Gholston and Tracy Porter fit our defense perfectly, and those positions are our 2 biggest needs.

                          Great job for the Pats.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Renji View Post
                            I like Otah, but i think there are far bigger needs than DT for the Bears at this moment, they just have been unlucky, they lost like 5
                            I totally agree but if the bears are picking in the top 10, i dont think DT is a big enough need there.

                            Once the D is healthy again, i have a feeling they'll be right back to form if they add a fewplayers for depth later on.

                            Oline is a much bigger need i believe since most of the guys they have are nearing eligability for AARP...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                              Terrible Packers draft. I realize that Scott has McKelvin as his #2 corner, but he does not fit our system at all. I also don't like him as a prospect. To me he seems like the over hyped small school prospect that never turns out to be anything more than a nickelback. You hit the right position, wrong player.

                              For the second round I can't say the same. DE isn't really a need at all. We have an all-pro in Aaron Kampman on the left and a combination of Cullen Jenkins and KGB on the right. Mike Montgomery is a decent 4th DE too. It'd be a waste of a second round pick.
                              I understand but the packers needs arent all that great. Blake is supremely talented and since they have plenty of good players on the d-line already, it lowers the risk with taking him but maximizes the reward.

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