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    started a topic 3 Round Mock Draft by darnik44 (1/15/08)

    3 Round Mock Draft by darnik44 (1/15/08)

    First Round

    01 Miami Dolphins (1-15) - Darren McFadden, HB, Arkansas*

    02 St. Louis Rams (3-13) - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

    03 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

    04 +Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Chris Long, DE, Virginia

    05 +Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) Jake Long, OT Michigan

    06 New York Jets (4-12) - Sedrick Ellis, NT, USC

    07 New England Patriots (from SF (5-11)) - Vernon Gholston, OLB, Ohio State*

    08 Baltimore Ravens (5-11) - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville

    09 Cincinnatti Bengals (7-9) Keith Rivers, OLB, USC

    10 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona

    11 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma*

    12 Denver Broncos (7-9) - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami*

    13 Carolina Panthers (7-9) - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh

    14 Chicago Bears (7-9) - Michael Oher OT/OG, Mississippi*

    15 Detroit Lions (7-9) - Jonathan Stewert, HB, Oregon*

    16 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Rashard Mendenhall, HB, Illinois*

    17 Minnesota Vikings (8-8) - Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky

    18 Houston Texans (8-8) - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State*

    19 Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) - Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida

    20 Dallas Cowboys (from CLE (10-6)) - Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas*

    21 Washington Redskins (9-7) Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*

    22 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) - Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan*

    23 Tennessee Titans (10-6) - Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri

    24 Seattle Seahawks (10-6) - Felix Jones, HB, Arkansas*

    25 Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) Sam Baker, OT, USC

    26 New York Giants (10-6) - Dan Connor, OLB, Penn State

    27 San Diego Chargers (11-5) - Curtis Lofton, ILB, Oklahoma*

    28 Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy

    29 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) - Pat Sims, NT, Auburn*

    30 San Francisco (from IND (13-3)) Kentwan Balmer, DE, North Carolina

    31 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Shawn Crable, OLB/DE, Michigan

    32 New England Patriots (16-0) - FORFEIT

    Second Round

    33 Miami Dolphins (1-15) - DeMario Pressley, DE, N.C. State

    34 St. Louis Rams (3-13) - Eric Young, OG/OT, Tennessee

    35 New York Jets (4-12) - Quentin Groves, OLB, Auburn

    36 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Dre Moore, DT/DE, Maryland

    37 +Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Early Doucet, WR, LSU

    38 +Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College

    39 Baltimore Ravens (5-11) - Chris Ellis, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech

    40 San Francisco 49ers (5-11) - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas

    41 Detroit Lions (7-9) - Erin Henderson, OLB/ILB, Maryland*

    42 Cincinnatti Bengals (7-9) Fred Davis, TE, USC

    43 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida*

    44 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU

    45 Denver Broncos (7-9) - Kevin Smith, HB, Central Florida*

    46 Carolina Panthers (7-9) - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson*

    47 Chicago Bears (7-9) - James Hardy, WR, Indiana*

    48 Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) - Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State

    49 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin*

    50 Minnesota Vikings (8-8) - Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech*

    51 Atlanta Falcons (from HOU (8-8)) - Anthony Collins, OT, Kansas*

    52 Cleveland Browns (10-6) - Marcus Harrison, NT, Arkansas

    53 Washington Redskins (9-7) Dwight Lowry, CB, San Jose State

    54 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) - Chad Henne, QB, Michigan

    55 Tennessee Titans (10-6) - Jonathan Goff, ILB, Vanderbilt

    56 Seattle Seahawks (10-6) - John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame

    57 Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State*

    58 New York Giants (10-6) - Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon State

    59 Miami Dolphins (from SD (11-5)) - Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson

    60 Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville

    61 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M*

    62 Indianapolis Colts (13-3) - Chris Williams, OT/OG, Vanderbilt

    63 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) - Ray Rice, HB, Rutgers*

    64 New England Patriots (16-0) - Jerod Mayo, ILB, Tennessee*

    Third Round

    65 Miami Dolphins (1-15) - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State

    66 St. Louis Rams (3-13) - Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC

    67 +New England Patriots (from OAK (4-12)) - Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame

    68 +Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) Philip Wheeler, OLB, Georiga Tech

    69 New York Jets (4-12) - Chilo Rachal, OG, USC

    70 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State

    71 San Francisco 49ers (5-11) - Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware

    72 Buffalo Bills (from BAL (5-11)) - Xavier Adibi, OLB, Virginia Tech

    73 Chicago Bears (7-9) - Josh Barrett, S, Arizona State

    74 Detroit Lions (7-9) - Terrell Thomas, CB, USC

    75 Cincinnatti Bengals (7-9) Frank Okam, DT, Texas

    76 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU

    77 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Duane Brown, OG, Virginia Tech

    78 Minnesota Vikings (from DEN (7-9)) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

    79 Carolina Panthers (7-9) - Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon

    80 Houston Texans (8-8) - Jamaal Charles, HB, Texas*

    81 Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) - Jamie Silva, S, Boston College

    82 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Bruce Davis, OLB/DE,. UCLA

    83 Minnesota Vikings (8-8) - Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State

    84 Cleveland Browns (10-6) - Chris Johnson, HB, East Carolina

    85 Washington Redskins (9-7) Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan*

    86 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) - Steve Slaton, HB, West Virginia*

    87 Tennessee Titans (10-6) - Davone Bess, WR, Hawaii*

    88 Seattle Seahawks (10-6) - Craig Steltz, S, LSU

    89 Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) Adam Speiker, C, Missouri

    90 New York Giants (10-6) - Trae Williams, CB, South Florida

    91 Chicago Bears (from SD (11-5)) - Erik Ainge, QB, Tennessee

    92 Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - Darrell Robertson, DE, Georgia Tech

    93 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Marcus Griffin, S, Texas

    94 Indianapolis Colts (13-3) - Jonal Saint-Dic, DE, Michigan State

    95 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) - Tony Hills, OT, Texas

    96 New England Patriots (16-0) - Jacob Hester, FB, LSU
    Last edited by darnik44two; 01-16-2008, 10:02 AM.

  • LonghornsLegend
    Originally posted by darnik44two View Post
    It's just my personal opinion that the Dolphins will take McFadden. I'm not going to change my opinion because basically nobody agrees with me. Sorry you don't like the pick but when I make a mock I make it show what I think will happen, not what everyone hopes happens.
    I know its not my team, but if you claim to have watched football and the draft for so long, then you should know Parcells doesnt like taking a rb in the first, let alone with the first pick of the draft...You dont remember him passing Steven Jackson, when Dallas had no back whatsoever? And waiting rounds later to take Julius Jones, he is not taking McFadden first to build his team, thats not even how Parcells thinks and I dont get what would make you think that from watching the draft so many years...

    And as far as Dallas most picks are ok but I dont like the Ray Rice pick, doesnt fit in well in our offense or with Barber...too many other backs that fit in better

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  • G-Men88
    The Giants need to address DB in the first 2 rounds and IMO the 1st round. Don't like this mock from a Giants standpoint.

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  • lost33cause
    I like all the picks except in round 1. I don't like Kieth Rivers at all. We also don't have needs at the WSLB spot. We have Dhani Jones and Johnson. Both are quality Lbers and we are in talks with both agents.

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  • TitanHope
    I completely understand not having the time to write explanations. They can take quite a long time. But, my only criticism was that I thought it was silly that your initial mock seemed so basic, yet you carry yourself like you have superior knowledge over your critics. It's like Michaelangelo painting a stick figure, and saying that he is still one of the greatest artists of all time.

    I never once said your rankings were bad. I never once said that you should comform with Scott and the general community's rankings. You didn't comprehend my other posts, and think that I am criticizing your ways. That is not the case. I am criticizing your methods, not your madness (Not literally madness, though).

    You post a mock that is very plain, and has no explanations. You claim that pre-combine, etc. mocks don't require explanations, and then claim that you are one of the few people here who know how the NFL Draft works. And then you carry yourself as if your knowledge of the players exceeds anyone else's. When in fact, your mock doesn't display any sign of your brilliance, and thus is nothing special. I don't understand it.

    My point is, when you don't care enough to be thorough with your Mocks, even if they are posted early, why should anyone think that you know as much as you do?

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  • darnik44two
    Originally posted by TitanHope View Post
    Nevermind. You're failing to understand my point, and I'm not going to continue to beat a dead horse.
    You don't get my point. 75% of the mocks on here have no anyalysis. Have you critisized them? I run my the draft section at an NFL site and I have a pretty heavy workload with that, along with the business I own and my 4 kids. I just can't put analysis everytime I have an inkling to do a mock. Most of my picks the reasons are self explanatory anyways. Your Titans pick was one of few that wasn't self explanatory. Like I said, I'll have anyalysis with my mocks when the draft nears, and they will be graphical masterpieces as well.

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  • TitanHope
    Originally posted by darnik44two
    You are actually critisizing me for scouting players on my own and not just copying someone's rankings and then putting it into a mock. To add to that you imply I should throw my opinion out the window and go with the populus on my picks...what's the point? I'm glad now I didn't spend a ton of time on that mock because a couple more underclassmen declared since I made it. I know the difference between explanations and a scouting report. You asked a question about Rucker and my brief explanation wasn't enough for you so I gave you a scouting report. Honestly, check the other mocks. Not many have explanations, and just about 100% of them follow suit with Scott's rankings and all look nearly the same. I honestly think explanations are a waste of time prior to the combine. As you can see, I'm more than happy to answer anyone's questions.
    Nevermind. You're failing to understand my point, and I'm not going to continue to beat a dead horse.

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  • 619
    Raiders draft looks solid. If Long were to fall into our laps I think its a no-brainer really and Doucet in the second is great value and provides Russell with a familiar target he can rely on heavily over the next few years as they progress together.

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  • rockio42
    DMAC is not going to the Dolphins, and the Rams wont take Dorsey, they either take Chris, Jake Long, or Gholston. And Manningham isnt worth it for the Bucs they take Jackson.

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  • iloxygenil
    We'll see what happens but I don't want Matt Ryan in Atlanta. I wouldn't be too pleased with this draft...but its good to see someone getting the point that we have to rebuild our lines.

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  • EdReedUnstoppable
    Dont like this Ravens draft at all, Brian Brohm is the worst possible QB for us, I'd rather have Antoine Cason, Mike Jenkins, or even Andre Woodson before Brohm.

    And in rd 2 give us Erin Henderson.

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  • etk
    Originally posted by darnik44two View Post
    For one, I'm one of the few here who understand how the draft works. All you hear are team needs. That's not how it works. Just because I make graphics, don't think I don't know football. I've been making graphics for 15 months, but I've watched football for 25 years and followed the draft for 18 years. Way too many of you think teams go into the draft saying CB in the 1st, WR in the 2nd, DT in the 3rd and so on. There are alot of knowledable people here and that's why I come here. I've never said one word about having a problem with what Scott says. I did say too many here make his opinion their opinion and call it gospel. Slaton is a steal there, and Henne is a good QB. I bet you like him after the senior bowl when Scott probably shoots him up his board. I only attack those who use the words vomit and horrible in their responses. By the way, player position identification is a strenth of mine, again it's not always along the lines of main stream thinking, but I'm usually dead on. Another example from last year was me saying Lawrence Timmons was no 3-4 OLB. He didn't make it through 2 weeks of practice before the Steelers realized that.
    1. Scott actually likes Henne, seeing how he has him ranked #5, and he had him ahead of Brennan at one point. I also agree that he will see his Scott improve at the Senior Bowl, because many aren't aware of how good his downfield arm is. I don't like Henne as a prospect for our offense, though, especially not in the 2nd round when we have other needs (DE, DT, CB). He doesn't move around well in the pocket and his accuracy is spotty across the middle. He throws a nice deep ball/fade, but that's a very small part of our offense. We need QBs who can make quick decisions, throw accurate short, and avoid pass rushers. Henne's a better pick than Slaton but bad nonetheless.
    2. Slaton is not a steal for us. We have 2 solid backs in Graham and Cadillac, and he doesn't fit our system. Our offense involves power running, and very rarely do we open the kind of holes to take advantage of Slaton's skills. He would be a waste on our offense.
    3. Kudos to you on Lawrence Timmons. I felt the same way about him and I thought Woodley would have a much greater impact. You keep bringing up Pittsburgh examples in your arguments, however, and that doesn't prove much to me. I could easily tell you anything about the Bucs or Canes...what's important is whether or not you know the systems, needs and fits of the 32 different teams. Your creativity in player rankings shows you have knowledge and unique opinion on prospects, but your mock shows you don't quite know how to match those players to teams.
    4. It's true that many posters here treat Scott/Kiper's rankings as gospel, but I'm far from one of them, so don't include me in your generalizations. I could post my positional rankings and you'd be surprised by my choices.
    5. I probably overreacting in attacking your mock, sorry.

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  • thebow305
    Originally posted by darnik44two View Post
    It's just my personal opinion that the Dolphins will take McFadden. I'm not going to change my opinion because basically nobody agrees with me. Sorry you don't like the pick but when I make a mock I make it show what I think will happen, not what everyone hopes happens.
    Well, I have to say, I commend you for making a decision and sticking to it, and not being swayed by outside influences. I have done the same with Vernon Gholston and swear he will be the pick, until he either is, or I am proved wrong on the day of the draft.

    I was one of the first, if not the first, to propose the idea that Gholston might be the pick and have been almost stubborn to the fact.

    As you may remember, I did this last year with Ted Ginn Jr.

    Everyone thought I was crazy, but I just had a gut feeling about it, and I didn't really know why, but as the draft drew closer it got clearer and clearer to be that he would indeed be the pick and soon everyone would know it.

    And you know how that worked out.....

    That being said, I strongly disagree that McFadden will be selected by the 'Phins, unless he is ultimately used as trade bait, I just don't see it happening. Like I said, Vernon Gholston will be the pick.

    Thank you for the input though. I like to hear what other people have to say about the pick this year.

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  • Rich Jr

    Round 1) BPA=Kenny Phillips

    Round 2) Chevis Jackson

    Round 3) Adrian Arrington- He fills a WR need (we only have Coltson and Meachem currently under contract) and a return need. Highsmith would be a dream but he'll be gone long before the 3rd.

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  • tjsunstein
    I like Crable in the first. Hes most likely going to turn into our pass rush man like KGB is now being that hes lost a step its seemed and may rotate with Poppinga depending on his developement in training camp/preseason. However, Im not a fan of Bennett in the second. If we could somehow address the secondary there in favor of Terrell Thomas or Rodgers-Cromartie and get a recieving tight end or possibly Tony Mills in the 3rd I'd be all for this draft.

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