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    01. Miami - Chris Long, DE/OLB, Virginia
    Looking at Parcells to go with a slight surprise here...probably doesn't have the value to go first overall in a 2-gap scheme as a downlineman...but with Parcells successful conversion of Greg Ellis to SOLB he takes a chance in a guy who is athletic enough to make the transition. I think Parcells looks to move out hard…but no buyers cause him to go with his guy.

    02. St. Louis - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
    STL could probably go a different direction here...but Dorsey is too good of value to pass up.

    03. Oakland - Trade
    Oakland is a hard pick to peg...this is probably just a bit to high for Ellis and McFadden is my #1 prospect. Even with the emergence of Fargas find it hard to believe you can pass on a runner like McFadden. But after all that thought I think Oakland and “their new leader” might just look to add a couple more pieces…so they go looking for a trade.

    Trade****
    Oakland gets: #5 and #59 and a 2nd day pick along with future 2nd
    Kansas City gets: #3


    03. Kansas City - Jake Long, OT, Michigan
    Long is a bit underrated but is the perfect fit for the Chiefs, my only concern is what happens with a new OL coach coming in scheme wise. Kansas City moves up to jump Atlanta who might just take their guy.

    04. Atlanta – Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
    Ellis might just be too good of a UT to pass on. While I don’t think that UT is as big of a need as OL or QB I think that DL talent is recent years have proved to trump the afore mentioned. With a new organization set up and Mike Smith being a firm believer in interior DL shutting down the run this pick just makes too much sense…Ellis only proved his stock as a top 5 pick in the senior bowl and hold enough value here to go top 5. With Long off the board I think this pick is a little easier…McFadden is tempting…but there are bigger needs to address.

    05. Oakland - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

    Oakland moves down and picks up a couple more picks to address some defensive needs…but McFadden this late is just too good to pass on. McFadden can give the offense a dynamic playmaker who can take the game-planning to the next step and make the QB job easier.

    06. New York Jets - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State
    The Jets luck out a bit and get a edge rusher out of the top 5. Gholston can be "that guy" in the 3-4 for them.

    07. New England (from San Francisco) - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
    Big projection here...but come post combine/pro-day I think we'll all have McKelvin in out top 10's. He just has that rare combination of speed to mix with decent size and good run support.

    08. Baltimore - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
    Baltimore probably has more pressing needs...but the top QB on the board and a new coach coming in probably wants to get his guy.

    09. Cincinnati – Keith Rivers, OLB, USC
    Cincinnati has failed to establish an identity in their front seven for as long as I can remember…and they’ve gone heavy into the secondary the past couple of drafts….time to add a big time player to their front seven. Smith is a nice guy on the edge…but they could use a guy that can make plays sideline to sideline…Rivers falls into that category. I’m not sure Rivers warrants the 9th pick at this point…but he isn’t far off of a prospect as Ernie Sims was…so with a good showing at the combine and his great senior bowl…top 10 might not be that hard to believe.

    10. New Orleans - Trade
    Another year New Orleans misses out on a top LB in the first round...not that there is any value here in the first place but corner value here is really solid...Jenkins might be hard to let pass…but lets not forget that Young was brought in last year and McKensie played as well last year as he ever has... so I think the Saints look for a buyer here.
    Trade*****
    New Orleans gets: #16 #80 and Future 3rd
    Arizona gets: #10

    10. Arizona - Mike Jenkins, CB, USF
    Arizona moves up to get arguably the top corner in this draft at pick 10…that alone is a steal in this class. But with the rumors of Rolle moving to FS…CB is just too big of a need to look anywhere else. The need and value is just too much to pass on here.

    11. Buffalo - Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
    Might be a little high for Talib...but if he does run a sub 4.45 like the rumors say I think top 15 isn't a huge reach with his size...a great fit in the cover 2 here.

    12. Denver - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami
    I was tempted to go a couple of different positions here...but Phillips just has too high of a ceiling for Denver to pass on.

    13. Carolina – Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
    Carolina has so much talent on the DL yet they still can’t perform. They really could use someone who could occasionally give Peppers a few one on one looks…and Harvey might be the best pure rusher in the class. Harvey’s stock looks to be on the rise and top 15 doesn’t look like a reach much anymore. Harvey would sit nice on the DL opposite of Peppers and solve that revolving hole that seems to be the RDE spot every year.

    14. Chicago – Jeffrey Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
    Now I’m not sure that I buy Otah going over Clady on draft day but Otah has the mean streak that seems to run in Chicago for offensive-lineman. Otah is a huge bear and would be able to step in day one on the right side….plus he still has the athletic ability to be worked in as the LT of the future which is probably what trumps this pick. Otah isn’t being talked about a lot right now but he just screams Chicago lineman to me.

    15. Detroit – Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
    This pick is simple….and they lucked out big time…Clady is a top shelf LT prospect and the only reason he falls this far is due to need/fit. Not much more to explain but if Clady is on the board on draft day I think it’s safe to say this pick is a lock.

    16. New Orleans – Dan Connor, LB, Penn State
    After passing on top LB’s seemingly year after year…they are about in the perfect position to land Connor. Connor might be a slight reach here…but on the field he’ll warrant this selection…Connor is a guy who can instantly come in and be a leader on this defense.

    17. Minnesota - Christopher Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
    Bit of a surprise to me...But Williams might just be the answer on the right side...although the right side of the line slowly improved towards the end of the year...Williams just has too much talent to pass.

    18. Houston - Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
    Orginially I had Baker going here...but the running game cost this team a playoff chance along with some injuries...Mendenhall is rated as my 2nd back...and really think he can be a big time NFL back..so while the system believes backs can be found later the value is just too good here.

    19. Philadelphia - Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
    OL was a thought here but just didn't see the match since it's somewhat depleted. Kelly could probably step on the field right away and give McNabb a target who can seperate from coverage...TE was also a slight thought.

    20. Tampa Bay - DeSean Jackson, WR, California
    I really don't see Jackson falling this far in the draft...post workouts I look for him to be a top 15 lock...but with the slight weight concerns...and the disappointing senior campaign maybe this is about the right position for him.

    21. Washington - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
    This pick is hard to peg since no coach is set…but with the rumors speculating and pointing to Sprags…Merling just makes too much sense here. Merling could be the top DE in this draft…but probably should have stayed another year which could have put him in contention for a top 10 selection. Merling could go top 10 this year with solid workouts…but I think this is where he ends up.

    22. Dallas (from Cleveland) - Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State University
    Talk about a guy who helped himself at the senior bowl…DRC came in with some concerns and shattered them all….while his stock probably isn’t this high yet….don’t forget that DRC is also a track star and will only impress more as offseason workouts go on. While DRC probably isn’t as highly touted as guys like Lee or Porter, DRC seems like an ideal fit in Phillip’s scheme and pick makes a lot of sense.

    23. Pittsburgh – TRADE
    This is a team the could go a couple different directions but I think that OL is probably the biggest need and no value is really here….so they look for a trade partner.
    TRADE***
    Pitssburgh gets: #31, #95, future 3rd
    New York Giants gets: 23

    23. New York Giants – Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
    Porter is a guy who I think many of you will be surprised to see this high right now…but Porter is silky smooth and his stock is slowly rising…by draft day this may be too low to get him…but Porter is probably rated as the 3rd CB in the draft right now..and getting him this late in the first is a steal. While CB probably isn’t the biggest need…it has huge depth concerns…and who knows if Webster plans on coming back to earth..bottomline is Porter is going to hold tons of value here and is worth the move.

    24. Tennessee – Patrick Lee, CB, Auburn
    A bit of a shocker here…but WR/TE depth is good in this draft…and there really isn’t any value here in my view. Lee is another guy who seems to be going under the radar…he opened some eyes at the senior bowl and covered everyone he went up against…with good workouts…top 25 isn’t out of the picture…and with the rumors speculating around Pacman insurance policy may be necessary.

    25. Seattle - Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
    Not sure if I can buy RB over TE...but it seems every year I address the TE position and every year it stays the same...Stewart would thrive in Seattle and already has the fan base.

    26. Jacksonville – Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
    This is a hard one to peg…and I’m not sure if I buy Campbell as a first round pick right now…but this might be a classic case of upside outweighing value. Mike Smith departing might be something to look into…but another young WR doesn’t look to solve anything and really no value here as of now.

    27. San Diego – Gosder Cherilus, RT, Boston College
    I’m not sure I like the pick…and think that Reggie Smith might be the better pick..but just can’t justify going secondary this early yet again. Florence leaving is going to hurt…but with no more picks on the first day…the OT depth drop off is just too big to miss out on.

    28. Dallas – TRADE
    Not sure I buy Dallas going RB this early with the rumors that MB3 is going to be getting a 30 million dollar contract..and WR value is still weak here…I think they look to trade down.
    Trade***
    Dallas gets: #33, #65, future 4th
    Miami gets: #28, Bobby Carpenter, Jason Ferguson

    28. Miami - Sam Baker, OT, USC
    Miami gets a slight steal here...this pick reminds me a lot of Jacob Rogers from USC back when Parcells was with the cowboys..a guy who should probably go in the top 20 falls out…now Parcells hardly ever moves up on draft day…but attaining a ILB and starting NT might just be enough to bring up the move…not to mention the steelers sitting in front of them with a need for a OT. Now Baker isn’t an elite talent..but he can step in immediately and give a reliable LT to protect whoever is QB’ing opening day…Baker has bloodlines which is something else Parcells seems to like.

    29. San Francisco (from Indianapolis) – Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida
    After the senior bowl I find it hard to believe any WR proved more to Nolan and Martz than Caldwell. Caldwell was the best south WR all week and really shined. Caldwell probably isn’t quite a first round talent…but the ties and strong postseason workouts could put him right about here on value…I just about went Doucet here..but those injury concerns are hard to ignore.

    30. Green Bay – Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa
    Godfrey is yet another guy who boosted his stock at the senior bowl. Godfrey’s stock is rising and with rumored 4.3 speed could see the first round. He is a physical pac-10 guy that might just be enough to make the packers jump.

    31. Pittsburgh – Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska
    This pick might cause a couple people to scratch their head…but OT is a big need for the steelers..and could be the reason for the downfall down the stretch with injuries…Starks is up for FA and Nicks could probably step up and play LT right away...and play right side if needed.
    Last edited by thule; 01-27-2008, 05:15 AM.

  • #2
    Can't argue with the trade for the Cards but where is Jonathan Stewart? I have to believe that a team would trade up for him in the late first, although I see you missed Seattle - was he going to go there?

    If not, I could easily see the Cards doing a Jets and giving up a lot for Jenkins and Stewart. That would really be an outstanding draft.
    Will post for +rep.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by UK Cards Fan View Post
      Can't argue with the trade for the Cards but where is Jonathan Stewart? I have to believe that a team would trade up for him in the late first, although I see you missed Seattle - was he going to go there?

      If not, I could easily see the Cards doing a Jets and giving up a lot for Jenkins and Stewart. That would really be an outstanding draft.
      oops nice catch...yup he went to seattle.

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      • #4
        Thule don't you think there's a few too many corners going in the first? I agree there's a talented DB class in this draft but seven corners (and one safety, making a total of eight defensive backs) in the first round seems a bit unlikely. I do like the lions pick.

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        • #5
          Meh, Im not liking the Ravens pick but Its very posssible that is who we will pick if Harbaugh isnt willing to give Troy a chance, but I would rather see us going for a DE like Campbell or Gholston or a Ot like Ryan Clady

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          • #6
            ok phins pick

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            • #7
              KC will NEVER make a trade with Oakland and Long is not worth gving up that much for anyway

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              • #8
                15. Detroit – Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
                This pick is simple….and they lucked out big time…Clady is a top shelf LT prospect and the only reason he falls this far is due to need/fit. Not much more to explain but if Clady is on the board on draft day I think it’s safe to say this pick is a lock.
                I support this pick personally, but I don't think the Lions will take an OT come draft day. I think they are going to re-sign Damien Woody to play RT, and they will look to add to the offensive line later in the draft. I think our 1st rounder will be a defensive player. But with the way the draft fell in this mock, Clady would be the best pick, IMO.
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                • #9
                  Absolutely terrible. I don't know many times I've had to say it: the current group of targets Vince has to throw to is the worst in the league; anything other than a wide receiver or a tight end in the first round is completely 100 percent illogical.

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                  • #10
                    I like Talib. I wouldnt mind Kelly or Connor there either.


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                    • #11
                      i like the SD pick

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                      • #12
                        terrible giants trade...also no way porter at this point is worth the 20th pick in the draft
                        id much rather take reggie smith or even rodgers-cromartie @ 31

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                        • #13
                          30. Green Bay – Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa
                          Godfrey is yet another guy who boosted his stock at the senior bowl. Godfrey’s stock is rising and with rumored 4.3 speed could see the first round. He is a physical pac-10 guy that might just be enough to make the packers jump.
                          Big Ten ;)

                          Good pick though.

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                          • #14
                            The more I think about it, the more I hate any corner going #7. There is not a single corner in this draft worthy of being a top 10 pick, let alone #7.

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                            • #15
                              Ellis would be a NT for us.

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