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    http://mymockdraft.com/8867/Review.aspx

    This took a few days to make and some cuts came in the middle of this so sorry if it isn't 100 percent accurate.

  • #2
    I like KC's draft.I can see us taking 2 CB's though if both Surtain and Law get cut

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    • #3
      interesting.....long.....

      few issues with the bears draft:

      given the situation in the first round, chris williams would be the bears pick at OT or they could go stewart/mendenhall. either would be preferable. Also, dont forget hester is on offense now and HE is their big play threat already. he was being worked in more and more towards the end of the year and will likely be worked in much much more next year.

      in round 2, with both flacco and woodson gone, i would prefer to see OT or RB addressed since neither got it in round 1. i just dont like henne, reminds of a less jumpy rex basically. id rather just hang on and go him in the 3rd if hes there or josh johnson.

      jamal charles works in the third, but his buddy from texas hills doesnt do it for me. the guys a stick figure of an OT at 6'6 305. needs some mass which can be added but im not sure you realize just how bad fred miller was last year. they need an OT who can play right away there so there wouldnt be time for development/bulking up for him

      in 4...hall...hall....hmm. lber depth behind urlacher and hillenmeyer is lacking, ill admit, but ehhh.....alright

      5=dt good
      6=G good
      7=fb eh....alright, since its 7 i dont care....

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      • #4
        Wow that'd be a dumb trade for Dallas.



        The first two picks for Green Bay were good, but I didn't like what you gave us after that.

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        • #5
          Pretty good mock for the Vikings but they need to grab a DE in round 1 Calais Campbell or Phillip Merling. And I prefer John David Booty over Erik Ainge in round 4.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
            interesting.....long.....

            few issues with the bears draft:

            given the situation in the first round, chris williams would be the bears pick at OT or they could go stewart/mendenhall. either would be preferable. Also, dont forget hester is on offense now and HE is their big play threat already. he was being worked in more and more towards the end of the year and will likely be worked in much much more next year.

            in round 2, with both flacco and woodson gone, i would prefer to see OT or RB addressed since neither got it in round 1. i just dont like henne, reminds of a less jumpy rex basically. id rather just hang on and go him in the 3rd if hes there or josh johnson.

            jamal charles works in the third, but his buddy from texas hills doesnt do it for me. the guys a stick figure of an OT at 6'6 305. needs some mass which can be added but im not sure you realize just how bad fred miller was last year. they need an OT who can play right away there so there wouldnt be time for development/bulking up for him

            in 4...hall...hall....hmm. lber depth behind urlacher and hillenmeyer is lacking, ill admit, but ehhh.....alright

            5=dt good
            6=G good
            7=fb eh....alright, since its 7 i dont care....
            You call Hills a stick figure because he's 6'6 305. Yet your LT John Tait is listed at 6'6 312. Fred Miller who has been your RT for a bunch of years is 6'7 314. You don't think Hills can put on 7 pounds in a few months of training before the season? Plus Hills is one of the more athletic OTs in the draft. Not sure where your coming from on him. You keep stating on the need for OTs wanting Chris Williams in the 1st but Chris Williams is a huge monster at OT and the Bears tend to go with slimmer more athletic OTs instead of maulers like Williams. Just not sure on your line of thinking there because Hills fits your team's style and philsophy much better then Williams.

            Also, I know you worked Hester in on offense but I watched Hester play at Miami for years. I love him but he's got some things that are gonna keep him from being a complete package on offense the way DeSean Jackson can be. Hester's hands just aren't there and he has trouble with his routes. He can take short passes a long way but he's not gonna go over the middle or down the field the way DeSean Jackson can.

            Thanks for the input tho.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GB12 View Post
              Wow that'd be a dumb trade for Dallas.
              Just used the rumored deal to change up the top of the draft. Shake things up some. Miami isn't taking DMC 1st so people have a general idea on the 1st 5 picks. But if Dallas moves up and takes DMC 1st, it shakes up the top 5 a little and makes it interesting. Just wanted to moves things around some.

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              • #8
                pretty happy with the patriots draft. dont really like the slaton pick though. even if he is picked up i highly doubt it would be that early.

                the bills mock was pretty good aswell.

                the one that stood out the most was the dlphins one. man, i dont think one team could have a better draft than that.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Billingsley26 View Post
                  pretty happy with the patriots draft. dont really like the slaton pick though. even if he is picked up i highly doubt it would be that early.

                  the bills mock was pretty good aswell.

                  the one that stood out the most was the dlphins one. man, i dont think one team could have a better draft than that.
                  We'll I'm a Dolphins fans so naturally I have a better feel for their needs then that of the others. And having alot of picks helps a bunch.

                  Quick question tho, did you think they got any unreasonable picks. A know a few guys like Bennett or Hardy could go higher but they also got some guys like Nicks and Rodgers-Cromartie that could go a little lower.

                  The only one I thought was kinda out of place was Erin Henderson but I had alot of LBs fall in general as you can see throughout the draft.

                  I'm kinda curious on this, I try to be as objective as possible but it's not always the easiest thing to do.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
                    You call Hills a stick figure because he's 6'6 305. Yet your LT John Tait is listed at 6'6 312. Fred Miller who has been your RT for a bunch of years is 6'7 314. You don't think Hills can put on 7 pounds in a few months of training before the season? Plus Hills is one of the more athletic OTs in the draft. Not sure where your coming from on him. You keep stating on the need for OTs wanting Chris Williams in the 1st but Chris Williams is a huge monster at OT and the Bears tend to go with slimmer more athletic OTs instead of maulers like Williams. Just not sure on your line of thinking there because Hills fits your team's style and philsophy much better then Williams.

                    Also, I know you worked Hester in on offense but I watched Hester play at Miami for years. I love him but he's got some things that are gonna keep him from being a complete package on offense the way DeSean Jackson can be. Hester's hands just aren't there and he has trouble with his routes. He can take short passes a long way but he's not gonna go over the middle or down the field the way DeSean Jackson can.

                    Thanks for the input tho.
                    i think that tait and miller were probably playing a bit heavier than listed.

                    now obviously this can't measure things like muscle vs fat, but i have sort of a mental formula i use when thinking about OTs. if i set 6'5 and 310 as height and weight, each inch after that i would like to see 5 pound added. so ideally, a 6'6 player would be at least 315 in my eyes. but my second point with hills you didnt touch. the bears really badly need a replacement for miller right now. theres no one already on the roster worth mentioning and the FA market is a bit dry in the decent OT area. thats gotta be addressed with the first 2 picks.

                    also, williams has major potential at LT which tait might suffice at for another year or so, but he could definitely start at RT or even guard right away. his potential on the left side is the best thing he has going for him and i think by draft time, hes going to eclipse otah as the pick i want most for the bears

                    and then about jackson...you know, i just can't justify not going OT or RB with that pick given whos available. hes going to take some development to become the complete deal and the bears dont have that kind of time. his biggest contribution would be as a KR right away and um...we have that covered. you could argue put them both back there so one of them gets the chance to return it, but i dont think that adds enough to his value to overtake mendenhall or stewart as the pick if not williams

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
                      We'll I'm a Dolphins fans so naturally I have a better feel for their needs then that of the others. And having alot of picks helps a bunch.

                      Quick question tho, did you think they got any unreasonable picks. A know a few guys like Bennett or Hardy could go higher but they also got some guys like Nicks and Rodgers-Cromartie that could go a little lower.

                      The only one I thought was kinda out of place was Erin Henderson but I had alot of LBs fall in general as you can see throughout the draft.

                      I'm kinda curious on this, I try to be as objective as possible but it's not always the easiest thing to do.
                      Well, I think that James Hardy will go a lot higher. With a great combine, which I am expecting, I think he could be a first rounder. Other than that, it was pretty good. I think DRC is going wow some more people at the combine, and I wouldnt be surprised if a team needs to reach for him. I could definately see LB's drop a lot. As they seem to do every year. Henderson could easily fall, and thats no knock against him. Great job all around.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                        i think that tait and miller were probably playing a bit heavier than listed.

                        now obviously this can't measure things like muscle vs fat, but i have sort of a mental formula i use when thinking about OTs. if i set 6'5 and 310 as height and weight, each inch after that i would like to see 5 pound added. so ideally, a 6'6 player would be at least 315 in my eyes. but my second point with hills you didnt touch. the bears really badly need a replacement for miller right now. theres no one already on the roster worth mentioning and the FA market is a bit dry in the decent OT area. thats gotta be addressed with the first 2 picks.

                        also, williams has major potential at LT which tait might suffice at for another year or so, but he could definitely start at RT or even guard right away. his potential on the left side is the best thing he has going for him and i think by draft time, hes going to eclipse otah as the pick i want most for the bears

                        and then about jackson...you know, i just can't justify not going OT or RB with that pick given whos available. hes going to take some development to become the complete deal and the bears dont have that kind of time. his biggest contribution would be as a KR right away and um...we have that covered. you could argue put them both back there so one of them gets the chance to return it, but i dont think that adds enough to his value to overtake mendenhall or stewart as the pick if not williams
                        I know what your saying on Miller. He was awful, I just don't see him being replaced in the draft. I see them signing a stop gab type player for a couple years and taking a 2/3 rounder this year and next year to develop at those spots. The Bears generally don't like to throw OL into the fire as rookies.

                        And I know what your saying about Mendenhall as well, also just not sure they are willing to go 1st round RBs 2 of the last 5 years. Thats alot of money to be spending on that spot and I'm not sure they are 100 percent done with Benson yet, again I can see a 2nd/3rd round guy coming in behind Benson to push him and take the job next year if he tanks one final time in Chicago.

                        Thanks for the input tho, those are just my thoughts but I'll definately tweak my next one to take your input into consideration. You definately have a better feel for the Bears then I do.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Billingsley26 View Post
                          Well, I think that James Hardy will go a lot higher. With a great combine, which I am expecting, I think he could be a first rounder. Other than that, it was pretty good. I think DRC is going wow some more people at the combine, and I wouldnt be surprised if a team needs to reach for him. I could definately see LB's drop a lot. As they seem to do every year. Henderson could easily fall, and thats no knock against him. Great job all around.
                          I'm not sure Hardy will go that high to make it to the 1st. He is definately in a league of his own because of height but there are alot of good WRs in the draft after the top 2 of Kelly and Jackson. Sweed, Hardy, Thomas, Manningham, Doucet, Hawkins and Caldwell could all go anywhere in the 2nd and I actually wouldn't be surprised to see someone from that group slide to the 3rd.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
                            I know what your saying on Miller. He was awful, I just don't see him being replaced in the draft. I see them signing a stop gab type player for a couple years and taking a 2/3 rounder this year and next year to develop at those spots. The Bears generally don't like to throw OL into the fire as rookies.

                            And I know what your saying about Mendenhall as well, also just not sure they are willing to go 1st round RBs 2 of the last 5 years. Thats alot of money to be spending on that spot and I'm not sure they are 100 percent done with Benson yet, again I can see a 2nd/3rd round guy coming in behind Benson to push him and take the job next year if he tanks one final time in Chicago.

                            Thanks for the input tho, those are just my thoughts but I'll definately tweak my next one to take your input into consideration. You definately have a better feel for the Bears then I do.
                            actually, theres a big debate raging over on the bears forum about the oline. im on the side that we should try and avoid more stop gap veterans since the ones we have now (miller, reuben brown) arent so good anymore and just cost way too much now. the general consensus line of thinking seems to be OT in draft, OG in FA and get the both in there asap for now though. your right though in that they havent been a team that drafts olineman high lately. GM angelo shys away from that for whatever reason...

                            as for the RB, i was of the mindset a few months ago that benson should get another year with a revamped oline. but the consensus over there has become now get someone in there to compete with him and push him at the very least. i have a feeling that unless a reincarnation of walter payton jumps out from the woodwork, benson is going to get every chance in the world to start next year regardless of what we do in the draft/FA with RB

                            and np with the feedback. i know it helps....whether its good or getting reemed out, you at least get a good idea of who wants what

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
                              I'm not sure Hardy will go that high to make it to the 1st. He is definately in a league of his own because of height but there are alot of good WRs in the draft after the top 2 of Kelly and Jackson. Sweed, Hardy, Thomas, Manningham, Doucet, Hawkins and Caldwell could all go anywhere in the 2nd and I actually wouldn't be surprised to see someone from that group slide to the 3rd.
                              I dont think so. I think that both Hardy and Manningham will boost in stock. I think Hardy will go in the first if he runs well, because he definately has the size. Manningham could be a first rounder as well. I woudnt be surprised if he is taken that early. Many teams could be in need of a WR this year, and especially if they boom, then yea, I could see it happening.

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