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    Please, serious replies only. Also, don't get bent out of shape if I favor a certain player than you do at the same position. ie Phillip Merling over Derrick Harvey.

    Thank You.

    1. Miami Dolphins - Sedrick Ellis, NT, Southern California

    Ellis seems to make the most sense to me. Nose tackles are hard to come by and Ellis certainly looks the part. He was dominant at the Senior Bowl and backed up that performance at the combine. He comes from a winnning program at USC and is a competitor. Chris Long or Vernon Gholston don't make sense to me because of the money they would have tied up at the LB position with Jason Taylor and Joey Porter already having big contracts. I'm also unsure how all three would get on the field at the same time. I believe the Matt Ryan rumors are just that, rumors and a possible ploy to get the Atlanta Falcons to try to move up. Jake Long should get some serious consideration here.

    2. St. Louis Rams - Jake Long, OT, Michigan

    There are several direction the Rams could go here. Jake Long showed he's the real deal at the combine and the Rams have a real need at LT with Orlando Pace's HOF career coming to an end. The Rams have invested enough high picks along the DL to make me rule out Glenn Dorsey, Chris Long, and Vernon Gholston. There could be a slim chance they go with Matt Ryan here given the fact they were considering Jay Cutler two years ago. Marc Bulger is good enough and young enough that his job is secure for the near future.

    3. Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

    This is getting closer and closer to being a lock. You can't win in the NFL without a viable starter a QB and the closet is bare for the Falcons. Arthur Blank came right out and said a QB would be the pick, and there's not much argument Ryan is this years top QB. Ryan has been quoted saying Atlanta is a great city and Blank is a good owner. Sure he's going to lobby to be a top 5 pick, I'll be surprised if Ryan isn't their starter next year. I'm sure Darren McFadden will get a look and provided he has a clean bill of health Glenn Dorsey will too. If the Rams pass on Jake Long, things could get interesting here. I could see the Raiders and Chiefs getting in a bidding war to move up.

    4. Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden, HB, Arkansas

    This just seems like an Al Davis type pick. Davis loves speed, and after McFadden's 4.33 40 at the combine McFadden could be a Raider. This might not be the most sensible pick for the Raiders, but after spending last years first pick on JaMarcus Russell the Raiders need to begin building around him. The closet will be full at the RB position and I'm not sure why NFLN calls RB the Raiders biggest need, but this seems a very likely pick. I'm sure Chris Long will get a very long look here, but defense isn't the problem in Oakland.

    5. Kansas City Chiefs - Glenn Dorsey, DT, Louisiana State

    It's going to be interesting how the medical reports play out for Dorsey, but if everything checks out he's too good for the Chiefs to pass on. Not the biggest need the Chiefs have, but that's not what it's all about. It's about getting better players. Dorsey could help tremendously in the Chiefs attempt to play some defense and stop the run. Line him up next to Jared Allen, and opposing offensive coordinators will have nightmares. If Dorsey doesn't check out medically, don't be surprised to see the Chiefs reach for a tackle here and take Ryan Clady.

    6. New York Jets - Vernon Gholston, OLB, Ohio State

    After flipping a coin here to choose between Vernon Gholston and Chris Long, I think Gholston gets the nod because he might be a slightly better OLB prospect and has had experience standing up. If the first 5 picks play out like I have here, I couldn't immagine the Jets taking anyone other than Gholston or Long. If Darren McFadden is still on the board here this pick could get interesting. Not only would McFadden entice the Jets, this could be where teams begin to consider moving up to take McFadden.

    7. New England Patriots - Chris Long, OLB/DE

    Long really seems like a Patriots type of player to me. First and foremost he's a football player. With the Patriots defensive scheme and philosophies they would have several options on how to best utilize his talents. We might even see him catching touchdown passes for the Patriots al la Mike Vrabel. If Vernon Gholston and Long are both somehow still on the board, they may have the same dilema as the Jets. If that's the case, Long seems a better fit to me for what the Patriots look for.

    8. Baltimore Ravens - Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech

    Not my top corner, but I think he will be a lot of teams top corner. Flowers physical style of play would be a good fit for the Ravens defense. The Ravens preference in which CB they like the best could vary here. The Ravens might be a team best served to move down here, I don't see a lot of good options for them here. Probably too high to take a quarterback, I don't see any receivers worth a top 10 pick. Keith Rivers could be a sleeper pick here although I'm not certain he would be an ideal fit to their defense.

    9. Cincinnati Bengals - Keith Rivers, OLB/ILB, Southern California

    Best case scenario for the Bengals in my opinion. Last year they were playing defensive linemen at linebacker and by seasons end the cupboard was bare at the LB position. The Bengals have struggled to stop the run and Rivers could be a move in the right direction. I also think with all the drama the Bengals have had over the last couple years, I think it's important they get players with a winning, competitive attitude. Rivers coming from USC fits that bill in addition to fitting a need. Rivers is also worth every bit of a top 10 pick, and given the right situation one of my early favorites to be next years defensive ROY.

    10. New Orleans Saints - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State

    Not the most exciting or popular pick here, but a sensible one non the less. The Saints have some issues along the offensive line that includes skill and depth. Add to that the inability for the Saints to establish a running game, Clady makes good sense to me. This could be the type of pick that could help the '06 pick of Reggie Bush to begin to pay dividends. Cornerback might be the most glaring need, but it's also a very deep position in this years draft class. Local product Chevis Jackson could be a very good 2nd round pick for them.

    11. Buffalo Bills - Dan Connor, OLB/ILB, Penn State

    Maybe a slight reach here, but the Bills have shown they aren't affraid to reach a bit. They might be best served to try to deal down here, and I'm sure they'll expore their option. They fell in love with Paul Posluszny last year and nearly took him in the first, so I'm sure they love Connor as well. They need an OLB, and why not reunite Connor with Posluszny and solidify the LB positon for years to come? Receiver might be the biggest need the Bills have, but the class is deep and nobody stands out enough to warrent a pick this high.

    12. Denver Broncos - Rashard Mendenhall, HB, Illinois

    Not very characteristic for the Broncos to spend a first on a runningback, but immagine the possibilities with Mendenhall in that offense. The Broncos have had a lot of success running the ball, but have lacked a game-breaker at the position. This will no doubt be an interesting pick. The Broncos like to wheel and deal on draft day and very likely will attempt to do. Kenny Phillips, Kentwan Balmer, a corner, or Ryan Clady (if still on the board) should all get some consideration here. This also could be a spot where we see the first receiver taken, although like I stated with the Bills pick I'm not sure the value matches the slot.

    13. Carolina Panthers - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami

    Good pick here for the Panthers. Safety is a huge need, and Phillips is a boom or bust prospect with a very high ceiling. Phillips can easily step in and start immediatly and will help greatly in solidifying the secondary. An offensive tackle should also get a lot of consideration here as well. If Ryan Clady is still on the board, this could be a tough call for the Panthers.

    14. Chicago Bears - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville

    I know this pick will get some arguments here. Brohm may be a slight reach here, but only by a little in my opinion. I fully expect the Bears to try to deal down here, but for now I'm giving them Brohm. The Bears just signed Rex Grossman to a one year deal and I think that says a lot. The Bears have lacked a viable starter at QB for a long time now and I thinks it's time for change. Many feel they may try to grab a guy like Chad Henne in the 2nd or possibly get Brohm in the 2nd. I feel the need at QB is too big for them to gamble on who may or may not be available in the 2nd. If they are able to move down and pick up another 2nd round pick maybe they do gamble. If they are forced to make a selection at #14, I feel Brohm should and will be the pick. Brohm could be a steal here. His production fell off his senior year, but he was also forced to learn a new system.

    15. Detroit Lions - Jonathan Stewart, HB, Oregon

    I think Stewart will be too good to pass on here. I personally give Stewart a top 10 grade and rank him as my #2 back. His size, speed, and vision all add up to what I expect to be a great NFL running back. Cornerback is the bigger need, but Stewart is a better value. Both cornerback and runningback are very deep positions, but I feel the RB position drops off after McFadden, Stewart, and Mendenhall. A guy like cornerback Patrick Lee could be available in the 2nd round.

    16. Arizona Cardinals - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona

    With the 3 top RB's gone, a cornerback seems to be logical here. Many will argue Cason isn't worth this pick, and I don't understand why. As a technician I put Cason at the head of the class. He's silky smooth in man coverage and possesses great ball skills. Again, this will come down to team preference of which CB to take. I feel they couldn't go wrong with the local guy in Cason. This pick should be popular with the fans which isn't really a consideration, but a definite plus. Chris Williams, Kentwan Balmer, another CB should all get a close look by the Cardinals here.

    17. Minnesota Vikings - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson

    Defensive end was already a need prior to the unfortunate happenings with Keneche Udeze, so now it's become a glaring need. Great value here with Merling, many feel he's worth a top 10 pick. The Vikings would get a well rounded DE in Merling with his ability to play the run and get after the quarterback. This could be a wild card pick here, who knows what to expect from the Vikings on draft day. Part of me is inclined to expect them to make a blunder here, so maybe it won't be Merling. Offensive tackle and cornerback could be a posible pick here as well as a receiver.

    18. Houston Texans - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy

    Many compare McKelvin to Texans cornerback and former first round pick Dunta Robinson, so why not fill a need and get a guy who's a good fit. McKelvin could be a steal if he's still on the board, many feel he's a top 10 pick. McKelvin paired with Robinson could be one of the league's top CB tandems for year to come. McKelvin's biggest knock is his ability to catch the ball, but he get's his hands on the ball as much as anybody. Felix Jones will also be a guy to keep an eye on here, but I'm not sure he's separated himself enough to persuade the Texans to take a back here instead of a little later on. Their absence of a 2nd round pick makes them suspect to attempt dealing down.

    19. Philadelphia Eagles - DeSean Jackson, WR/KR, California

    Receiver is a place the Eagles need some help, and Jackson is the type of playmaker they could really use. In addition to bolstering the receiving core and adding a needed game-breaker to the offense, Jackson fills a need as a return guy as well. I've come to realize though, this pick will totally depend on who Andy Reid has a "man-crush" on this year. The Eagles have made it a habit to overdraft guys, but that wouldn't be the case with Jackson. Based on my board Jackson lines up perfectly at the 19th pick. History suggests the Eagles may try to deal down here as well. Maybe Andy Reid like Chad Henne??

    20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Kentwan Balmer, DT/DE, North Carolina

    I'm sure the Bucs would prefer DeSean Jackson here, and if he's available should be the pick. If not, Balmer would be a solid pick here. I'm big on teams taking picks to help recent top picks, and Balmer could help increase the value and productivity of last year's top pick Gaines Adams. The need at receiver could outweigh the need at DT though and ultimately could be their pick. From a value standpoint, I don't see a receiver who outweighs Balmer though. Chris Williams should get a long hard look as well.

    21. Washington Redskins - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas

    The Redskins have a group of smurfs at the WR position, and Sweed is anything but a smurf. The pick of Sweed here should go a long way in aiding the development of former first round pick Jason Campbell. This could also be the missing piece of the puzzle for the Redskins who have struggled in the red zone to make the step to be legitimate contenders. They could very well choose to address the DL here with Calais Campbell or Derrick Harvey. Kentwan Balmer if available should also get a look. I also think cornerback could be a strong possibility as well.

    22. Dallas Cowboys - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St.

    It's beginning to look like Rodgers-Cromartie may very well be long gone by this pick, but if not I'd call him a lock. After his performance at the Senior Bowl followed by the combine, he may be the most intriguing prospect in this class and probably has the highest ceiling. Jerry Jones loves speed, and the Cowboys have room for improvement in the secondary. Rodgers-Cromartie could be long gone though, he might end up a top 10 pick.

    23. Pittsburgh Steelers - Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State

    This could be an interesting pick here. Obviously the Steelers have a need at the tackle position, but the recent franchise tag placed on tackle Max Starks has lessened the immediate need there. The Steelers have lacked a bigger physical type receiver since losing Plaxico Burress to free agency so much that Ben Roethlisberger put in a request for a tall receiver. While Thomas isn't the tallest of the "big receivers," at nearly 6-3 his ability to run after the catch and ability in the return game makes him the best possible fit. Among the Steelers biggest needs is a viable return man. Prior to the start of last season they traded for Allen Rossum (no longer there), and used Najeh Davenport as a kick returner. If Chris Williams is on the board, this decision will be tough but I expect Thomas to be a Steeler.

    24. Tennessee Titans - Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida

    In a division shared with the Colts, you need to be solid at the CB spot. With PacMan Jones' future uncertain, it may be imparative that the Titans find a lock down corner if they hope to compete with the Colts any time soon. The Titans may choose to address the CB spot via free agency, in which case a receiver could be an option here. If Limas Sweed is still available, I think he will get a lot of consideration. Also a tight end could be an option as well. A sleeper pick here could be Oklahoma ILB Curtis Lofton.

    25. Seattle Seahawks - Felix Jones, HB, Arkansas

    The Seahawks are one of the tougher teams to forecast, but there's no question they need to get the running game back to where it once was. Is Shaun Alexander washed up? I don't know that answer, but I do know he has a lot of miles on him. Felix Jones could be the perfect contrast to Alexander's running style. Tight end can't be ruled out here either.

    26. Jacksonville Jaguars - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida

    For the second straight year the Jags go with a Gator for their first pick. The Jags lack a true pass rushing DE, and Harvey instantly helps their already solid defense. This is another tough pick to figure. I think the versatility of Oklahoma CB/S Reggie Smith will intrigue them much the same last years pick Reggie Nelson did. Like just about every pick in the second half of the first round, I wouldn't rule out Chris Williams if available.

    27. San Diego Chargers - Reggie Smith, S/CB, Oklahoma

    There are so many routes the Chargers could take here. Reggie Smith is a versatile guy who could help the Chargers secondary in so many ways. A unit that used to be the weak link would all of the sudden be a strong point. I could also see them going with Smith's teamate from Oklahoma here and select ILB Curtis Lofton. I also wouldn't rule out Dre Moore who's versatility would greatly help their DL. Moore could be plugged in at DE or NT which are both areas of need and a harder area to fill later on in the draft.

    28. Dallas Cowboys - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt

    If Williams is still on the board, he could be the biggest steal of the first round. Williams has top 15 value but could possibly fall this far. The Cowboys lack depth at the OT position and could land a future all-pro LT here in Williams. The versatile Dre Moore could get a look as well as Reggie Smith if still available or the Cowboys could look to add a receiver here. Jamaal Charles could be a sleeper pick here as well. Honestly though, does anyone expect the Cowboys to make a pick at #22 and #28...I know I don't. Chances are Jerry Jones will strike a deal on draft day and screw up everyone's mock draft.

    29. San Francisco 49ers - James Hardy, WR, Indiana

    A big physical receiver and viable weapon in the red zone could be what the doctor ordered for the 49ers. Alex Smith has struggled and needs more weapons at receiver. With new O.C. Mike Martz in town, I think a receiver can totally be expected here. If they choose to go another route, help along the OL or DL may be in order.

    30. Green Bay Packers - Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas

    After running well at the combine, talib might not be an option here. If he is still available, the packers will be all over him. His ability to play press coverage makes him a good fit for the Packers. With all of the talented corners in this class, the Packers should have no problem landing a good one here if they so choose that route. Don't rule out Shawn Crable or Quentin Groves here. The Packers may also choose to beef up the OL here as well. Branden Albert could be a great pick if all the top corners are taken.

    31. New York Giants - Branden Albert, OG/OT, Virginia

    The Giants had a solid OL last year, which played a big part in them winning the Super Bowl. That said, depth is an issue and any team can stand improvement along the OL. Albert is an intriguing prospect who's versatile and athletic enough to play guard or tackle. Albert says his strength is as a pass blocker, but when you put on the film his ability as a run blocker stands out. Ultimately I would expect Albert to fit in at LT and allow Diel to move back inside. What a guy like Albert would give the Giants is flexability, and his versatility could allow them to carry 9 offensive linemen and free up a roster spot. Don't be surprised if the Giants deal down here. With some of the talent still on the board, teams will be calling with offers.

    Best Available

    Jeff Otah, OT, Pitt
    Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
    Curtis Lofton, ILB, Oklahoma
    Erin Henderson, OLB/ILB, Maryland
    Dre Moore, DT/DE, Maryland
    Sam Baker, OT/OG, Southern California
    Shawn Crable, OLB/DE, Michigan
    Quentin Groves, OLB/DE, Auburn
    Jamaal Charles, HB, Texas
    Pat Sims, DT/DE, Auburn
    Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan
    Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
    Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
    Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
    Lawrence Jackson, DE/OLB, Southern California
    Fred Davis, TE, Southern California
    Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
    DaJuan Morgan, S, N.C. State
    Chad Henne, QB, Michigan
    Patrick Lee, CB, Auburn
    Chris Johnson, HB/KR, East Carolina
    Phillip Wheeler, OLB/ILB, Georgia Tech
    Early Doucet, WR, Louisiana State
    Chevis Jackson, CB, Louisiana State
    Ray Rice, HB, Rutgers
    Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
    Carl Nicks, OT/OG, Nebraska
    Charles Godfrey, CB/S, Iowa
    Joe Flacco, QB, Deleware
    John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame
    Thomas DeCoud, S, California
    Jerod Mayo, ILB, Tennessee
    Ahtyba Rubin, DT, Iowa State
    Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M
    Last edited by darnik44two; 02-26-2008, 03:39 PM.

  • #2
    Greatest pick of all time for the Vikings. I saw that pick and cried tears of joy. I am now part of the Darnik fan club and I greatly respect your opinion. Kepp up the amazing evaluation of talent as you are the best evaluator and poster here. Everything I said before was said out of jealousy.


    • #3
      jeff otah fell out of the first round?

      If he's there at 25 the seahawks will almost have to pick him there. I believe that he would fit pittsburgh better though.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by summond822 View Post
        jeff otah fell out of the first round?

        If he's there at 25 the seahawks will almost have to pick him there. I believe that he would fit pittsburgh better though.
        It's hard to put a finger on Otah's draft stock after the combine. He still has a good shot to be in the first round, I do think he raised some questions at the combine. His 40 was slow, but that doesn't really matter. His latteral movement and how high he was during on field drills I think may cause teams to shy away. He may not be a good fit immediatly as a LT and may need to start his career at RT. I had him in my top 15 going into the combine, and will still have him in my top 30 when I finalize everything. I just have a hard time seeing any team take him over Ryan Clady, Chris Williams, and of course Jake Long. I also think teams will like Sam Baker and Branden Albert's versatility and wouldn't be shocked if they went ahead of Otah.


        • #5
          Good value pick for giants


          • #6
            I'm not a huge fan of Dorsey myself. I guess if we're in that situation I hope that we trade down and get some extra picks than take him.

            Good mock though!

            Originally posted by fenikz
            His soft D really turns me off
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            • #7
              Best thing to do for the Bills at #11 in that situation is to trade down. Connor is an OK pick, I'm not too fond of him.


              • #8
                Originally posted by BaLLiN72 View Post
                Good value pick for giants
                I think so, and it's a sensible pick too although not all Giants fans will agree. If one of the top corners was still there then they would have to get some consideration. The Giants do a good job of implementing role players. A versatile linemen like Albert could save a roster spot which could be a big Diel.


                • #9
                  Sedrick Ellis? Did you even watch the combine? Gholston, Long or Long please.


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
                    Sedrick Ellis? Did you even watch the combine? Gholston, Long or Long please.
                    If the Dolphins take Gholston or Chris Long, how do they get 3 OLB's (Porter, Taylor, Gholston/Long) on the field at the same time? Also, how do they afford 3 gigantic contracts at the OLB position. I've not understood the talk of them taking a OLB #1.

                    I do agree Jake Long is a very possible pick, and possibly the safest pick.


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by art vandelay View Post
                      Best thing to do for the Bills at #11 in that situation is to trade down. Connor is an OK pick, I'm not too fond of him.
                      For sure it would be in their best interest to trade down, just a question weather they will be able too. I wonder how much the shortened time limit (10 minutes) will affect first round trades on draft day. Connor could be had later on, but they liked Poz so I know they like Connor. Maybe they can go for the trifecta and draft Sean Lee next year. It would be an interesting scenario.


                      • #12
                        I love the Patriots pick!


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by darnik44two View Post
                          If the Dolphins take Gholston or Chris Long, how do they get 3 OLB's (Porter, Taylor, Gholston/Long) on the field at the same time? Also, how do they afford 3 gigantic contracts at the OLB position. I've not understood the talk of them taking a OLB #1.

                          I do agree Jake Long is a very possible pick, and possibly the safest pick.

                          I have put up this same argument many times Darnik in regards to the Dolphins selecting Chris Long. A name that you forgot on your list of OLB's for the Phins is Matt Roth. I cant beleive that Phins fans have totally forgot about him. Another sleeper is Abraham Wright there 7th round pick out of Colorado who surprised many in last years preseason before getting hurt.

                          OLB Jason Taylor
                          OLB Joey Porter
                          OLB Matt Roth
                          OLB Abraham Wright

                          That's 4 solid 3-4 OLB's. Now if the Phins decide to trade J.T. then the ideal pick would be Chris Long. They cant release Joey because of all the guaranteed money. Jason Taylor is the odd man out being that he is 34. I cant see Parcells taking Matt Ryan because having wet behind the ears QB's on the roster isnt what Bill usually goes for. I see them trading for a veteran or signing a Todd Collins type. Jake Long for me is the obvious pick because it will make the Dolphins line young and dominant. Long-Satele-Carey going into the next 10 years.

                          I have heard that the Phins are interested in signing Flozell but what creeps into my head is that Flozell is 33 years old. So when the Phins are ready to compete he is going to be 36-37???? Just doesnt make sense for him to be in a rebuilding process and it doesnt make sense for the Phins because the whole idea is to get younger.


                          • #14
                            I dont see Parcells taking Sedrick Ellis with the #1 pick of the draft. If you want a pick that makes more sense then look no further then Jake Long. Ellis didnt do anything at the combine to justify a #1 in this draft. If Taylor is dealt then Chris is the pick. If Taylor stays then I cant see them passing up on Jake.


                            • #15
                              As a Miami fan, a definite no to Ellis. I think the argument on not taking one of the OLB's will be a moot point because they will trade Jason Taylor this offseason. While I am a Gholston guy, I think the pick will come down to Chris Long or Matt Ryan with Long winning out. The best scenario would be a trade down, but that is starting to look like a long shot.....



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