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    Scenario S-1

    Quick 1-round mock. Itís been awhile since I did my own. Not sure if Iíll go through the rest anytime soon, as thereís a lot of FA left to shake things out. Maybe.

    Trades

    Dallas Cowboys get the 6th overall
    New York Jets get the 22nd, 62nd (61st), and 93rd (92nd) overall plus Bobby Carpenter

    Carolina Panthers get the 7th overall
    New England Patriots get the 13th and 68th (67th) overall, plus a 2009 3rd rounder

    Seattle Seahawks get the 12th overall
    Denver Broncos get the 25th and 56th (55th) overall, plus a 2009 3rd rounder

    Jacksonville Jaguars get the 19th overall
    Philadelphia Eagles get the 26th and 90th (89th) overall

    Baltimore Ravens get the 28th overall
    Dallas Cowboys get the 39th (38th) overall and a 2009 3rd rounder

    1. Miami Ė QB Matt Ryan, Boston College

    Itís still the same three options. Jake Long, Chris Long, or Matt Ryan. I donít see a trade materializing, with the only possible options, IMO, being Dallas (unlikely) or Atlanta (doubtful, as they like their picks). Thus, a pick. Parcells taking an OL this early in a deep OL class? Donít buy it. Doesnít seem like him. Chris Long or Matt Ryan? The lean is to Matt Ryan for now.

    2. St. Louis Rams Ė DE/OLB Chris Long, Virginia

    Which Long? The nodís always been to Jake, with the assumption that Chris was off. If here, I think they go Chris. He has the right attitude. He has the skillset they need as a pass rushing DE that can stand up as well. Donít see them dealing.

    3. Atlanta Falcons Ė DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU

    Jake Long or Glenn Dorsey is the thought. If itís the Patriots way, the lean is to filling out the OL from this deep class with a 2nd. Provided Dorsey is healthy, the guess is they start to rebuild the defense. If heís not healthy, then the nod goes to Jake Long.

    4. Oakland Raiders Ė DE/OLB Vernon Gholston, the Ohio State

    Sedrick Ellis, Jake Long, Vernon Gholston, or Darren McFadden? Nod goes towards shoring up the defense for now with the addition of the physical specimen that is Vernon Gholston.

    5. Kansas City Chiefs Ė OT Jake Long, Michigan

    Their ideal scenario Ö just hoping heís a LT. Nothing much else to say.

    6. Dallas Cowboys f/ NY Jets Ė RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas

    Jerry doesnít want to trade up to 1. 6? I can see him get tempted in draft, particularly if he can do it without giving up both firsts. Jets are better off dealing down, unless they absolutely love Sedrick Ellis here. Should they force both firsts? My belief is no, as the value from the late first-late 2nd is fairly close, and the additional extra pick could help.

    7. Carolina f/ San Francisco via NE Ė DT Sedrick Ellis, USC

    I think the Patriots will look to deal down anyways, but with Gholston gone, there isnít anyone that is a justifiable pick for them at 7th overall. I debated two teams in a move Ė the Saints and the Panthers. The feeling here is that the drop from 10-13 isnít that much, and the Panthers, with an extra pick, and in a win now mode, could be more aggressive. The Patriots might like the idea of a future as well. What do the Panthers look here? OT comes to mind. DT could be a possibility as well. DE could be a thought. With talks of Gross possibly at LT, and with the deep OT class, Iím looking DL here. Ellis could give them an interior force that Kemoeatu and Lewis arenít. Their pass rush could use help.

    8. Baltimore Ravens Ė CB Leodis McKelvin, Troy

    They may look deal, but Iím not sure who trades up here. As a result, I make a pick, and with no QB value here, my contemplations, position wise, are CB/OT, with BPA kept in mind. Leodis McKelvin could very well be BPA and fill a need.

    9. Cincinnati Bengals Ė OLB/DE Derrick Harvey, Florida

    Theyíve had Harvey on their minds for awhile. I like the Merling fit better, a guy that can play as a 4-3 end, 4-3 DT, 3-4 DE, and occasionally drop into coverage. That said, they could use the pass rush help, and Harvey is the better bet.

    10. New Orleans Saints Ė OT Ryan Clady, Boise State

    They may seek a deal, but Iíve got a hard time selling myself on who moves up here unless someone is in love with a player. As such, I make a pick, and the doorís more wide open than anyone might think. Iím looking DL, LB, DB, OT, RB. While corner is tempting, the nod goes to OL value. Brown goes to RT.

    11. Buffalo Bills Ė DE Quentin Groves, Auburn

    This isnít really an ideal spot for them, and they could look to deal down after the Stroud deal. That said, they still have a pick in the 3rd. Where to? CB? DE? WR? TE? Another end was once a reach at 11 for a Tampa 2 team.

    12. Seattle Seahawks f/ Denver Broncos Ė RB Rashard Mendenhall, Illionois

    I could see Denver get intrigued by a deal. Could be wrong, but the options here point to Balmer, Rivers, OL, and I can see them not getting terribly excited with any of them. With Seattle looking as if theyíll land their TE, the next step may be to look to fill another offensive hole aggressively. Donít rule out OT here. That said, a young runner is needed to replace Shaun.

    13. New England Patriots f/ Carolina Panthers Ė CB Aqib Talib, Kansas

    They could look Keith Rivers at ILB here, but the guess is that they go Talib, whose size, instincts, and ball skills could prove to be a great fit.

    14. Chicago Bears Ė OT Chris Williams, Vanderbilt

    Otah and Williams are both here. I prefer Otah, but the rumors have hinted that Williams is someone we are intrigued with, so I lean that way.

    15. Detroit Lions Ė RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon

    DL value is off, so the look is to a lead runner.

    16. Arizona Cardinals Ė CB Mike Jenkins, South Florida

    Donít count out Otah or Merling, but CB comes to mind here with Rolle at FS.

    17. Minnesota Vikings Ė OL Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh

    Theyíve addressed S and WR. What now? DL? OL? Merling tempts as a possible strongside end that can backup the DTís with Spencer Johnson gone now. That said, the nod goes to Jeff Otah, who is still surprisingly around, and a guy who could be the number 2 OT on plenty of boards. He can challenge G or T.

    18. Houston Texans Ė LB Keith Rivers, USC

    I want to look for a deal here, but Iím not sure which team will want to deal up. Thus, I am left with an intriguing decision Ė address DB or take the draftís top LB. Secondary seems a bit of a reach here, and thus, I lean LB to put Rivers next to Demeco.

    19. Jacksonville Jaguars f/ Philadelphia Eagles Ė DE Phillip Merling, Clemson

    Jacksonville still has Buffaloís 3rd rounder (73rd (72nd)), so I could see them get aggressive. I could see the Eagles look Merling, but after signing Clemons, they are 4 deep. Who else here? WR? Eh. OT? Valueís off unless they go Albert, which I donít see. DB? Who? DRC? Eh. Merling offers a versatile that can help at end and go inside as well.

    20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ė WR Devin Thomas, Michigan State

    Iím not sure I really like the options here. I pondered a trade, but didnít see any that I was sold on. Thus, I make a pick. Only defensive spot I could somewhat see would be CB, and Iím not sold on them going this high for CB. Itís something to store in the mind, though. RB/WR/QB is where Iím looking. I could see Chucky intrigued with Chris Johnson even with Michael Bennett. But I pass, and thus, itís a surprise QB nod or a WR. I lean to the raw Devin Thomasí size and deep speed as a possible temptation for Chucky.

    21. Washington Redskins Ė DB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tennessee State

    Thereís a lot of OL talk. Until they make an OL move, Iíve got a hard time mocking Branden Albert here to be a backup. So, what now? CB? WR? DE? I lean against DE, as the value is lacking. Donít be surprised with a darkhorse LB look. CB or WR? DRC or Kelly/Sweed? The lean goes to DRC. Still not sold on WR just yet. A veteran WR could be a higher priority target. A rookie? Is that player going to be anything more than option 3 or 4? Furthermore, the value differentiation in the 2nd/3rd at WR, from the first, isnít much.

    22. New York Jets f/ Dallas Cowboys Ė DL Kentwan Balmer, UNC

    Trading down makes sense unless they love Sedrick Ellis. What here? Another trade is a thought, but with their deck replenished, I make a pick. OL is a possibility, with Albert sliding in at RG perhaps, or even challenging at RT. Donít like the RB options. WR/TE are thoughts. CB? In the mind. Any LBís? Connor perhaps? In the end, I go with the expected and take Balmer to develop as a 3-4 DE. With Jenkins and Balmer, theyíve suddenly gotten much bigger up front.

    23. Pittsburgh Steelers Ė OL Branden Albert, Virginia

    So, Iím buying into the pick now. That said, it isnít something they absolutely have to pursue. There are other routes. A WR here is definitely a thought. CB could be an option. But their OL was a concern last year, and if they can keep Starks, add Albert, suddenly, the OL is looking good provided it stays healthy.

    24. Tennessee Titans Ė WR Limas Sweed, Texas

    There isnít any DL value here, which is the only position I could see them pursuing this high defensively. Thus, I go offense, where OL could get a look. That said, they need WR/TE help. The nod goes to the expected, Limas Sweed, provided his medicals are good.

    25. Denver Broncos f/ Seattle Seahawks Ė OT Sam Baker, USC

    I wouldnít be stunned if they looked RB. If Chris Johnson can get to 205ish by his pro day, as Chris suggests, this could be more tempting than some think. That said, Iím not expecting it as of now. OL could get a look here. Malcolm Kelly may be a thought. Dan Connor is a possibility. A DT nab might not be the worst idea. S is a long thought.. Tough decision. Perhaps in a mild surprise, I go with Sam Baker here for the OT fit.

    26. Philadelphia Eagles f/ Jacksonville Jaguars Ė S Kenny Phillips, the U

    And the streak continues. While OT was a long thought, I pass on that. WR can wait. I look defensive secondary as a result, and Phillips could be the young safety theyíve been searching for.

    27. San Diego Chargers Ė DB Reggie Smith, Oklahoma

    I want to the pull the trigger on a trade, but I just canít for some reason. Somethingís in my vision, but in the end, I decide to make a pick, and with McCree out, I go with Reggie Smith here as a potential guy to step in right away. Or he could provide depth at CB.

    28. Baltimore Ravens f/ Dallas Cowboys Ė QB Joe Flacco, Delaware

    I firmly believe that a 2nd QB will go round 1. Who deals up? Baltimore or Atlanta come to mind, considering their early 2nd round picks. The nod goes to Baltimore. It could be another player, but for now, Iím putting Flacco in there as heís my number 2 QB. I think Dallas would be willing to drop a few spots and take a future, particularly if they are active on the market. Iíll have to rethink if I should pull this trigger at 27 instead.

    29. San Francisco 49ers f/ Indianapolis Colts Ė ILB Dan Connor, Penn State

    It isnít a great spot for them to be in. Who? An ILB like Connor could be a thought. DB? Donít see it. DL could use more looks. A rush backer could be an idea. OL could be a thought. WR fit would be nice. After thinning through as a result of fit and value, Iím looking at ILB/OLB/OL/WR. I lean against WR as the value in the early 2nd and even early 3rd shouldnít be too different. They have options at OL, with Staley at LT, Baas at guard being the two young centerpieces, with Snyder at guard or tackle, and others still there. Thus, ILB or OLB. I donít like this.

    30. Green Bay Packers Ė OLB/DE Cliff Avril, Purdue

    CB is definitely an area of focus. More OL help wouldnít hurt (although I really like the Joe Toledo signing). Pass rushing depth could be addressed (of course, they could target Jason Taylor and nullify this need). A LB to challenge Poppinga could be a thought. Other positions could get looks based on BPA/future, as they have some depth in place. I looked CB first, but didnít like what I saw. Then I looked OL. Eh. They already have kids. Maybe, but for now, I pass. Any BPA? WR? Probably not going that route. So, for now, I decide to come a bit out of LF. Avril can challenge Poppinga at SAM, while also providing pass rushing depth. Think of how Colvin was utilized while he was in Chicago.

    31. New England Patriots (forfeited)

    32. New York Giants Ė LB Jerod Mayo, Tennessee

    I could see them look OL. I wouldnít rule out DT. LB? Definitely a possibility on the menu. CB? Another strong option. S? An area of concern. So? S and CB values are better later. OL/LB/DT? Iím leaning Ö Jerod Mayo post combine. I am awfully tempted with a surprise DT move. It could be Erin Henderson as an option, or even an Xavier Adibi. A lot of possibilities in short.

  • #2
    I think the value is too great and Sharper's declining for the Vikings to pass up Phillips.
    Originally posted by 7-11
    Originally posted by Renji
    Keyshawn because i just hate T.O. he is a cocky son of a biscuit
    But an athletic marvel for a second generation confectionary product

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    • #3
      I like the Otah pick, especially with the uncertainty of McKinnie.


      http://minnesotasportstwentyfourseven.blogspot.com/

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      • #4
        Good Houston pick. Good Baltimore pick and I highly doubt that we would trade back into the first round, just for Joe Flacco. If we want him that bad, we can easily take him in the 2nd Round.

        Baltimore: 7-4

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        • #5
          Originally posted by litlharsh View Post
          I think the value is too great and Sharper's declining for the Vikings to pass up Phillips.
          The value is too great? Most people have Phillips as a borderline first rounder, which Phillips himself basically acknowledged as well (as he noted something along the lines of he think he's moved into the first round). Furthermore, unless Sharper gets benched, where do you play Phillips, with Madieu Williams set at the other safety spot.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Yung Flippa View Post
            Good Houston pick. Good Baltimore pick and I highly doubt that we would trade back into the first round, just for Joe Flacco. If we want him that bad, we can easily take him in the 2nd Round.
            I'm not sure Joe Flacco will be there in the 2nd at your pick, but it's possible. There's even some outside buzz of mid-first. That said, you can slide another QB in there. As of now, my feeling is that Ozzie won't sit still on QB. He won't take what's left, and will make a move up, if he doesn't land one in the first. The Ravens are also poorly positioned, with Miami and Atlanta ahead, and one of them likely looking QB early 2nd.

            A lot of time to go, though. Who knows, Brohm may rise. Maybe it's Henne.

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            • #7
              Sharper hasn't been that great himself.

              I always thought Phillips was a consensus to go top 15 and it would be a gift to have him fall to the Vikings. Guess I was wrong lol.
              Originally posted by 7-11
              Originally posted by Renji
              Keyshawn because i just hate T.O. he is a cocky son of a biscuit
              But an athletic marvel for a second generation confectionary product

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              • #8
                interesting packers pick... i really dont know what to say about it. it is rather left field.

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                • #9
                  11. Buffalo Bills – DE Quentin Groves, Auburn

                  This isn’t really an ideal spot for them, and they could look to deal down after the Stroud deal. That said, they still have a pick in the 3rd. Where to? CB? DE? WR? TE? Another end was once a reach at 11 for a Tampa 2 team.
                  i love the pick toonster, and i can say i'll probably be one of the few buffalo fans who do. everyone seems to be fixated on a WR in the first, and it's just not going to happen. although i hope we can trade down and take him, he is the player i want in the first. we still have one second and one third, so we are in good shape. the value for us at #11 is terrible, we are going to have to end up reaching on someone unless we can trade down, which is the ideal scenerio.
                  Last edited by essential; 03-02-2008, 02:09 AM.
                  2015 Bills Draft:

                  This is the NFL draft, not a boyscout draft.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by roidrunner View Post
                    interesting packers pick... i really dont know what to say about it. it is rather left field.
                    If there was a corner that stood out there, I would lean that direction. But there isn't. And more interior OL youth doesn't seem necessary. Youth is there. Now, maybe they fall for someone like a Carl Nicks, a big bodied guy that moves well, and decide to groom him at tackle. It's possible. But with nothing looking too good there at those spots, I went with Avril, who could be BPA. He fits the need at LB in that, he's played LB before, he's big enough to play SAM, and he's more athletic than Poppinga. And you can slide Avril down to end in passing situations. Just a thought.

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                    • #11
                      what about cason or talib?? where do you have them ranked?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by essential View Post
                        i love the pick toonster, and i can say i'll probably be one of the few buffalo fans who do. everyone seems to be fixated on a WR in the first, and it's just not going to happen. although i hope we can trade down and take him, he is the player i want in the first. we still have one second and one third, so we are in good shape. the value for us at #11 is terrible, we are going to have to end up reaching on someone unless we can trade down, which is the ideal scenerio.
                        If Derrick Harvey is there at 11, that would be my first nod (in terms of DE's). For Buffalo, it just isn't a great situation. If you sign a Bryant Johnson, the chances of going WR drop dramatically. Beyond that, WR value is quite iffy, and even if you project some guys doing well, the chances of the value being at 11 being worthwhile? seems slim. The DT moves negate that, and TE lacks value. You assume that Mitchell is given a starting job, although nothing should be assumed. That leaves DE/DB there, which is why I end up on Groves. He'll get time to develop, as Kelsay isn't going anywhere this year. There is also cover 2 depth for DB's later. That said, Aqib Talib was a superbly long thought there. I'm just not sure what other options exist.

                        The one darkhorse thought that passed my mind was OL.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by roidrunner View Post
                          what about cason or talib?? where do you have them ranked?
                          Unless I'm mistaken, I had Talib come off the board at 13. I have Talib as a first rounder.

                          Cason was a thought there, but I've still got him more as a 2nd.

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                          • #14
                            yea your right. i guess i missed talib. what about godfrey from Iowa?

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                            • #15
                              or Flowers from VT?

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