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    *Tell me why it's a bad pick.

    Good reasons: GM drafting tendencies, scheme, recent games of that player suggest he's not actually a top-100 pick (you should only use this reason if you've seen the guy play).

    Bad reasons: you don't like the player, that's not our biggest need, there's "no way" he'll go that high (or low), _____ plz.

    Round 1

    1. Carolina (2-14): Nick Fairley
    2. Denver (4-12): Da'Quan Bowers
    3. Buffalo (4-12): Cam Newton
    4. Cincinnati (4-12): Blaine Gabbert
    5. Arizona (5-11): Patrick Peterson
    6. Cleveland (5-11): A.J. Green
    7. San Francisco (6-10): Prince Amukamara
    8. Tennessee (6-10): Marcell Dareus
    9. Dallas (6-10): Cameron Jordan
    10. Washington (6-10): Julio Jones
    11. Houston (6-10): Von Miller
    12. Minnesota (6-10): Stefen Wisiniewski
    13. Detroit (6-10): Akeem Ayers
    14. St. Louis (7-9): Mark Ingram
    15. Miami (7-9): Mikel LeShoure
    16. Jacksonville (8-8): Ryan Kerrigan
    17. New England - from Oakland (8-8): Gabe Carimi
    18. San Diego (9-7): J.J. Watt
    19. New York Giants (10-6): Tyron Smith
    20. Tampa Bay (10-6): Aldon Smith
    21. Kansas City* (10-6): Justin Houston
    22. Indianapolis* (10-6): Nate Solder
    23. Philadelphia* (10-6): Aaron Williams
    24. New Orleans* (11-5): Corey Liuget
    25. Seattle* (7-9): Jimmy Smith
    26. Baltimore* (12-4): Cameron Heyward
    27. Atlanta* (13-3): Robert Quinn
    28. New England* (14-2): Brandon Burton
    29. Chicago* (11-5): Derek Sherrod
    30. New York Jets* (11-5): Rahim Moore
    31. Green Bay* (10-6): Anthony Costanzo
    32. Pittsburgh* (12-4): Benjamin Ijalana

    Round 2

    1. New England - from Carolina (2-14): Christian Ballard
    2. Buffalo (4-12): Adrian Clayborn
    3. Cincinnati (4-12): Quinton Carter
    4. Denver (4-12): Stephen Paea
    5. Cleveland (5-11): Jurrell Casey
    6. Arizona (5-11): Martez Wilson
    7. Tennessee (6-10): Ryan Mallett
    8. Dallas (6-10): Davon House
    9. Washington (6-10): Jake Locker
    10. Houston (6-10): Muhammad Wilkerson
    11. Minnesota (6-10): Bruce Carter
    12. Detroit (6-10): Brandon Harris
    13. San Francisco (6-10): Sam Acho
    14. Denver - from Miami (7-9): Kyle Rudolph
    15. St. Louis (7-9): Phil Taylor
    16. Oakland (8-8): Mike Pouncey
    17. Jacksonville (8-8): Christian Ponder
    18. San Diego (9-7): Jerrel Jernigan
    19. Tampa Bay (10-6): Jerrard Tarrant
    20. New York Giants (10-6): Jordan Todman
    21. Indianapolis* (10-6): Drake Nevis
    22. Philadelphia* (10-6): Jason Pinkston
    23. Kansas City* (10-6): Leonard Hankerson
    24. New Orleans* (11-5): Pernell McPhee
    25. Seattle* (7-9): Marvin Austin
    26. Baltimore* (12-4): Torrey Smith
    27. Atlanta* (13-3): Titus Young
    28. New England* (14-2): Brooks Reed
    29. San Diego - from New York Jets* (11-5): Ahmad Black
    30. Chicago* (11-5): Jonathan Baldwin
    31. Green Bay* (10-6): Jeremy Beal
    32. Pittsburgh* (12-4): Ras-I Dowling

    Round 3

    1. Carolina (2-14): Lance Kendricks
    2. Cincinnati (4-12): Greg Little
    3. Denver (4-12): Jarvis Jenkins
    4. Buffalo (4-12): D.J. Williams
    5. Arizona (5-11): Jabaal Sheard
    6. Cleveland (5-11): Johnny Patrick
    7. Dallas (6-10): Marcus Cannon
    8. New Orleans - from Washington (6-10): Lawrence Wilson
    9. Houston (6-10): Randall Cobb
    10. New England - from Minnesota (6-10): Cecil Shorts
    11. Detroit (6-10): Rodney Hudson
    12. San Francisco (6-10): Shareece Wright
    13. Tennessee (6-10): Mason Foster
    14. St. Louis (7-9): Quan Sturdivant
    15. Miami (7-9): Orlando Franklin
    16. Jacksonville (8-8): Vincent Brown
    17. Oakland (8-8): Kenrick Ellis
    18. San Diego (9-7): Greg Jones
    19. New York Giants (10-6): Jalil Brown
    20. Tampa Bay (10-6): Danny Watkins
    21. Philadelphia* (10-6): Jaiqwan Jarrett
    22. Kansas City* (10-6): Tandon Doss
    23. Indianapolis* (10-6): Curtis Brown
    24. New Orleans* (11-5): Daniel Thomas
    25. San Diego - from Seattle* (7-9): Kendric Burney
    26. Baltimore* (12-4): Ryan Williams
    27. Atlanta* (13-3): Jacquizz Rodgers
    28. New England* (14-2): Dwayne Harris
    29. Chicago* (11-5): John Moffitt
    30. New York Jets* (11-5): K.J. Wright
    31. Green Bay* (10-6): Jerrell Powe
    32. Pittsburgh* (12-4): Kendall Hunter
    "I'm Ko Simpson!"

    - Ko Simpson

  • #2
    It'd be a travesty if the Patriots passed on Robert Quinn at #17, but he won't fall that far down. Brandon Burton is a huge reach and doesn't even fill a major need with Bodden/McCourty penciled in as the starters for next year. Ballard is decent but I'd rather have Muhammad Wilkerson there. Nice pick with Brooks Reed there. The Patriots have a lot of WRs on roster already so I don't think they draft two. Maybe one.

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    • #3
      I think you for got to draft SF a QB in the second round .Love the first pick for the CB . Dunno about Acho might be to high.Descent 3rd tho .

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      • #4
        Not the most exciting Phins draft, but fills some big needs. Not bad.

        Dolphins Dream Draft: 1. Jaylon Smith 2. Artie Burns 3. Landon Turner

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        • #5
          Really not feeling this Pats mock to be honest. I wouldn't mind Carimi at 17, only if the top players they would target are off the board.

          Players with a realistic shot of being there at 17 the Pats would target IMO

          Julio Jones, Cameron Jordan, Ryan Kerrigan, Robert Quinn, Aldon Smith, Justin Houston, JJ Watt, Cameron Heyward, Nate Solder.

          Only Jones, Jordan and Kerrigan of those players listed are gone, and with the exception of Solder I would prefer any other player on the list before Carimi.

          At 28 I really dislike the Burton pick. I only think CB will be a first round selection if the value is too good to pass on, ie PP or Prince start falling.

          No complaints with the second round. Ballard is a nice fit, although a little soft, and Reed could be a very good pass rusher at OLB.

          In the third, I dont like Shorts as he's not the type of WR we need and I think the value for Hudson is too good to pass up, whether he play OG or C. I think exactly the same thing about Harris


          BoneKrusher killing it with the sig

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          • #6
            I would be furious if the Vikings did that at #12. You say "There's no way he'll go that high" is a bad reason to bash the pick, but that makes no sense. You put a guy ranked around the bottom of round 1 or the top of round 2 by just about every draft analyst out at pick #12 overall, people have a right to strongly disagree. Wiesniewski at #12 is a mega-reach, and passing on Locker/Mallett just makes it worse.

            But I'll play by those "Good reasons" rules for a second: The Vikings have not drafted O-Lineman in round 1 since 2002, and that was an offensive tackle in Bryant McKinnie. Since 1986, in all rounds, the Vikings have drafted 3 centers (2 if you count Ryan Cook as an offensive tackle, which is the only position he's played for us.) NFL Draft history-wise, the last time a Center was taken in the top 12 picks was 1976.

            We could use an upgrade at Center, but have to use a later pick.

            Even if we don't go the QB route, Akeem Ayers (Vikings used a mid-1st rounder on Chad Greenway in 2006 and had success, need a new OLB opposite him) or JJ Watt (LE Ray Edwards leaving, no good replacement) would be solid picks.


            In round 2 (although I don't mind Carter) I would think the Vikings would take Brandon Harris, seeing as Cedric Griffin has 2 shredded knees, and Chris Cook's knees seem to be from the same DNA. That leaves and aging Winfield and scrubs. Pouncey or Ponder (if no round 1 QB) would also be good fits.


            www.minnesotavikingsnation.com

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            • #7
              Brandon Harris is not a 2nd Round talent. 1 bad game vs Michael Floyd won't make him fall that far.

              Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
              The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
              Newton
              South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
              Barely literate +5 swagger
              Thief +15 swagger
              Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
              Big, average speed -3 swagger
              Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
              Total Swagger: 62
              ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

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              • #8
                Quizz doesn't fit the Falcons profile, not saying I don't want him, just saying that he doesn't really fit what TD has done here so far. I really like this draft for the Falcons a ton though. Hits on my biggest concerns really, and I think after hearing Thomas Dimitroff talking about needing more explosive plays, that both the 2nd and 3rd round picks fit that description

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                • #9
                  Great Bears Draft!! I'd prefer Harris in the 1st but he won't fall to us so Sherrod is a good pick.

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                  • #10
                    id prefer phil taylor or mike pouncey at 32, then jarvis jenkins over dowling but i wouldnt be upset at dowling either.

                    kendall hunter is a nice little luxury pick
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                    • #11
                      [QUOTE=gpngc;2504455
                      3. Buffalo (4-12): Cam Newton
                      2. Buffalo (4-12): Adrian Clayborn
                      6. Arizona (5-11): Martez Wilson
                      14. Denver - from Miami (7-9): Kyle Rudolph
                      15. St. Louis (7-9): Phil Taylor
                      4. Buffalo (4-12): D.J. Williams
                      7. Dallas (6-10): Marcus Cannon
                      13. Tennessee (6-10): Mason Foster
                      15. Miami (7-9): Orlando Franklin
                      19. New York Giants (10-6): Jalil Brown[/QUOTE]

                      I like the first pick, with Newton having time to learn, watch, and acclimate. Love the Clayborn value in the second, but not sure about the fit in the 3-4... Wilson is a upgrade next to Poz in the 2nd, Rudolph would fill maybe the biggest hole on the team (Bills TE's last year 23 catches, 1 TD) and like Wilson would be a better fit/need/value IMO. Taylor could be a dark horse despite drafting Troup last year. Would rather see them use a 4th rounder to move up and land Rudolph or Kendricks than take Williams (who's baffling me right now), Luke Stocker fits as a blocker and pass catcher IMO better. Cannon could upgrade RT potentially, as could Franklin, Foster could upgrade ILB, but I think they are looking for more size, and Brown's value could be too much to pass up.
                      "It must be contract year!"

                      Deion Sanders

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                      • #12
                        don't know anything about Doss but GREAT 1st 2 picks for KC

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                        • #13
                          Pretty good job with Denver's draft. If we were to grab Mason Foster in the third, it would be perfect.

                          WELCOME REALITY

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                          • #14
                            Mike Brown is set on not trading Carson Palmer... so he won't waste a high 1st round pick on a mediocre QB. I like the Quinton Carter pick though

                            hoping Benjamin Ijalana drops to Bengals in round 2, then DeAndre McDaniel in round 3
                            Last edited by crites09; 02-01-2011, 12:22 PM.
                            R.I.P Chris 'Slim' Henry

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by akvikefan89 View Post
                              I would be furious if the Vikings did that at #12. You say "There's no way he'll go that high" is a bad reason to bash the pick, but that makes no sense. You put a guy ranked around the bottom of round 1 or the top of round 2 by just about every draft analyst out at pick #12 overall, people have a right to strongly disagree. Wiesniewski at #12 is a mega-reach, and passing on Locker/Mallett just makes it worse.

                              But I'll play by those "Good reasons" rules for a second: The Vikings have not drafted O-Lineman in round 1 since 2002, and that was an offensive tackle in Bryant McKinnie. Since 1986, in all rounds, the Vikings have drafted 3 centers (2 if you count Ryan Cook as an offensive tackle, which is the only position he's played for us.) NFL Draft history-wise, the last time a Center was taken in the top 12 picks was 1976.

                              We could use an upgrade at Center, but have to use a later pick.

                              Even if we don't go the QB route, Akeem Ayers (Vikings used a mid-1st rounder on Chad Greenway in 2006 and had success, need a new OLB opposite him) or JJ Watt (LE Ray Edwards leaving, no good replacement) would be solid picks.


                              In round 2 (although I don't mind Carter) I would think the Vikings would take Brandon Harris, seeing as Cedric Griffin has 2 shredded knees, and Chris Cook's knees seem to be from the same DNA. That leaves and aging Winfield and scrubs. Pouncey or Ponder (if no round 1 QB) would also be good fits.
                              I second this. Glad someone else typed it out so I didn't have to.

                              Bonekrusher.

                              Originally posted by JordanTaber
                              Football...it's rocket surgery now, folks.

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