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  • #46
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Neo View Post
      It doesnt matter where you lose in the playoffs its that you win or lose. McNabb's playoff record is better is it not?
      So what does that mean, McNabb has been able to consistently not get his team to the Super Bowl, whereas Elway has been more sucessful in getting his team there?

      Besides, you act like they are worlds apart...I'm trusting your stats here which I don't know if I should be...but its one damn game difference!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by JK17 View Post
        There's an excuse to lock it up.
        I'm not gonna mention the "r" word, I don't want any more infractions, but thats uncalled for and certainly has no place in this conversation... considering I've had infractions for defending things like that before, your way off base.
        I am not looking for an infraction by implying race. But i do not know how that doesnt come into a converstation like this. As we all know African americans were long viewed that they could not be Leaders as far as being a QB is concerned and that is exactly the arguments we see here. We ignore every single fact that favors the african american QB, while praising the leadership skills dispite the lack of .... well prefomence. I will stay away from the race issue after this post because apparently people on this board are not mature enough to handle it.

        McNabb's first 8 years are significantly better than Elways.

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        • #49
          What it all comes down to is superbowls. McNabb has 1, Elway has 3.

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          • #50
            neo, what is the stats for them both thru 8 years? yds, tds, ints, wins as a starter?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by JK17 View Post
              So what does that mean, McNabb has been able to consistently not get his team to the Super Bowl, whereas Elway has been more sucessful in getting his team there?

              Besides, you act like they are worlds apart...I'm trusting your stats here which I don't know if I should be...but its one damn game difference!
              So McNabb is more successful in the playoffs thank you. The stats passing, rushing, tds, ints, completion % and the like are all available as well if you feel like looking them up. McNabb is smashing on elway in every single one of them. *FACT

              also of course you should trust my stats... i dont make mistakes

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              • #52
                In the 5 post season losses 3 of Elways were in the SB, 2 he was knocked out in the first round (first 2 years of his career). In McNabb's 5 losses 1 was the 2nd round, 3 in the NFC championship game, and one was the SB. Please explain why Elway getting to the SB every year he went to the playoffs other than his first two in the NFL, is better than McNabb's getting to the SB once and losing.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Neo View Post
                  I am not looking for an infraction by implying race. But i do not know how that doesnt come into a converstation like this. As we all know African americans were long viewed that they could not be Leaders as far as being a QB is concerned and that is exactly the arguments we see here. We ignore every single fact that favors the african american QB, while praising the leadership skills dispite the lack of .... well prefomence. I will stay away from the race issue after this post because apparently people on this board are not mature enough to handle it.

                  McNabb's first 8 years are significantly better than Elways.
                  ...You do realize you are the one who brought it into the conversation, you are the one who brought up leadership, and you are the one who continues to make no sense in your argument.

                  Elway's leadership skills were greater then McNabb's, regardless of any other outside condition. You have ignored every fact in favor of Elway and have done nothing other then repeat your same ignorant "8 years" argument.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                    Yeah, 5 does equal 5. We were talking about Super Bowls...remember, Elway went to more of those.

                    I don't understand where the McNabb leadership argument really comes from either. I like McNabb, but he sure didn't do a great job holding the team together during the TO drama.
                    He didnt? how so?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Neo View Post

                      McNabb's first 8 years are significantly better than Elways.
                      statistics maybe but Elway had more superbows, and didn't have anywhere near the supporting cast that McNabb had.
                      Elway's first 8 years

                      1959 3572 54.8 24721 135 128

                      Mcnabb's first 8 years

                      1898 3259 58.2 22080 152 72

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Neo View Post
                        He didnt? how so?
                        Well their season went to hell, the locker room was torn apart, the media made a mess of the whole situation...

                        Not to mention several Eagles took Owens' side over McNabbs....

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                          ...You do realize you are the one who brought it into the conversation, you are the one who brought up leadership, and you are the one who continues to make no sense in your argument.

                          Elway's leadership skills were greater then McNabb's, regardless of any other outside condition. You have ignored every fact in favor of Elway and have done nothing other then repeat your same ignorant "8 years" argument.
                          I am not saying McNabb's career is better than Elway, Elway was able to improve his last few years and put up some respectable #'s and get himself 2 superbowl Rings. However, there is no doubt that after 8 seasons McNabb is significantly better. If McNabb wins 2 superbowls will he be mentioned as better than Elway? most likely not... however for the first 8 seasons someone was better... that someone is McNabb.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                            Well their season went to hell, the locker room was torn apart, the media made a mess of the whole situation...

                            Not to mention several Eagles took Owens' side over McNabbs....
                            Were they? they rebounded pretty quick didnt they? Honestly, McNabb was injured in 2005, McNabb is the undisputed leader of the team like he has always been. I dont know how he didnt handle it well.... honestly it doesnt make much sense at all.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by CT Bronco Fan View Post
                              statistics maybe but Elway had more superbows, and didn't have anywhere near the supporting cast that McNabb had.
                              Elway's first 8 years

                              1959 3572 54.8 24721 135 128

                              Mcnabb's first 8 years

                              1898 3259 58.2 22080 152 72
                              Torrence Small and Charles Johnson were fantabulous, Todd Pinkston and James thrash... EVEN BETTER.... McNabb was carried on a boatful of talent...

                              wait thats laughable

                              try again.

                              BTW whats with Elways 128 INT's it will take McNabb another half decade to catch him in that area

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by CT Bronco Fan View Post
                                statistics maybe but Elway had more superbows, and didn't have anywhere near the supporting cast that McNabb had.
                                Elway's first 8 years

                                1959 3572 54.8 24721 135 128

                                Mcnabb's first 8 years

                                1898 3259 58.2 22080 152 72

                                so mcnabb does not blow away elway in every stat...

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