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  • #16
    Originally posted by skinzzfan25 View Post
    Well it looks like the Chiefs are poised for another season on LJ's back if they are going anywhere. Might as well pay him, he's the only threat on offense.
    Tony Gonzalez?

    Hello

    I know people have heard of him.

    We also have some good backups at runningback with Michael Bennett and Kolby Smith. Eddie Kennison is still a dependable wide receiver and we have several young talented wide receivers with Dwayne Bowe, Jeff Webb, and Chris Hannon. Hannon is probably the fastest guy on the field and is catching everything that is thrown his way.

    I guess I could say the Skins only weapon is Clinton Portis.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Phrost View Post
      People think that this 400 carry season was a death wish.
      People can think all they want.

      Who cares if he had 400 carries. If he had 50 less carries which would have put him down around 360 carries would that 50 less carries have magically extended his career past this year?

      People act like there is some magical barrier at 400 carries and once a player hits that barrier it causes their body to fall apart.

      Bullcrap.

      LJ has far less wear and tear than other runningbacks like LT, Shaun Alexander, and Edgerrin James.

      LT had 5,200+ yards in college as well as six straight seasons of 400 or more touches if you count receptions.

      Shaun Alexander and Edgerrin James have both had seasons shortened or ended by injuries.

      Larry Johnson has never had a major injury and he has only started two full seasons between college and the NFL.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by kmartin575 View Post
        People can think all they want.

        Who cares if he had 400 carries. If he had 50 less carries which would have put him down around 360 carries would that 50 less carries have magically extended his career past this year?

        People act like there is some magical barrier at 400 carries and once a player hits that barrier it causes their body to fall apart.

        Bullcrap.

        LJ has far less wear and tear than other runningbacks like LT, Shaun Alexander, and Edgerrin James.

        LT had 5,200+ yards in college as well as six straight seasons of 400 or more touches if you count receptions.

        Shaun Alexander and Edgerrin James have both had seasons shortened or ended by injuries.

        Larry Johnson has never had a major injury and he has only started two full seasons between college and the NFL.
        Post of the day.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by cardsalltheway View Post
          Don't get me wrong, LJ is a very good back, but he's delusional if he thinks he deserves the kind of money that LT and Peyton are getting.
          With the way contracts are rising it is kind of like inflation. 100$ in 1950 is worth much more than 100$ today. Similarly, LJ will likely get a larger contract than LT although it is not as big a chunk of the salary cap as it once was. Heck, Shaun Alexander got a contract larger than LT's and he's not as good as LJ or LT.

          The Chiefs don't report to training camp until July 27th. The Chiefs have traded contract proposals multiple times during that time and I truly believe they will get a contract done before training camp.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by kmartin575 View Post
            With the way contracts are rising it is kind of like inflation. 100$ in 1950 is worth much more than 100$ today. Similarly, LJ will likely get a larger contract than LT although it is not as big a chunk of the salary cap as it once was. Heck, Shaun Alexander got a contract larger than LT's and he's not as good as LJ or LT.

            The Chiefs don't report to training camp until July 27th. The Chiefs have traded contract proposals multiple times during that time and I truly believe they will get a contract done before training camp.
            Yes we all known inflation exists but over a 5 year period don't expect to much of a drastic jump. LT was also much younger when he got his.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kmartin575 View Post
              People can think all they want.

              Who cares if he had 400 carries. If he had 50 less carries which would have put him down around 360 carries would that 50 less carries have magically extended his career past this year?

              People act like there is some magical barrier at 400 carries and once a player hits that barrier it causes their body to fall apart.
              No one is saying that 400 is some magical number that will hurt your career, but the fact is that of the four other backs to do that in history, only one was able to continue playing at a high level afterwards. Now since Larry was so fresh before this, his body will probably handle it differently and I don't agree that he only has two good seasons left; but to think that having the most carries in a single NFL season won't have any effect at all on him is illogical.

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              • #22
                and the fact that LJ runs with his shoulders high he takes more damage than backs like LT and Edge

                but I believe he will be good until he is at least 32

                they should just pay him

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                • #23
                  well i don't think Nate Clements helped this situation.

                  these contract holdouts are becoming such a pain in the ass and so repetitive. when will they just sign shorter contracts or just play what they signed for. i understand the fact that they may deserve more because of market value and such, and that many players are underpaid, but they should honor the contract or sign a shorter deal to begin with.


                  I don't think LJ wearing down is something they are concerned with right now, because at worst he has another 4 years in him IMO. how long a deal is he looking for??


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                  • #24
                    As a Packer fan id be willing to trade for him. I still think hell be a top 5 back for next year and most likely a top 3 back. He deserves the money for how much the Chiefs rely on him. If they dont want to give him the money he deserves then send him to a team that wouldnt mind spending the extra money for him...like say GB :D

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by fenikz View Post
                      and the fact that LJ runs with his shoulders high he takes more damage than backs like LT and Edge
                      This is true I agree 100% but LJ knows that he has to tweak his running some he has all ready said in a interview that he is going to work on making people miss and going out of bounds more. That being said LJ is still going to be LJ he will still be a tough runner just smarter about when to lower the boom and when not to.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The Great Jonathan Vilma View Post
                        I don't think LJ wearing down is something they are concerned with right now, because at worst he has another 4 years in him IMO. how long a deal is he looking for??
                        Both sides want to do a long term deal 6 or 7 years from what I understand but the Chiefs want it to be back loaded and LJ wants big money the first few years I don't blame him. The guy has been making less then some back up RB's the last two years this year if nothing changes he would make 1.7 mill while M.Turner in SD is making 2.5 that is crap.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Splat420 View Post
                          Both sides want to do a long term deal 6 or 7 years from what I understand but the Chiefs want it to be back loaded and LJ wants big money the first few years I don't blame him. The guy has been making less then some back up RB's the last two years this year if nothing changes he would make 1.7 mill while M.Turner in SD is making 2.5 that is crap.
                          He will produce soon not later so why not front load it?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Phrost View Post
                            He will produce soon not later so why not front load it?
                            The Chiefs want to backload it because that way they can get rid of him before the big money is due. Just look at the Clements signing in SF as an example. It was somethign like a 7yr deal, but he will probably only be there the first 4 and then they will get rid of him to avoid ponying up the doe.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by kmartin575 View Post
                              Tony Gonzalez?

                              Hello

                              I know people have heard of him.

                              We also have some good backups at runningback with Michael Bennett and Kolby Smith. Eddie Kennison is still a dependable wide receiver and we have several young talented wide receivers with Dwayne Bowe, Jeff Webb, and Chris Hannon. Hannon is probably the fastest guy on the field and is catching everything that is thrown his way.

                              I guess I could say the Skins only weapon is Clinton Portis.
                              A little late on this here, but not much else going on to post about...

                              I think you're overexagerating the Chiefs' weapons a little bit here. Every team has a guy they consider to be a steady contributor (your Eddie Kennison). That doesn't mean you count that guy as a weapon just because they are average. Then you have more young and unproven WRs, who may show signs they are strong weapons, but haven't shown it yet. Backups, especially to guys who get 400+ carries/touches a year, are not all that dangerous themselves either.

                              The only one I would give you is Tony Gonzalez, who is still a top TE in the league, but is slowed down/slowing down, and won't be that option much longer.

                              On top of all that, who is throwing the ball, the third round draft choice Brodie Croyle with 0 NFL experience, or the career backup Damon Huard who looked good in a couple games but has started about 14 games in 11 years.

                              You also could say that the Skins only have Clinton Portis, but you'd be ignoring Santana Moss who has shown he is a good receiver, Chris Cooley who has had two very strong years in a row, and even Antwaan Randle El, who is far from a stud, but is an explosive player.

                              LJ is not the Chiefs only weapon, but he is certainly not surrounded by a ton of talent. He's got guys who have potential around him, and a decent backup, but he's not on an all-star roster.

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                              • #30
                                i think that they should work it somewhat like the nba does. they should have a max contract type thing where all the elite players cant go passed a certain contract level. that way people wont start thinking they are underpaid just because one team way overpays a player and such.

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