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  • #31
    Originally posted by Flyboy View Post
    The whole Bush thing from last year was completely hilarious. "OMG BUSH IS GOING TO SIT OUT AND RE-ENTER THE DRAFT~!!"

    Good times.
    HAHA, that was pretty funny. Everyone was freaking out.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Flyboy View Post
      Edwards really got a "crappy" deal.
      Yeah I suppose he did in comparison, but $18.5 million guaranteed on a 5 year deal is not bad at all.

      Joe Thomas will get $20 million + guaranteed, I... uhh... guarantee it.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by draftguru151 View Post
        HAHA, that was pretty funny. Everyone was freaking out.
        It was essentially that topic that made me post here on a regular basis rather than just lurking.
        The whole world loves neophyte athletic tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami with the 95th pick. "Best pick in the draft,'' one AFC coach told me. "Give him time, and in that offense, he'll be better than [Jeremy] Shockey by the start of next year.''

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        • #34
          the browns need to stop being cheap, if they can pay eric steinbach 7 mil or whatever they can pay Joe Thomas, a potential franchise tackle the same.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by draftguru151 View Post
            And for the people complaining about rookie hold outs, just stop because if you were in that position you'd be trying to get every penny you could, the same thing happened with Bush last year and every one trashing him, just shut it because it's a business and it would be dumb for a player to not get as much as the can.
            One could easily argue that it may be worth more to come into camp and earn your starting spot. Most of these contracts are laced with incentives and your much more likely to get advertising money if your playing.

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            • #36
              Yah sometimes I wonder if sitting out hurts contract negotiations more than it helps. Attending preseason/training camp is sort of like extending the olive branch, and it also gives you the chance to show that you deserve that big of an investment.

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              • #37
                If I was Thomas I'd be lobbying for a contract bigger than the one Fergueson got last year. I think his was only 5 years and I expect Thomas to be signed to 6 so infact it could be alot more.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by njx9
                  are you implying an offensive lineman stands to gain a lot from endorsement deals?
                  He is actual in the UA commercials already. But I seriously doubt he gets any more endorsement deals, and if he does I doubt they will be because he got into camp on time and took a smaller contract.

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                  • #39
                    This is why the NFL (and NBA for that matter) need the arbitration system.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Acreboy View Post
                      Did the pack have a problem like this with AR?
                      Not a problem with him, but it took a long time for his agent and our capologist to work out a deal. He is paid like a back-up the first three years without having a large cap and received a signing bonus equal to his slot. He has large escalators and if he had started two years ago or last year would have received very large bonuses. Quinn is not sitting behind Brett Favre, so he'll likely be having a contract closer to the Skins' QB.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by marks01234 View Post
                        One could easily argue that it may be worth more to come into camp and earn your starting spot. Most of these contracts are laced with incentives and your much more likely to get advertising money if your playing.
                        You'll get both if you hold out when being low balled.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TPFKA#1SaintsFan View Post
                          Let's take a look at the contracts signed by the past three #3 overall draft picks:

                          Larry Fitzgerald - 6 years, $60 million, $20.4 million guaranteed
                          Braylon Edwards - 5 years, $40 million, $18.5 million guaranteed
                          Vince Young - 6 years, $58 million, $25.74 million guaranteed

                          Now why shouldn't Joe Thomas' contract be in that ballpark, again?
                          Because Joe Thomas won't impact a team's record the same way an offensive player (QB, RB, WR, TE) would. Don't get me wrong, offensive lineman are important to a team, but it's not as important as the other offensive positions that will actually put points on the score board. . . This is not to say Joe Thomas doesn't deserve a nice contract, but in no way should it be comparable to that of a franchise player at a different offensive position.

                          Fitzgerald, Edwards, and Young impact their teams way more than Joe Thomas ever could. . . That's just the reality of it.

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                          • #43
                            Yea WR more valuable than a LT, right.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by draftguru151 View Post
                              Yea WR more valuable than a LT, right.
                              Yup!

                              If you think a Joe Thomas will impact a team more than a Chad Johnson, then you're smoking some good ****. . . A good WR will always be more valuable than a good LT.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Contr0versy View Post
                                Yup!

                                If you think a Joe Thomas will impact a team more than a Chad Johnson, then you're smoking some good ****. . . A good WR will always be more valuable than a good LT.
                                See: Houston Texans.

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