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Brian Dawkins vs. Ed Reed: Who is the best FS in the league?

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  • #31
    Especially when Safety stats are indicative that the front seven isn't doing to job. Obviously isn't the case in Baltimore. With Thomas, Scott, Lewis and that D-Line absorbing all the Tackle stats.

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    • #32
      never even heard of kenny rhodes and look at his stats

      99 tackles
      5 sacks
      3 FF
      4 Int

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      • #33
        Originally posted by fenikz
        A Dub
        4 sacks
        4 FF
        4 Ints
        85 Tackles

        Reed
        0 sacks
        1 FF
        5 Ints
        60 Tackles

        Dawkins
        1 sack
        5 FF
        4 Int
        98 Tackles


        so its between Dawkins and A Dub for most complete Safety

        even though i probally take Reed over both of em
        Rhodes
        6 sacks
        3 FF
        5 Int
        98 tackles

        Rhodes is apparently more complete than all of them...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by fenikz
          never even heard of kenny rhodes and look at his stats

          99 tackles
          5 sacks
          3 FF
          4 Int
          You've never heard of Kerry Rhodes? Even if he was a bad safety this would be hurting your arguement. I agree A-Dub is very good, and very underrated and a top 10 safety, but I don't think he's in discussion with these two and isn't the best all-around.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by fenikz
            never even heard of kenny rhodes and look at his stats

            99 tackles
            5 sacks
            3 FF
            4 Int
            Yeah, it's Kerry. I posted at the same time as you.

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            • #36
              fenikz, look at the run defense rank of those teams;

              Ed Reed's defense allowed only 3.3 YPC against. It's kind of hard to rack up stats, when runners aren't getting to the secondary. New York Jets and Philadelphia Eagles were both bad in terms of YPC against, Arizona below average. You don't think that has something to do with Rhodes, Dawkins and Wilson's superior tackle stats?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Shiver
                fenikz, look at the run defense rank of those teams;

                Ed Reed's defense allowed only 3.3 YPC against. It's kind of hard to rack up stats, when runners aren't getting to the secondary. New York Jets and Philadelphia Eagles were both bad in terms of YPC against, Arizona below average. You don't think that has something to do with Rhodes, Dawkins and Wilson's superior tackle stats?
                Reed doesn't blitz, so sacks don't work so well for him, however Rhodes still had more picks and sacks than the other two.

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                • #38
                  im not discrediting any of them i just think A Dub should be in the conversation

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by aNYtitan
                    Last year it was Reed or Polamalu. Now its Dawkins or Reed. I say that Polamamlu is better then Dawkins, but Reed is the best safety in the league. Here is a better question, who is the better player in the secondary?

                    Ed Reed or Champ Bailey
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                    Peyton Manning Fanboy
                    Originally posted by Complex
                    They said I couldn't be a high school QB. They said I couldn't get a D1 scholarship. BeerBaron said I couldn't beat the Bears. - Tebow

                    Proving the doubters wrong.

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                    • #40
                      People really think Reed is more complete than Dawkins? Oh my...
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                      • #41
                        INTS:
                        Reed- 27 in 5 years
                        Dawkins- 32 in 11

                        Tackles:
                        Reed- 276 in 5, total 328
                        Dawkins- 625 in 11, total 800

                        Pass Deflections:
                        Reed- 36 in 5
                        Dawkins- 109 in 11

                        Return TDs
                        Reed- 3
                        Dawkins: 2

                        FF:
                        Reed- 5
                        dawkins- 27


                        Passed on stats alone its hard to tell, hitting wise its def dawkins, presence could be split depending on the opposing QB. Defending the pass its def. Reed, athletecism and awareness Reed. Physical intimidation is Dawkins, mentally id say Reed since he can taclke but he can get interceptionos out his ass.

                        Its pretty even staight up stats wise and based on their careers right now id tke reed, ill make my final decision in 5 years to see what else Ed can do. his resume is similiar and will only get better

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                        • #42
                          That's a good indication of what they're good at (but technically, they're both good at everything with one just being better), but it's a little misleading if you're comparing them, because Reed has been on the infinitely greater defense for his entire career, and thus was able to gamble to make big plays, or only have to worry about his own assignment. But after Reed, I think there's a significantly large gap between him and the next best Safety out there.
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                          • #43
                            Reed can blitz and stop the run well, he can lay the lumber ask Koren Robinson or Roscoe Parish. He plays deep cover 2 basically every play and we have Landry coming up closer to the LOS so we have Reed back there in coverage.

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                            • #44
                              ed reed and this shouldnt even be close

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                                Originally posted by fenikz
                                A Dub
                                4 sacks
                                4 FF
                                4 Ints
                                85 Tackles

                                Reed
                                0 sacks
                                1 FF
                                5 Ints
                                60 Tackles

                                Dawkins
                                1 sack
                                5 FF
                                4 Int
                                98 Tackles


                                so its between Dawkins and A Dub for most complete Safety

                                even though i probally take Reed over both of em
                                Reed would have a lot more tackles if the Ravens' defense wasn't so good.
                                exactly

                                i think baltimore was 2nd to last in total tackles... a testament of getting the offense off the field quicker


                                Go Ravens!

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