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The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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Originally posted by njx9ah. yes. so, if i get a DUI during my free time, my work shouldn't be able to fire me, even though such a problem would prevent me from being able to do my job. but you think that because it happened during my free time, they shouldn't have any recourse whatsoever and should be forced to continue to pay me until such time as i was able to work again.
that's utterly asinine.
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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Originally posted by njx9ah. yes. so, if i get a DUI during my free time, my work shouldn't be able to fire me, even though such a problem would prevent me from being able to do my job. but you think that because it happened during my free time, they shouldn't have any recourse whatsoever and should be forced to continue to pay me until such time as i was able to work again.
that's utterly asinine.
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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Originally posted by njx9human resources can fire me for blowing lines at work. why should the owner of the company be able to fire me? or, the manager of my mall kiosk can fire me. why should corporate be able to?
come on. you're better than this.
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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Originally posted by njx9that's not true. it would be akin to my division wanting to fire me, or the company wide HR wanting to fire me. the NFL is the company. the teams are parts of that whole. unless you think the colts could decide to give the NFL a big middle finger and go play CFL football if they wanted? your example is similar to the player's union deciding to step in, NOT the league.
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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Originally posted by njx9again. the raiders can't just leave the nfl and decide to join the CFL. your analogy is, quite simply, incorrect.
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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Originally posted by njx9you're dodging the question. could any NFL team LEAVE the nfl if it chose to?
Originally posted by njx9your comparison relates to a union. it's just not a good analogy.
Originally posted by njx9the NFL owns all rights to football broadcasts. NOT the individual teams. if the NFL is just a loose coalition of teams, why did EA have to negotiate with the NFL rather than with specific teams for licensing of its game? why couldn't, say, the raiders have opted out and sold their rights to someone else for more money?
Originally posted by njx9what's the point of having VPs if there are CEO's and directors?Last edited by Dam8610; 07-05-2007, 11:20 AM.
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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Originally posted by Dam8610 View PostOakland is free to fire him if they feel that doing so is the best course of action. Why should the NFL suspend him?
A suspension is alot better than the league kicking him out...
I don't know many businesses that would let you get a DUI and not get fired/punished for it.
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Originally posted by WinslowBodden View PostI don't know many businesses that would let you get a DUI and not get fired/punished for it.
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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Originally posted by Dam8610 View PostThen let the employer punish him, not the governing body. That's my entire point.
Grand idea!
The government is the law, the commish is the law, don't break the law.
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Originally posted by WinslowBodden View PostSo if I got a DUI my employer should punish me and I should get out of it completely free from the government? I mean our society would be so awesome if it were like that!!! Someone could own a business and hire a bunch of people as hitmen, and since the government shouldn't punish them, and the employer is a criminal, they would never go to jail!
Grand idea!
The government is the law, the commish is the law, don't break the law.
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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Originally posted by Dam8610 View PostIs the concept of a governing body really this difficult to understand? He's already dealt with the law, it's up to the Raiders to punish him after that.
So then the government as you call it steps in and does their job... The NFL has every right to suspend someone who has broken a law, because most of the times teams won't do it... Wasn't Pac Man only suspended like one game compared to the 16 the "Government" gave him.
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You can't have teams hand out punishments for their own players with the NFL left out of the entire process. You'll have teams that will be strict and keep all their players in line with harsh punishments, and then you'll have teams that will, for the most part, let their players do whatever they want with very little punishment. You have to have an unbiased body that gives out consistent punishments.
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Originally posted by WinslowBodden View PostNo it isn't... Do you think teams really want to suspend their players for 4 games? No...
So then the government as you call it steps in and does their job... The NFL has every right to suspend someone who has broken a law, because most of the times teams won't do it... Wasn't Pac Man only suspended like one game compared to the 16 the "Government" gave him."We're only going to score 17 points?" Brady said before chuckling about it. "OK. Is Plax playing defense? I wish he had said 45-42 and gave us a little credit for scoring more points."
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Originally posted by njx9because you said so? seriously? fine, i'll even take your word for it.
"Crucial to the SEC's effectiveness in each of these areas is its enforcement authority. Each year the SEC brings hundreds of civil enforcement actions against individuals and companies for violation of the securities laws." -http://www.sec.gov/about/whatwedo.shtml
the SEC has brought lawsuits against INDIVIDUALS for violations of its laws. the NFL has, similarly, suspended INDIVIDUALS for violations of its laws. how is this a good comparison that is favorable for your argument again? because i couldn't get fired and get slapped with a lawsuit from the SEC? what?Last edited by Dam8610; 07-05-2007, 01:36 PM.
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.
If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
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