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  • #61
    Originally posted by Shiver View Post
    I could say the same about you. Michael Vick's one downfall, of which the critics are always harping on, is his passer rating. The past two years he has a higher passer rating than Brett Farve. To be better than Michael Vick, to equal his home run ability as a runner, you need to be a flat out superior passer. That's because Michael Vick changes the entire complexion of the game, in ways few QBs in NFL history (Vince Young being the lone exception in today's NFL) have been able to do. At least as a passer he has more touchdowns than interceptions, which is more than you can say about Brett Favre.

    Favre is only making lists based on nostalgia. If he wasn't a former MVP, Hall of Fame caliber, player, people would deride him like they do Rex Grossman. Who at this point, in the '05-present era, is better than Favre is. People have turned blinded themselves to just how lousy Favre is, at this point in his career. If anything he is holding the Packers back.


    Yea Vick has had a better QB Rating, but only by a few points. You would expect somebody like Vick who's going in his 7th year to be head and shoulders above an old man like Favre, but he isn't.

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    • #62
      If you don't think Vick is a top-10 QB, that's fine. However, I would LOVE to hear a rationale as to why Favre is a top-10 QB. It boggles my mind.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by 22,895 View Post
        Yea Vick has had a better QB Rating, but only by a few points. You would expect somebody like Vick who's going in his 7th year to be head and shoulders above an old man like Favre, but he isn't.

        TD's to turnovers my friend. Read the post I made breaking the stats down. Even when I took away makes Vick extra valuable, he is still better than Favre.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Shiver View Post
          If you don't think Vick is a top-10 QB, that's fine. However, I would LOVE to hear a rationale as to why Favre is a top-10 QB. It boggles my mind.
          His career numbers.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by 22,895 View Post
            His career numbers.
            Top-10 all-time, sure. As for the here and now, no way.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by 22,895 View Post
              His career numbers.

              By that logic, how aren't Marino and Elway on this?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by ATLDirtyBirds View Post
                TD's to turnovers my friend. Read the post I made breaking the stats down. Even when I took away makes Vick extra valuable, he is still better than Favre.
                Yep that's fine and dandy and all that, but he isn't head and shoulders above Favre, but you can make a case that Favre's worse year is better than Vick's best year.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ATLDirtyBirds View Post
                  By that logic, how aren't Marino and Elway on this?
                  They aren't playing right now.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Shiver View Post
                    Top-10 all-time, sure. As for the here and now, no way.
                    The rules for this thing.

                    You can do you're top 10 anyway like what they have done in their career or last 3-5 years doesn't matter

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by 22,895 View Post
                      Yep that's fine and dandy and all that, but he isn't head and shoulders above Favre, but you can make a case that Favre's worse year is better than Vick's best year.

                      How? How in the hell can you make a case for 20/29 season over a 20/13 season?

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by 22,895 View Post
                        The rules for this thing.

                        You can do you're top 10 anyway like what they have done in their career or last 3-5 years doesn't matter
                        Well that's stupid, in my opinion. It just is a poor way to run an "All-NFLDC" rankings, when there is no set standard. Secondly; I shouldn't have been called out for my list then, because I was doing "my" list based on the present.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by ATLDirtyBirds View Post
                          How? How in the hell can you make a case for 20/29 season over a 20/13 season?
                          Favre's Yards Average is better, and his Completion percentage is better.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by 22,895 View Post
                            Favre's Yards Average is better, and his Completion percentage is better.

                            What affects a game more? Yards and Completions, or Touchdowns and Turnovers?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Shiver View Post
                              Well that's stupid, in my opinion. It just is a poor way to run an "All-NFLDC" rankings, when there is no set standard. Secondly; I shouldn't have been called out for my list then, because I was doing "my" list based on the present.
                              Looking back on the posts nobody called you're list out. When you made the statement that Young and Favre should not be in the Top 10 that's when a Packer fan disagreed with you then that's when I felt like debating for giggles and grins.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by 22,895 View Post
                                Looking back on the posts nobody called you're list out. When you made the statement that Young and Favre should not be in the Top 10 that's when a Packer fan disagreed with you then that's when I felt like debating for giggles and grins.

                                Originally posted by TitleTown088 View Post
                                I'm actually not goign to say somthing like , " Brett Favre is top 10 !!!!" but,
                                dude, you got Mike Vick in your top ten. That's worse than having Favre in there.
                                That was a call out, no matter how you spin it.

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