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  • #46
    1. Rivers
    2. Losman
    3. Roethlisberger
    4. Manning

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    • #47
      Eli never wins these threads. At this moment, i'm still going to have to go. Big Ben's SB victory is the only thing that keeps him above Losman. He completely sucked this season.

      1. Rivers
      2. Eli
      3. Ben
      4. Losman

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      • #48
        Still too early to judge
        let look back into this in 10 years 8)
        Michael Vick 2.0 = Part 2 - 2011 NFL Season

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        • #49
          QB name QB Rating in '06 Rank in NFL
          Rivers 92.0 started all games 8
          Losman 84.9 started all games 11
          Eli 77.0 started all games 18
          Ben 75.4 stared 15 games 21

          QB name QB Rating in '05 Rank in NFL
          Rivers 50.4 played in 2 games Below 30
          Losman 64.9 played in 9 gmaes Below 30
          Eli 75.9 started all games 23
          Ben 98.6 played in 12 games 3

          QB name QB Ranting in '04 Rank in NFL
          Rivers 110.9 played in 2 games Tied for 2
          Losman 39.2 played in 4 games Below 30
          Eli 55.4 played in 9 games Below 30
          Ben 98.1 playd in 14 games 5

          Going by the QB rating it's

          Ben
          Rivers
          Losman/Eli

          But IMO

          Rivers
          Ben
          Losman
          Eli

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bills_red
            QB name QB Rating in '06 Rank in NFL
            Rivers 92.0 started all games 8
            Losman 84.9 started all games 11
            Eli 77.0 started all games 18
            Ben 75.4 stared 15 games 21

            QB name QB Rating in '05 Rank in NFL
            Rivers 50.4 played in 2 games Below 30
            Losman 64.9 played in 9 gmaes Below 30
            Eli 75.9 started all games 23
            Ben 98.6 played in 12 games 3

            QB name QB Ranting in '04 Rank in NFL
            Rivers 110.9 played in 2 games Tied for 2
            Losman 39.2 played in 4 games Below 30
            Eli 55.4 played in 9 games Below 30
            Ben 98.1 playd in 14 games 5

            Going by the QB rating it's

            Ben
            Rivers
            Losman/Eli

            But IMO

            Rivers
            Ben
            Losman
            Eli
            I wouldn't bother putting Losman in 04 and Rivers in 04 or 05 for obvious reasons.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Space Ghost
              Originally posted by bills_red
              QB name QB Rating in '06 Rank in NFL
              Rivers 92.0 started all games 8
              Losman 84.9 started all games 11
              Eli 77.0 started all games 18
              Ben 75.4 stared 15 games 21

              QB name QB Rating in '05 Rank in NFL
              Rivers 50.4 played in 2 games Below 30
              Losman 64.9 played in 9 gmaes Below 30
              Eli 75.9 started all games 23
              Ben 98.6 played in 12 games 3

              QB name QB Ranting in '04 Rank in NFL
              Rivers 110.9 played in 2 games Tied for 2
              Losman 39.2 played in 4 games Below 30
              Eli 55.4 played in 9 games Below 30
              Ben 98.1 playd in 14 games 5

              Going by the QB rating it's

              Ben
              Rivers
              Losman/Eli

              But IMO

              Rivers
              Ben
              Losman
              Eli
              I wouldn't bother putting Losman in 04 and Rivers in 04 or 05 for obvious reasons.
              Agree, but I did

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              • #52
                I don't get how you can't pick Roethlisberger, he was the 10th pick (I had him going 3rd to the Cardinals) and he led his team to the superbowl (He didn't do very much in the super bowl however)

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                • #53
                  The QB gets WAY too much credit when their team wins the Super Bowl. Why not the running back? He is just as important as the QB, without a running game you can't win. Look at Dan Marino. It is a team sport, number of rings shouldn't be considered when talking about who is better. I would take Marino over Bradshaw any day. I say:
                  Rivers
                  Manning
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                  Losman
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                  • #54
                    I always thought Big Ben, even before draft day, was going to be the best of the four and I can assume I'm right for the time being. He does have a ring and he will recover nicely this year. He had a rough year last year with his own injuries and team injuries but he'll be fine.


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                    • #55
                      What if his name was Eli Weathersby?


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                      • #56
                        Rivers cant make the big plays. he is the king of throwing to Tomlinson at 2 yards, then Tomlinson busting it out for a huge run. Rivers would have had a QB rating below 40 in the playoff game if not for Tomlinson making that huge run off a nothing pass.....

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                        • #57
                          you can say that Big Ben is better than Eli because he did win a superbowl, and MAYBE Rivers because SD went 14-2. But he doesnt have a playoff win, neither does Eli.

                          but JP LOSMAN!? Absolutely nothing to show for at all. If you consider him better than Eli Manning then you have some problems.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by YAYareaRB
                            What if his name was Eli Weathersby?
                            Probably would have gone just as high. He was a great prospect

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                            • #59
                              My personal rankings are:

                              1. Ben Roethlisberger
                              2. Philip Rivers
                              3. JP Losman
                              4. Eli Manning

                              Big Ben is number one for me because he is the most mature of the four and has played in the most games and had the most success. He had posted great career numbers until this year when he had to throw more often then he is accustomed to and was probably in worse shape than he let on after the surgery, accident and injury. He had a bad season this year, but is the most proven so far and has had the most success.

                              Rivers had a great year this year in a quarterback friendly system, but he had his bumps late in the season and had a couple awful games. He had the best quarterback rating of the bunch this season and made the pro bowl but didn't play due to injury. He is the least experienced in the NFL but had the most preparation for his NFL debut.

                              JP Losman was statistically the second best of the bunch this year for the Bills wither perhaps the least talent and worst offensive line. He had a fantastic season, especially after the bye week where he started to get hot. He made some comebacks and got the Bills to a 7-9 record. He had his few bad games like everyone else did this year, most notably that game in Chicago, that was a bad day...

                              Eli Manning has been the most inconsistent player probably. He hasn't really even been able to pull out a good stretch of games to look at ass successful. He had the worst year of all the quarterbacks this year in my opinion because he didn't go through what Roethlisberger did and he still came up empty.

                              EDIT.

                              I guess I kind of missed the point of this thread though after that. The best pick in the draft of these four was Ben Roethlisberger. Both at the time of the draft and now. At the time of the draft I had the rankings as Manning/Roethlisberger/Rivers/Losman and Ben lasted until the Steelers pick and they got a steal. They also got the most production the earliest and also got a Super Bowl with him, I don't think you can argue that Ben wasn't the best pick, especially when Manning and Rivers weren't necessarily drafted by their teams so you kind of have to eliminate them.

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                              • #60
                                Gotta be roethlisberger, he's the only one who has won anything.

                                Eli, JP and Rivers havent done anything in the postseason and thats when it counts

                                fenikz

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