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  • #46
    Originally posted by lod01
    Originally posted by The Unseen
    Originally posted by cardsalltheway
    Originally posted by RaiderNation
    i will take any qb, just if we get CJ from it
    If he can't do anything with Andre Johnson, he's not going to do anything next year with CJ.
    Andre Johnson had over 100 catches this year. What's he got to do with Carr's failure exactly?
    Because Carr can't throw a football past 10 yards and expect a completion. Andre is an all around threat as a receiver and David Carr neutralized half his game. All Andre did this year was run 5-10 yard routes so as to get the ball. Last night they showed one of these routes on NFL Network and what did carr do? Nothing, he watched Andre run WIDE open across in front of him and did not throw the football. Instead he curled up like the sissy he is and took another sack. The o-line can only protect you so long. Whne you SUCK, you rack up sacks like no other. The blame for this guy's miserable play has always been deflected.

    ZERO winning season out of 5.
    Can't read a defense as shown above (hot read Andre Wide open).Takes off with the football when no pressure because his #1 is covered. Loves to run out of bounds for a loss = ANOTHER SACK that gets blamed on the o-line.

    He had a running game this year, 2 Pro Bowl WR's.....amazingly now Moulds is called washed up....good job carr. I knew Moulds made a mistake going there. O-line blokced very well this year. The running game produced some late victories.....carr was neutralized bt the coaching staff. A great move, now he needs neutralized permanently.

    Whoever gets this 100% COMPLETE LOSER, will wonder what happened 4 games into the year when they are staring at 0-4.
    Everything I bolded is just completely wrong, you obviously did not watch the Texans very closely. First of all no Carr didn't take many shots downfield because most of the time once the recievers get into their routes Carr would have been sacked already. Andre got plenty of semi deep passes thrown to him where he caught it over his shoulder running down the sideline. Wow, there was a play where a WR was open and his qb didn't see him?!?! Every qb has a play or two like that a season, and usually Carr didn't miss wide open guys all that often and our guys weren't as open as they should have been.

    You cannot have actually watched a Texans game and say that the reason Carr is getting sacked is not the offensive line. The O line was good at the beginning of the season, and guess who played well in the beginning of the season? That's right David Carr. In fact he had the highest qb rating in the NFL during that period, not that he was the best qb, but he was playing well. Then injury plagued our offensive line and the blocking became atrocious.

    Usually when Carr takes off it's because he has to evade a defender in his "pocket of protection" and has to temporarily take his eyes off of his receivers, and once he realizes he won't have time to make the throw he usually ends up running it. Trusting his offensive linemen was a luxury that Carr did not have, most qb's have someone reliable to cover their blindside, but sure enough on nearly every play there was someone in Carr's face that he had to deal with. As for running out of bounds, he can't go that far if he can't get down-the-field blocking. In that situation he needs to throw the ball away, that is a problem for him, but no one here is mistaking Carr for Peyton Manning.

    Our running game sucked this year. Ron Dayne? He is completely out of shape and the only reason his numbers are almost respectable is because he got them in clumps against the Raiders and the Colts. We had about 1,500 total rushing yards and our qb put up 200 of those. 1,300 total rushing yards is horrible, our run game could not be relied upon because it was so inconsistent. Every gain that Dayne made against the Colts should have been bigger. He tripped over his feet countless times and failed to make the play as well. Dayne is not a capable starter in the NFL.

    2 Pro Bowl receivers? Andre is legitimate, but if you are calling Eric Moulds a pro bowl caliber receiver then you are a complete moron. He used to be a pro bowl caliber receiver, but he isn't anymore. He is a solid #2 option, and that is it.

    Thank you for putting your uninformed view of the Texans out there, it gave me a good laugh especially this part
    O-line blokced very well this year
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    • #47
      He's staying with the Texans.

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      • #48
        Carr just holds on to the ball WAY to long, i see him every season verse the Titans we will always sack him five or six times a game, then they bring in Sage Rosenfels and he moves the ball down the field and doesn't get sack once. It's always fun playing the texans with Carr at QB :D

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        • #49
          lod01 shouldn't be allowed to talk or discuss anything about Carr.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Eagles own the NFC East
            Make sense Carr would be a great fit in Oakland.
            Yes, another QB with a slow release and poor ability to read defenses. Another Brooks who will keep them drafting in the top 10. Another Al Davis experiment that keeps Oakland as a bottom feeder.
            And proud of it!!!

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            • #51
              At worst, Calvin Johnson is absolute trash. I'm sorry, but nobody in any draft is ever at worst a borderline pro-bowler. He's a great prospect, and that's al right now.


              Originally posted by Scott Wright
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              do i tell you when to flip the burger?

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              • #52
                How in the hell did David Carr go #1 in the draft?


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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                  How in the hell did David Carr go #1 in the draft?
                  People weren't aware of the Tedford factor, today he'd be a round 2 pick as will any Tedford QB from now on if not worse.
                  And proud of it!!!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                    How in the hell did David Carr go #1 in the draft?
                    He went 19th out of Cal.

                    Bah, mistook him for Kyle Boller. Don't mind me.

                    Originally posted by Patriots-Lions
                    Dave is right
                    Originally posted by duckseason
                    Brady is 'just' the Queen on Belichick's chess board.

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                    • #55
                      David Carr and Kyle Boller are both still very promising young players, they just need a few things ironed out.

                      Carr is a strong, well-built athlete who is an effective scrambler with the arm strength to make every throw needed in the NFL. He has brilliant pocket presence and can avoid the rush extremely well. He can throw off his back foot and won't force the ball into traffic. For his experience his progressions are very well developed. His only real knock has ever been that he can at times hold onto the ball too long instead of running or throwing it away when his receivers are covered.

                      He's never had a coach stabilize his situation, never had an offensive line or a truly effective running game and he's only ever had one decent receiver till they brought in Eric Moulds, at which time his system gets changed and he has to deal with a new QB.

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                      • #56
                        Andre Johnson is a great WR.
                        "We're only going to score 17 points?" Brady said before chuckling about it. "OK. Is Plax playing defense? I wish he had said 45-42 and gave us a little credit for scoring more points."

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by BlindSite
                          David Carr and Kyle Boller are both still very promising young players, they just need a few things ironed out.

                          Carr is a strong, well-built athlete who is an effective scrambler with the arm strength to make every throw needed in the NFL. He has brilliant pocket presence and can avoid the rush extremely well. He can throw off his back foot and won't force the ball into traffic. For his experience his progressions are very well developed. His only real knock has ever been that he can at times hold onto the ball too long instead of running or throwing it away when his receivers are covered.

                          He's never had a coach stabilize his situation, never had an offensive line or a truly effective running game and he's only ever had one decent receiver till they brought in Eric Moulds, at which time his system gets changed and he has to deal with a new QB.
                          I agree with that assessment, but if Carr can't get his feet set the ball has a tendency to sail on him, or just land in the dirt, he can still get dump offs when he is off balance.

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                          • #58
                            Any WR no matter how physically impressive is decent until their route running improves. Johnson is on his way to great, he's not there yet...

                            Besides him being double covered on every play doesn't help.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by CutlerChris
                              At worst, Calvin Johnson is absolute trash. I'm sorry, but nobody in any draft is ever at worst a borderline pro-bowler. He's a great prospect, and that's al right now.
                              Finally someone else. Help spread the word!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by cunningham06
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                                You cannot have actually watched a Texans game and say that the reason Carr is getting sacked is not the offensive line. The O line was good at the beginning of the season, and guess who played well in the beginning of the season? That's right David Carr. In fact he had the highest qb rating in the NFL during that period, not that he was the best qb, but he was playing well. Then injury plagued our offensive line and the blocking became atrocious.

                                Usually when Carr takes off it's because he has to evade a defender in his "pocket of protection" and has to temporarily take his eyes off of his receivers, and once he realizes he won't have time to make the throw he usually ends up running it. Trusting his offensive linemen was a luxury that Carr did not have, most qb's have someone reliable to cover their blindside, but sure enough on nearly every play there was someone in Carr's face that he had to deal with. As for running out of bounds, he can't go that far if he can't get down-the-field blocking. In that situation he needs to throw the ball away, that is a problem for him, but no one here is mistaking Carr for Peyton Manning.

                                Our running game sucked this year. Ron Dayne? He is completely out of shape and the only reason his numbers are almost respectable is because he got them in clumps against the Raiders and the Colts. We had about 1,500 total rushing yards and our qb put up 200 of those. 1,300 total rushing yards is horrible, our run game could not be relied upon because it was so inconsistent. Every gain that Dayne made against the Colts should have been bigger. He tripped over his feet countless times and failed to make the play as well. Dayne is not a capable starter in the NFL.

                                2 Pro Bowl receivers? Andre is legitimate, but if you are calling Eric Moulds a pro bowl caliber receiver then you are a complete moron. He used to be a pro bowl caliber receiver, but he isn't anymore. He is a solid #2 option, and that is it.

                                Thank you for putting your uninformed view of the Texans out there, it gave me a good laugh especially this part
                                O-line blokced very well this year
                                .
                                Wow you got no clue. I just hit on a couple of your ridiculously bad observations.

                                The Raiders have one of the best defenses this past year. They had 542 runs agains them...because the OFFENSE sucked. They were able to hold the opposing team to 4.0 ypc even though they LIVED on the field. That's a fact. Also, the fact that RON DAYNE averaged 4.1 ypc says the o-line was FANTASTIC to open up holes for a fat out of shape RB, wouldn't you say? You did say he was out of shape....he averaged 4.1 ypc as a fat out of shape RB.. Understand? He sucked according to you yet he had 4.1 ypc. Expalin that. I can. It's called an o-line opening up holes.

                                Agaisnt Oakland, somehow the O-line could allow Dayne this fantastic game. Also you failed to mention that the fat slow out of shape Dayne busted out for 5.2 vs NE. Explain that one. Nevermind.

                                Now onto the sackmaster carr. Same game carr pumped out 4 sacks in the 1st half Sage R. was sacked ZERO times vs TENN. No need to even go further there. That's a fact.

                                I love the 'cling to carr's QB rating part. I wonder why? I'll explain. It's called dink and dunk. Here's a quote from Keith Bullock after a game vs Texans: 'David Carr isn't a threat to win a game. You just let him have those short throws becasue we know he can't beat us deep.'

                                he sees what I see and you cannot grasp. But hey, you do have that fantastic QB rating .....and tons of LOSSES to back it's validity up.

                                The fact is simple. Carr sucks and will be a loser wherever he goes. Also, you don't know what you are talking about as shown above.

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