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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ghettosermon
    I've always wondered why my current homestate Virginia has no professional sports teams, I mean the best we had was the Dazzle of the NBDL and they even took them away from us last year. I mean Virginia is a big state probably our most historically traditional state and the home of all the first presidents and the Jamestown colony. I mean what do we need to do to get a team, it's not like we are North Dakota or anything, no harm intended.
    Yes because the fact that James Madison is from Virginia has a lot to do with where you put an NFL team.

    A large % of the population is suburban D.C. Richmond and Norfolk are moderately-sized cities but come on..get real.


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    • #32
      Originally posted by bearsfan_51
      Originally posted by Ghettosermon
      I've always wondered why my current homestate Virginia has no professional sports teams, I mean the best we had was the Dazzle of the NBDL and they even took them away from us last year. I mean Virginia is a big state probably our most historically traditional state and the home of all the first presidents and the Jamestown colony. I mean what do we need to do to get a team, it's not like we are North Dakota or anything, no harm intended.
      Yes because the fact that James Madison is from Virginia has a lot to do with where you put an NFL team.

      A large % of the population is suburban D.C. Richmond and Norfolk are moderately-sized cities but come on..get real.
      The fact that James Madison is from Virginia is reason enough to keep the NFL out of Virginia.

      And, no, Virginia people, I don't mean for that to be taken seriously.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jughead10
        Originally posted by bearsfan_51
        Originally posted by princefielder28
        Jacksonville needs to be out of the NFL and the team needs to be put in a place where fans are starving for a team. I don't think LA really is starving for a team, but one city that would do anything in the world would be Las Vegas!!! Look at Green Bay and Kansas City, two cities that lack success in anything else, but when it comes to football, that is what they live for.
        Las Vegas makes so much less sense than Los Angeles. It's just a much smaller version with even bigger concerns. NBA teams can work in smaller-city markets that the NFL cannot. This is why an NBA team can play in Oklahoma City, which would never be feasible for an NFL team.
        I don't get why Oklahmo City woudl never be feasible for an NFL team. Please explain. I always thought Portland would be a good spot for an NFL team.
        He was referring to OK City for the NBA, but with Vegas there's always gonna be people circulating through and people would attract to the NFL going on there, especially if it's difficult for them to get to a game in there hometown


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        • #34
          Originally posted by yourfavestoner
          Originally posted by bearsfan_51
          Originally posted by Ghettosermon
          I've always wondered why my current homestate Virginia has no professional sports teams, I mean the best we had was the Dazzle of the NBDL and they even took them away from us last year. I mean Virginia is a big state probably our most historically traditional state and the home of all the first presidents and the Jamestown colony. I mean what do we need to do to get a team, it's not like we are North Dakota or anything, no harm intended.
          Yes because the fact that James Madison is from Virginia has a lot to do with where you put an NFL team.

          A large % of the population is suburban D.C. Richmond and Norfolk are moderately-sized cities but come on..get real.
          The fact that James Madison is from Virginia is reason enough to keep the NFL out of Virginia.

          And, no, Virginia people, I don't mean for that to be taken seriously.
          And George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. :D

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          • #35
            I'm all for a team in Vegas. Put the field in the center of a casino, I'm getting chills just thinking about it. It would be the greatest spectacle on Earth.

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            • #36
              If I were a billionaire who was interested not only in die-hard fans, but cold, hard economics I would pick San Antonio. South Texas could support a professional football team. The Alamodome is already built! Austin is just as good an option, and ideally a suburb between the two would be ideal if you don't mind building a new stadium but want to maximize your TV coverage and fanbase. Texas can support a third football team, and I'd be willing to bet millions on it.

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              • #37
                Buffalo has some die hard fans though.
                Yes but Jacksonville at least has money and industries that can invest in the advertisements, media market, etc.

                Fans are honestly a very overated aspect of what makes a market.
                Exactly. Why are the Bills in the threat to move? Because of the real issue in franchise stability: stadiums and the tickets. Ralph Wilson Stadium needs to be replaced, but the city won't bite. The Bills had blackouts later in the season.

                Just to expound on what YFS said about stadium seating for the Jaguars: Alltel Stadium (no longer, as seen in the article) is somewhere in the top 5-10 in seating compared to the rest of the league; in fact, I thought I remember somewhere seeing it listed at #4, but I'm being safe with the 5-10 thing just in case. It's that way because of the Gator Bowl, and eventually it was for the Super Bowl and the ACC Championship game (which hardly draws in of itself...). That's way impractical for the Jacksonville market.

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                • #38
                  Stoner, how the hell did you understand all this? Aren't all your brain cells gone from your dates with Mary Jane?



                  Good read though. I think Las Vegas could support a team. The gambling capital of the world. Tourists there all the time. I think it would do pretty darn well.


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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ward
                    If I were a billionaire who was interested not only in die-hard fans, but cold, hard economics I would pick San Antonio. South Texas could support a professional football team. The Alamodome is already built! Austin is just as good an option, and ideally a suburb between the two would be ideal if you don't mind building a new stadium but want to maximize your TV coverage and fanbase. Texas can support a third football team, and I'd be willing to bet millions on it.
                    UT-Austin is a pro football team. It's the same reason why Columbus doesn't have a pro-team (outside of hockey).


                    Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                    • #40
                      Football stadiums should always be sold out. Plain and simple. It is the easiest and most affordable sport to own season tickets in.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Jughead10
                        Football stadiums should always be sold out. Plain and simple. It is the easiest and most affordable sport to own season tickets in.
                        Easiest? How in the world is it the easiest?

                        And in response to your comment about Oklahoma City, you could start with the fact that the entire metro population is just slightly over 1 million. Cleveland, by contrast, a city that is considered a small market, still has about 2.5 million. It would make just as little sense to put an NFL team in Oklahoma City as it did to put one in Jacksonville.

                        An NBA team, by contrast, only needs to sell 15-20 thousand tickets per game, and non-season tickets can be bought for 15-20 bucks so even non-fans can still go to a few games each year with their family and not have to spend very much money.


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                        • #42
                          If anybody ever goes up to Northern Virginia you would realize how big it is and in some areas like Pentagon City, Rosslyn and Crystal City, are becoming more of their own cities rather than suburbs, so if you can have a team in BAL, why not in N VA?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by sweetness34
                            Stoner, how the hell did you understand all this? Aren't all your brain cells gone from your dates with Mary Jane?



                            Good read though. I think Las Vegas could support a team. The gambling capital of the world. Tourists there all the time. I think it would do pretty darn well.
                            Stoner is his last name Anyway, weed doesnt kill brain cells, only numbs them, they come back later on. Alcohol kills them.

                            Like Ward said, Texas could easily support a 3rd team.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by neko4
                              If anybody ever goes up to Northern Virginia you would realize how big it is and in some areas like Pentagon City, Rosslyn and Crystal City, are becoming more of their own cities rather than suburbs, so if you can have a team in BAL, why not in N VA?
                              Don't the Redskins already play in Farifax County? Seriously. It's like 30 minutes. The Redskins are Northern Virginia's team just as much as they are DC's (which nobody really lives in D.C anyway). Whether or not Baltimore deserves it's own team is up for debate I suppose, but the Baltimore-D.C-Northern Virginia metropolitan area is the 4th largest in the country I believe. That should constitute two teams, which it has. Having three teams would just be stupid.


                              Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by bearsfan_51
                                Originally posted by neko4
                                If anybody ever goes up to Northern Virginia you would realize how big it is and in some areas like Pentagon City, Rosslyn and Crystal City, are becoming more of their own cities rather than suburbs, so if you can have a team in BAL, why not in N VA?
                                Don't the Redskins already play in Farifax County? Seriously. It's like 30 minutes. The Redskins are Northern Virginia's team just as much as they are DC's (which nobody really lives in D.C anyway). Whether or not Baltimore deserves it's own team is up for debate I suppose, but the Baltimore-D.C-Northern Virginia metropolitan area is the 4th largest in the country I believe. That should constitute two teams, which it has. Having three teams would just be stupid.
                                I think the Skins are technically in Maryland.

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