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  • #16
    You can start with maybe catching at least 20% of the balls thrown his way. Maybe then you can get into route running or blocking, but if he can't catch the football then why run proper routes?

    P.S. Troy Williamson does not deserve his own thread. He doesn't even deserve to have this post devoted to him, but I'm being nice.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by etk
      P.S. Troy Williamson does not deserve his own thread

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      • #18
        I didn't feel right letting Troy get off so easy with my previous post. So here goes. Hope I don't miss anything:

        He has a terrible attitude and is lazy. His rookie season he got benched for pulling himself out of practice without telling coaches; he was in Tice's doghouse for the rest of the year. This year he sulked and cried about returning kicks. You could read his body language and tell he wasn't going 100%. He had a poor attitude after he was demoted, and Childress said so himself. He had such a poor attitude and play so pisspoor, that Childress deactivated him the week 17 in what was basically an exhibition game; a game that would have been nice to get him some experience.

        He cannot adjust to the football. He is clumsy, uncoordinated. I could walk through my local park and see kids playing flag football who are more polished than Williamson.

        This season the ball hit many different body parts of his wall trying to make a catch. A ball bounced off his face mask while trying to make a catch, of his helmet, his shoulder, his chest, etc etc. He doesn't just have a case of the dropsies, he literally embarrasses himself when trying to catch the ball.

        He is a stick figure. He is one of the weakest players in the NFL. If he does happen to catch the ball, God forbid, he goes down at the slightest of contact. He is terrible getting off of the line. He probably couldn't beat the jam of any given high school cornerback.

        Terrible route runner. He runs sloppy routes and rounds off his routes. He has good straight line speed but that's about it; he isn't that fast when he has to make cuts. Terrible body control. He gets going and can't stop.




        Hope this helps.
        "Kenny Phillips has the body of Sean Taylor and the speed and knowledge of Ed Reed"

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        RIP Sean Taylor
        4/1/1983 - 11/27/2007

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The Unseen
          Originally posted by jetsfan3
          His main problem is drops.
          I also believe that the sky is blue.
          Well ever since the sky turned purple...

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          • #20
            I cant attest to his attitude but personally I am willing to give him a shot for the simple reason that to say he was considered raw coming out is an understatement, add to that he became the number 1 receiver (by default) with a QB who cant throw just helped to highlight his problems whilst not getting a chance to showcase his upside.

            He was thrown into a bad situation, he seems to be fragile mentally. Not a good combination. Who knows if he'll ever bring it back, history would suggest not I guess.

            Although I did *read* (instant disclaimer) that he was the last man out of the facility last year often trying to work on stuff.
            What if everyone simultaneously disobeys?
            It aint a game if no one plays, oh.

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            • #21
              What is most of your feeling's on Braylon Edwards, the other receiver taken very high in that draft?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by WinslowBodden
                What is most of your feeling's on Braylon Edwards, the other receiver taken very high in that draft?
                I can't believe he couldn't corral that hail mary pass for a touchdown. He juggled the ball like TO, but I don't remember who they were playing, but it was bad :shock:

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                • #23
                  I think coming into is third year and with TJ's cannon arm he might come good, he will be much better suited to the slot and can excell if he can ajust to the ball better.

                  He needs to have his contract restructured though, he does not deserve a 40 mill contract.

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                  • #24
                    Williamson has no hope. He won't just turn into a good wide receiver over night or even over the summer. He can't develop ball skills, route running ability, defense reading ability, and hands that soon, he is too raw for a raw player even. He is a very big and fast person, but he is not a good football player, he wasn't even that great at S.Carolina, he has like 2 catches that actually meant something in his entire career there.

                    Edwards is gonna be good, he's crazy, but he'll be a good player with multiple 1000 yard years...Williamson is a bust past/present/future

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                    • #25
                      Cmon now hes still young hes only been in the league for 2 years. He hasnt had the same Coach, cordinator, or QB(for the whole year) in any of the 2 years he needs time to develop a rapport With TJ and work on his skills. Many Very good Recievers dont Flourish until there 3rd or 4th year. All i need to see from him is Improvement this year a 60+ catches and 900+ yds year would be fine, and that would be improving by leaps and bounds for him. And a follow up the next year with equal or better numbers than i will be willing to say he is not a bust. But if he doesnt Improve at all next year he is a complete bust

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                      • #26
                        all about production and he hasn't brought it to the table


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                        • #27
                          if he can improve his hands i think he can be a poor mans bernard berrian but will never be worth the #7 pick

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by etk
                            Originally posted by WinslowBodden
                            What is most of your feeling's on Braylon Edwards, the other receiver taken very high in that draft?
                            I can't believe he couldn't corral that hail mary pass for a touchdown. He juggled the ball like TO, but I don't remember who they were playing, but it was bad :shock:
                            It was against pittsburgh which makes it about 5,000 times worse, but the ball was tipped to him, and his momentum was taking him away from the ball, and his one foot was out of bounds anyways, it really wasn't his fault, frye through the ball way out of bounds and jurevicius made a hell of an effort to swat it back to where there was any chance of it being caught.

                            EDIT : another game I was at, and it was the most depressing game I have ever left, there were like 5,000 Steelers fans, and I wanted to deck some of them... They were being ass holes pregame, then shut up until our team had a meltdown in the 4th quarter.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Zbikowski_9
                              I think coming into is third year and with TJ's cannon arm he might come good, he will be much better suited to the slot and can excell if he can ajust to the ball better.
                              Why? He could not catch Brad Johnson's catchable floaters. Why would he be better at catching balls with more zip on them?
                              "Kenny Phillips has the body of Sean Taylor and the speed and knowledge of Ed Reed"

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                              4/1/1983 - 11/27/2007

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by WinslowBodden
                                What is most of your feeling's on Braylon Edwards, the other receiver taken very high in that draft?
                                Leading up to and at the time of the 2005 Draft, I said that the San Francisco 49ers should have taken Edwards over Alex Smith. Reasoning was that Edwards, over a 3-year period, would rank much closer to the best wide receiver prospect than Smith would to the best quarterback prospect. The 49ers had neither, and the theoretical potential of having to "settle" with Edwards wouldn't be near as bad as it would with Smith because of the critical importance of the quarterback position. And history has given us clear examples of successful franchises where they selected the franchise wide receiver a year or two before the franchise quarterback, allowing the WR time to understand the game which gives the young QB a viable option to depend on once he steps in.

                                When you're as bad as the 49ers were, the restoration process well extends beyond the year's class and in that case was at least 3 years' worth; the entire basis for that scenario is acquiring the best player available (BPA) as the complete deficiency in talent can't direct otherwise.

                                And right now, looking at the 2005-2007 draft class, I'd put Edwards behind only Calvin Johnson as the top WR prospect even though Edwards has some mouthing off and underperformance issues at the moment (no one would have ranked Marques Colston higher than Edwards at the time of). Meanwhile Smith wouldn't even make the Top 5 in quarterback prospects thanks to the top tiers of the 2006 and 2007 quarterback classes.

                                The 49ers could have made out with Braylon Edwards and Matt Leinart in consecutive years, instead they settled with Alex Smith and Vernon Davis. At least the Mike Nolan hire was the best move the franchise made in years.
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