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  • #76
    Im not sure if this is news or not, but if the Redskins are trying to make an offer the Bengals might as well deal him...

    "Numerous league sources" tell the Washington Post that the Redskins are interested in trading for Chad Johnson.

    Here we go. Two sources say Johnson is "eager" to get a new contract from the Redskins, confirming that Chad's main beef with the Bengals is about money. With a coaching staff almost fully in place, owner Dan Snyder's top priority is known to be acquiring a No. 1 receiver. While the Bengals aren't interested in moving Johnson currently, sources tell the Post that agent Drew Rosenhaus is actively working to broker a deal. It would probably take a pair of early first day draft picks to get Johnson.
    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Hea...=NFL&hl=112405





    Originally posted by Scott Wright
    I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
      Im not sure if this is news or not, but if the Redskins are trying to make an offer the Bengals might as well deal him...



      http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Hea...=NFL&hl=112405
      why do so many WRs want to come to the NFC East dammit? Its like they have a hard on to come here.

      i won't be surprised if Stallworth comes here too. Great. Just what we need. Thank God for a pass rush.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
        why do so many WRs want to come to the NFC East dammit? Its like they have a hard on to come here.

        i won't be surprised if Stallworth comes here too. Great. Just what we need. Thank God for a pass rush.
        NFC East is the division to be in!

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        • #79
          Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
          why do so many WRs want to come to the NFC East dammit? Its like they have a hard on to come here.

          i won't be surprised if Stallworth comes here too. Great. Just what we need. Thank God for a pass rush.
          cause its the best division in the NFL
          RIP Sean Michael Taylor

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          • #80
            Originally posted by 21ST View Post
            cause its the best division in the NFL
            i think at this point, that statement is undebatable. we have 3 teams make the playoffs each of the last 2 years, and you can make an argument that our 3rd ranked team in our division would be division leaders in some other divisions.

            AFC South is a close 2nd.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
              i think at this point, that statement is undebatable. we have 3 teams make the playoffs each of the last 2 years, and you can make an argument that our 3rd ranked team in our division would be division leaders in some other divisions.

              AFC South is a close 2nd.
              you mean NFC East is a close second...

              I give your division respect because the Giants won the Superbowl but the Cowboys (who were the best team in the NFC throughout the regular season choked) and Redskins didn't really show me much...

              The AFC South had three teams make the playoffs...in the AFC that's more impressive than three teams making it in the NFC...plus two of the AFC South's teams (Jacksonville and Indianapolis) were playing in the Divisional round...

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              • #82
                a trade with washington seems like it could happen IMO, but I just don't see us letting him go this year. if it does happen washington seems a likely place.

                ^A Bonekrusher production^
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by JagHombre22 View Post
                  you mean NFC East is a close second...

                  I give your division respect because the Giants won the Superbowl but the Cowboys (who were the best team in the NFC throughout the regular season choked) and Redskins didn't really show me much...

                  The AFC South had three teams make the playoffs...in the AFC that's more impressive than three teams making it in the NFC...plus two of the AFC South's teams (Jacksonville and Indianapolis) were playing in the Divisional round...
                  I think this year, Washington and Philly were respectively better teams than the Titans and Texans. Id expect Washington to beat Tennessee more often than not, as well as Philly beating Houston more often than not.

                  The Giants won the SB, and Dallas was arguably one of the top 5 teams in the entire league last year. I think from top to bottom, we were slightly better.

                  Thats no knock on the South, the south is an amazing division as well, but I think our top 2 teams are close, but our bottom 2 is better than your bottom 2. Its close, but I give the edge to the East. The NFC is not as bad as we make it out to be. We're slowly seeing a changing of the guard. The NFC's top 5 teams are just as good as the AFC's top 5 teams. Outside of NE, there really wasn't a team in the AFC that could say theyd have a significant edge over any NFC top 5 team.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by JagHombre22 View Post
                    The AFC South had three teams make the playoffs...in the AFC that's more impressive than three teams making it in the NFC...
                    Really? Why? I think the myth of AFC superiority is over.


                    Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                    • #85
                      Well, the AFC WC race was harder to win than the NFC's (9-7 wasn't good enough, hell 10-6 wasn't for one team). Plus, if we're just talking regular season performance based on the standings, it's hard to say the AFC South wasn't the top division when both #2 and #3 had one more wins respectively than the NFC East did at those spots. Simple fact is, the NFC East wasn't sending 3 teams to the playoffs in the AFC in 07, so they weren't the best division.

                      Also, it's not a myth. The best 3 teams in the NFC in 06 were the Bears, Saints and Eagles record wise. None made the playoffs in 07. The best 3 teams in the AFC in 06 were the Chargers, Colts and Pats, and all 3 made it again. The AFC at the top is just more consistently good right now and has been for a while.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by The Cutthoat
                        He doesn't "need" attention.. people went from adoring this guy to being haters in an instant.. it's histerical.
                        Ahh another thread dedicated to CJ. I will sum up everything from all my other posts about CJ right here. Good line Cutthoat (Cutthroat?) Yes the media darling went from being beloved to hated in what seems like overnight. Sure, he is cocky and mouthy, but it was all in fun, right? He isnt a team cancer like TO or Moss...Anyways, from some of my other posts regarding this topic now.

                        Last five years here are what he averages:

                        90+ catches
                        1300+ yards
                        8+ tds

                        He is the only "consistent" offensive player on the Bengals over that period of time. Henry isnt "consistent" enough to be relied on every week. TJ (who I like as well) will be blanketed by defenses. They dont have a reliable TE. Rudi doesnt catch many balls at the RB spot. The Bengals have to win by outscoring the opponent, the defense is not good enough. A draft pick or two recieved from a trade for him and used on defense MIGHT help out in a few years, but not immediately. The Bengals dont seem to draft very well defensively. I dont see teams giving up a 1st round pick for CJ, he is around 30 years old and will want big money. How many WRs have went for 1st round draft picks in the past? I can see a 2nd and maybe a 4th, as someone mentioned earlier, at the most.

                        I'm someone who has had to deal with TO (49ers fan) but, I would gladly welcome CJ. I dont see that happening though. I imagine the Bengals losing more games without him. Bengals fans: who out of this years draft would you want to get from a trade for CJ? Lets assume that it would be a late-1st round or early-2nd round pick?

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by OzTitan View Post
                          Well, the AFC WC race was harder to win than the NFC's (9-7 wasn't good enough, hell 10-6 wasn't for one team). Plus, if we're just talking regular season performance based on the standings, it's hard to say the AFC South wasn't the top division when both #2 and #3 had one more wins respectively than the NFC East did at those spots. Simple fact is, the NFC East wasn't sending 3 teams to the playoffs in the AFC in 07, so they weren't the best division.

                          Also, it's not a myth. The best 3 teams in the NFC in 06 were the Bears, Saints and Eagles record wise. None made the playoffs in 07. The best 3 teams in the AFC in 06 were the Chargers, Colts and Pats, and all 3 made it again. The AFC at the top is just more consistently good right now and has been for a while.
                          The AFC South played the NFC South and AFC West, both terrible divisions. The NFC East played the NFC North (which was actually a good division this year contrary to popular belief) and the AFC East (i'll give you that). However, our schedule was still tougher. The AFC East and NFC South were both a joke, but the NFC North is tougher than the AFC West. Either way, looking at records is only a half truth.

                          Look at the teams themselves. The Titans just don't have enough consistency on offense to beat any team in the NFC East more often than not. The Texans just aren't that great yet. The top is very close, but we had the SB champ and #1 seed in the NFC at the top.

                          The AFC has been more consistent yes. But we're starting to see a qb revolution in the NFC, with Romo, and possibily Manning (possibly) providing quality stability at the qb position needed for sustained success that you see with the Colts and Patriots in the AFC.

                          Honestly, I wish our division wasn't so tough. I much rather be in an easy division and sleep walk into the playoffs.
                          Last edited by bigbluedefense; 02-12-2008, 08:10 PM.

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                          • #88
                            The giants have thier work cut out for them, but with that pass rush they have a chance. God I hope we play you week 1 on thursday night. The entire US would watch that game.

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                            • #89
                              I wouldn't rather be in an easy division. If your team's going to do anything in the playoffs anyway they should be able to make the playoffs in a tough division, and maybe even benefit from tough competition down the line.

                              Comparing schedules is a little pointless when they're not the same, because the Titans beating an 5-5 team in the AFC may not necessarily mean it's an easier win than the Redskins beeting an 6-4 team (just an example). Plus, I'm not so sure about the conclusions the #3 and #4 NFC East teams would more often beat the #3 and #4 AFC South teams, the Titans D basically kept them in every game this year when AH wasn't out and I doubt a Redskins game would be any different, and the Eagles and Texans were both so hot-cold who the hell knows. I know it's silly to go back to 06, but the AFC South handled the NFC East well that season and basically no team regressed in 07 from the South, so I think it's a lot less of a sure thing than you may acknowledge.

                              All in all I think it's pretty much impossible to say either way, but one could be excused for siding with the South more so than the East based on records which, as trivial as they may be when the difference is one game here and there, are ultimately what permits comparison between the two anyway, along with the playoff thing.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by OzTitan View Post
                                I wouldn't rather be in an easy division. If your team's going to do anything in the playoffs anyway they should be able to make the playoffs in a tough division, and maybe even benefit from tough competition down the line.

                                Comparing schedules is a little pointless when they're not the same, because the Titans beating an 5-5 team in the AFC may not necessarily mean it's an easier win than the Redskins beeting an 6-4 team (just an example). Plus, I'm not so sure about the conclusions the #3 and #4 NFC East teams would more often beat the #3 and #4 AFC South teams, the Titans D basically kept them in every game this year when AH wasn't out and I doubt a Redskins game would be any different, and the Eagles and Texans were both so hot-cold who the hell knows. I know it's silly to go back to 06, but the AFC South handled the NFC East well that season and basically no team regressed in 07 from the South, so I think it's a lot less of a sure thing than you may acknowledge.

                                All in all I think it's pretty much impossible to say either way, but one could be excused for siding with the South more so than the East based on records which, as trivial as they may be when the difference is one game here and there, are ultimately what permits comparison between the two anyway, along with the playoff thing.
                                fair enough. you make good points. i think next year will eventually answer this question for us, for now, its a tossup with valid points on both sides.

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