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  • #31
    Originally posted by neko4 View Post
    On the contrary i felt some of our guys underachived this year and had a better season last year, mostly the OG's, Jenkins, AJ, and Collins
    Of course you did.


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    • #32
      the patriots have a real shot to go undefeated or dam near it again next year. with the easiest schedule in the leagu and an average winning percentage for opponents of something like .346. they have a great shot again.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
        Young players don't necessarily just "get better". Old players do tend to regress (past 33-34 or so) but the inverse doesn't happen nearly as often.

        Anyway, I expect a good six months of "OMG the Packers are so great" conversations, so I'll leave it at that for now. There are a lot of players and games that I just don't see the Packers replicating next year. They got a lot of breaks and a lot of players that put forward better efforts than can be consistantly expected of them.

        It's actually very similar to the Bears in 2006, I'm just not a Packers fan so I'm not as blind to it as I was last year.
        I think you are overlooking our success late in the year. A lot of our young players did make noticeable improvements. We had a lot of close games earlier in the year and a lot of blowouts late in the year. If we do fall next year I would expect injuries to play a big role - we were one of the healthiest teams this year. I do think the talent is there, we aren't losing any key players, and our salary cap is in good enough shape that we could even sign a big FA if we really wanted to.

        Also I'd rate our front office and coaching staff pretty high which is the best indication of perennial success.
        Last edited by umphrey; 02-04-2008, 03:23 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Billingsley26 View Post
          the patriots have a real shot to go undefeated or dam near it again next year. with the easiest schedule in the leagu and an average winning percentage for opponents of something like .346. they have a great shot again.
          How can you possibly be talking about going undefeated already? Most coaches get mad when you talk about playoffs early in the season, well it hasn't even started yet and at this point in time the Patriots aren't anything more than another NFL team that isn't perfect, probably just top 3 in the league before the offseason starts.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Billingsley26 View Post
            the patriots have a real shot to go undefeated or dam near it again next year. with the easiest schedule in the leagu and an average winning percentage for opponents of something like .346. they have a great shot again.
            Then again, u have the Super Bowl Looser curse, ur Defense isnt getting younger. The bears were supposed to have one of the easiest schedules this year too.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Renji View Post
              Then again, u have the Super Bowl Looser curse, ur Defense isnt getting younger. The bears were supposed to have one of the easiest schedules this year too.
              thats why i always said that if the defense were to come back, we would have a lefit shot at going deep into the playoffs. i advised trading our #7 pick this year and get more picks, to get more younger players so they can develop for at least a year or so, before being thrown into start.

              well, the patriots have each team in the afc east twice, rams, 49ers, sehawks and cardinals, raiders, cheifs, broncos and chargers, colts and steelers. doesnt seem to hard to me. i think the colts and chargers will be the toughest, and steelers and seahawks are in the middle, then everyone else could be easy wins.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                Young players don't necessarily just "get better". Old players do tend to regress (past 33-34 or so) but the inverse doesn't happen nearly as often.

                Anyway, I expect a good six months of "OMG the Packers are so great" conversations, so I'll leave it at that for now. There are a lot of players and games that I just don't see the Packers replicating next year. They got a lot of breaks and a lot of players that put forward better efforts than can be consistantly expected of them.

                It's actually very similar to the Bears in 2006, I'm just not a Packers fan so I'm not as blind to it as I was last year.
                Generally you make good points and predictions, but when it comes to the Packers that doesn't hold true. Everything that you wrote about it this year seemed to be wrong.

                As for it being very similar to the Bears, I don't think so. Other than being in the NFC North there's not a whole lot in common. The Bears won 13 games despite not having having an offense. They were aging. They traded away their starting runningback in offseason. And Finally were plagued by injuries this year. As for us we have a very good offense, are the youngest team in the league, I doubt we'll make a stupid offseason move like that, and injuries are always possible but you can't predict that and besides a couple positions we have good depth. I don't see the parallels between the two. There's nothing wrong with wishful thinking, but I don't think it's anything more than that.

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                • #38
                  Super Bowl Prediction? Chargers / Cowboys
                  MVP Prediction? Drew Brees
                  #1 Pick in 2009 NFL Draft? Michael Crabtree
                  Disappointments/Surprises? Browns / 49ers
                  Things you are looking forward too? Reggie Bush’s Breakout Season
                  Players to Retire? Zach Thomas, Rodney Harrison, Jonathan Ogden, John Lynch, Kurt Warner, etc.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Billingsley26 View Post
                    the patriots have a real shot to go undefeated or dam near it again next year. with the easiest schedule in the leagu and an average winning percentage for opponents of something like .346. they have a great shot again.
                    Pats @ Colts in the Luke in November.

                    The world awaits.
                    Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.

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                    • #40
                      Super Bowl Prediction? Cowboys over Colts
                      MVP Prediction? Ladanian Tomlinson
                      #1 Pick in 2009 NFL Draft? Kansas City
                      Disappointments/Surprises? Seattle/St. Louis
                      Things you are looking forward too? Start of next season
                      Players to Retire? Michael Strahan

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                        Generally you make good points and predictions, but when it comes to the Packers that doesn't hold true. Everything that you wrote about it this year seemed to be wrong.

                        As for it being very similar to the Bears, I don't think so. Other than being in the NFC North there's not a whole lot in common. The Bears won 13 games despite not having having an offense. They were aging. They traded away their starting runningback in offseason. And Finally were plagued by injuries this year. As for us we have a very good offense, are the youngest team in the league, I doubt we'll make a stupid offseason move like that, and injuries are always possible but you can't predict that and besides a couple positions we have good depth. I don't see the parallels between the two. There's nothing wrong with wishful thinking, but I don't think it's anything more than that.
                        I still think the main reason for ur success was Favres revival. Im not saying ur team was bad, but Favre just played like he was playing 10 years ago and i just dont see him suddenly play like a God again.

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                        • #42
                          Super Bowl Prediction? Chargers over Packers
                          MVP Prediction? Devin HESTER!! just kiddin, prolly LT or Manning
                          #1 Pick in 2009 NFL Draft? Panthers
                          Disappointments/Surprises? Romo/Moss JORDYZZZZ NELSONZZZ/Rams
                          Things you are looking forward too? Devin Hester/Jordy Nelson/Draft/New season
                          Players to Retire? Favre, Strahan, Feagles, Anderson
                          Last edited by Gay Ork Wang; 02-04-2008, 03:54 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                            Generally you make good points and predictions, but when it comes to the Packers that doesn't hold true. Everything that you wrote about it this year seemed to be wrong.

                            As for it being very similar to the Bears, I don't think so. Other than being in the NFC North there's not a whole lot in common. The Bears won 13 games despite not having having an offense. They were aging. They traded away their starting runningback in offseason. And Finally were plagued by injuries this year. As for us we have a very good offense, are the youngest team in the league, I doubt we'll make a stupid offseason move like that, and injuries are always possible but you can't predict that and besides a couple positions we have good depth. I don't see the parallels between the two. There's nothing wrong with wishful thinking, but I don't think it's anything more than that.
                            Every person in the world is aging, but the Bears are by no means an old team. Our offense line is older, and Moose (who isn't even our top receiver). That's about it.

                            I don't think you have a very good offense at all, and therein lies the difference. I would venture to say that every player on their offense played above his expected abilities last year with the exception of maybe Chad Clifton and Greg Jennings. The Packers really aren't hard to scheme against, and I still question why most teams have trouble with it.

                            On defense I think the team is much more naturally talented, though I think the secondary played above it's head this year, and a few guys in the front 7 (KGB for certain).

                            I don't think the Packers will be bad next year mind you. I still think they will have a winning record and would put them ahead of the Bears (though they still probably won't beat them). I just think the Vikings are from top to bottom in better shape going into next year. We'll see.


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                            • #44
                              Is it just me or does it seem like that Lovie Smith really knows how to play the Packers?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                                Generally you make good points and predictions, but when it comes to the Packers that doesn't hold true. Everything that you wrote about it this year seemed to be wrong.
                                And everything I said about them the prior two years was more or less dead on. I view last year as more of an aberration. I expected the Packers to be a good team in 2008, which I think they will be, I just don't think they'll win as many games this time around.


                                And to the previous poster, I agree with the Packers having an excellent front office. I'm much less impressed, and convinced, by the coaching staff. Like I said, the Packers are not a hard team to scheme against, and they were thoroughly outcoached and outmanned against the Giants doing what I think every team should do.


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