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I will certainly say Eli has a better line, and the skill players were at a draw. But Eli plays in one of the most complicated systems in the NFL, according to backup QBs that have been all over the place, that demands more out of a QB than anywhere else.
If i had to pick one of these QBs on my team right NOW... it would be Eli Manning. It may have taken a while, but I truly believe what we have seen of Eli in the playoffs and the regular season game against NE was a harbinger of things to come... also realize, Eli elevated his game against the BEST competition available. That's incredible.
Eli was the better prospect coming out, and I think he's finally living up to his hype. People will say that Big Ben has more "body of work", but that's meaningless as to who's going to be better and who has more upside. Eli is the prototypical QB and is playing so well in a city with that much pressure.
I'd like to note that for Big Ben lovers, I think he is a great QB, but I just can't see him being a dominant QB like I see Eli potentially being (and he was elite in the playoffs). For some reason (i don't really have stats to back this up, it's just a gut feeling), but I would not be very comfortable having Big Ben try to win the game for me at the end. Also, it seems no one wants to see Big Ben throw for more than 20-25 times...
it really isn't that far fetched. the most TD's Bradshaw ever had in a season was 28 and that was in his 9th season. Big Ben has broken that mark already in his 4th. I don't have Ben ranked over Bradshaw yet on the all-times list but he is close. And quit acting like you aren't basically saying that Eli isn't the "2nd coming" of Fran or Phil.
Originally posted by bsaza2358
For all the entertainment I have offered, she'd better be getting me some fellatio and a cup of coffee...
My opinion has been pretty much the same since last year -
Eli Manning has to put together a quality 16 game season before he moves up out of the basement of the 04 QB rankings. He had a great playoff run, worthy of praise, but so did Jake Delhomme for example in the 03-04 playoffs.
Thats my point. Ben had a great 04, 05 and 07.
Rivers was the best in 2006.
People like to bring up that "He doesn't throw 30 times a game" or "He didn't throw for 300 yards" crap, but he's what..
At Age 25:
44 - 20 Reg Season (3 Playoff appearances, 1AFCCG Loss, 1 SB Win)
5-2 career in the postseason.
At age 27:
30-25 reg Season (3 playoff appearances, 1 SB win)
4-2 post season record.
I'll say this as well. Eli made the playoffs in 2006 among a 8-8 record. One which would not have made it into the playoffs in the AFC. If it Did, Ben would've had 4 Playoff appearances.