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Shaun Rogers to the Browns (trade has not been confirmed though)
I'm actually loving this when I come to think about it. It only increases the chances of the Saint getting Ellis or Dorsey in the draft :D
Damn, right point Sveen!
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That's about what I expected, talk of a 2nd round pick was very lofty.
Edit: 3rd and a 5th? That's pretty good. The Lions should thank the Jets for setting the trade market, so that the Bengals knew what they had to give up to get this deal done.
Edit #2: I don't think this hurts the chances of the Bengals taking either Dorsey or Ellis. Rogers hasn't played a snap for Lewis, plus he's not signed long-term. Him and Peko are solid/good, but not Dorsey or Ellis good.
Nonetheless, defensive end probably remains their biggest need, and I think they would have thought so even if they traded for Rogers or not.
I don't think it hurts Ellis or Dorsey to Cincy at #9 overall since those guys would almost certainly qualify as BPA at that pick and a guy like Ellis next to Rogers would make the middle of that line spectacular, putting Peko in a rotational role. But the trade does make DT at 9 overall more of a possibility rather than a slam dunk should one of the big two fall to the Bengals. What they really need now is a WLB and a DE.
I think the only way this changes the Bengals draft plans is if they decide to make the full switch to a 3-4. Then you're probably looking at guys like Derrick Harvey or Kenny Phillips at #9 (unless they really like Dorsey/Ellis 3-4 DE's)
bf - i imagine they'll go with a 3-4 look. they've talked about it so much. rogers/fanene/thornton/robinson/peko gives them some bodies up front. at 9, gholston will be off, but i imagine they'll go pass rush and go after harvey, who is rumored to be marvin's guy anyways. harvey and geathers can both drop back into 3-4 olb looks, meaning that their front 7 could be close to being set.
i don't expect ellis or dorsey to drop too badly ... dorsey drops only if there's a serious injury ... ellis was more a 6-10 guy to begin with ... look for teams like the saints/bills to explore moving up imo ... perhaps even the panthers ... if
Maybe a hybrid, but the problem with the 4-3 comes down to that they would have to find way to improve not only their outside pass rush, but also their interior pass rush. Unless they become so dominant against the run to negate such necessity. put it this way - simply adding a de at 9 isn't likely to significantly improve their pass rush.
I think if they saw Ellis as a 3-4 DE then it could be done, on paper our Dline would actually be a strength. I don't think they'll go Phillips given the faith/praise for Ndukwe and White last season. I like Phillips but I don't think Marvin places as much importance on safties as he does CB/LB, plus I feel Ndukwe and White will be more than adequate.
Front runner has to be a DE at this point, Rivers would be nice but not as important.
Not sure what this does to the 4-3/3-4 talk. Rogers is obviously a 4-3 guy but is quite the mass in the middle. Given his 4-3 success now I'd just assume stay in the 4-3, before I wanted 3-4.... Bad.