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  • Robertson may go to the Bengals?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3274297

    The New York Jets and Cincinnati Bengals have agreed to terms on a trade that would send defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson to the Bengals in exchange for Cincinnati's fourth- and fifth-round picks (Nos. 114 and 151) in the upcoming draft, according to league sources.

    Completion of the trade is contingent upon Robertson agreeing to a new contract -- he had two years remaining on his rookie deal with New York -- and passing a physical, though neither is expected to hold up the deal, which could be finalized as early as Monday.
    The only thing that could screw this up now is if Robertson doesn't agree to a new contract, but I'm sure he'd do so to get out of being a back-up. Hopefully anyway. Thank god if it goes through.
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  • #2
    Cincinnati going for DT #3

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    • #3
      Well, some could argue Robertson for a 4th and 5th is better then Rogers for a 3rd and 5th, either way you get a proven guy to be a force in the middle, and keep a higher pick...They did need the help, Im just not sure what they will be getting from Robertson, really surprised the Broncos didnt grab any of these DT's being traded, they usually dont shy away from any trades.





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      • #4
        So, why do they need Robertson?

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        • #5
          don't know much about him. good to see we still went out and got some help in the middle though. kind of surprising actually. lets just hope the language in the contract is up to the NFL's standards.

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          • #6
            if at first you don't succeed, try try again...

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            • #7
              w00t! Should allow us to get Ellis at the very least.
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              • #8
                This feels like a "We missed, so we'll try again" move, which isn't always a bad thing. Except ... what happens to the talks about them going to a 3-4? Robertson definitely isn't a top 3-4 fit, as the last couple years have shown. Now, if they keep a 4-3, sure, having Robertson inside with Fanene/Peko/Thornton could give them a solid rotation.

                This pick could be a big boon ... we'll have to see what happens. Although this does seem to point to an edge guy at 9. That said, they do have Eric Henderson and Rashad Jeanty, along with Robert Geathers at 9. so they do have some flexibility in the first, and like almost every team in the first, may look to deal down to recoup some lost picks.

                I still wouldn't be shocked if they considered RB at 9.

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                • #9
                  Gee they sure are keen on getting some D-Line help. I hope they get what they are looking for with Robertson.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by diabsoule View Post
                    So, why do they need Robertson?
                    We have Domata Peko then 20 washed up dinosaurs at DT. It was a MUST that DT be addressed this offseason for both depth and quality. I've heard the Robertson rumor so this makes sense.

                    I like the fact that he's young and I know the Jets are dumping him for cash/bad fit.

                    What's everyone's take on him going to the 4-3? I'm still not sure why they're going after such big DT's, guess that's all that's out there. I like the move.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by toonsterwu View Post
                      This feels like a "We missed, so we'll try again" move, which isn't always a bad thing. Except ... what happens to the talks about them going to a 3-4? Robertson definitely isn't a top 3-4 fit, as the last couple years have shown. Now, if they keep a 4-3, sure, having Robertson inside with Fanene/Peko/Thornton could give them a solid rotation.

                      This pick could be a big boon ... we'll have to see what happens. Although this does seem to point to an edge guy at 9. That said, they do have Eric Henderson and Rashad Jeanty, along with Robert Geathers at 9. so they do have some flexibility in the first, and like almost every team in the first, may look to deal down to recoup some lost picks.

                      I still wouldn't be shocked if they considered RB at 9.
                      Yeah, I'd really like to hope this means it stays 4-3. Part of my b*tch about staying 4-3 was our terrible DT next to Peko, this could help to fix that. We've got run down DE's in Fanene/Rucker that I'm confident in. Perhaps if we managed Odom or Pollack came back DE wouldn't be address in those first three rounds.

                      I'd really like to see Rivers if this deal goes through (learned my lesson last time). Robertson also at least has 3-4 experience for any 3-4 looks we provide, obviously it hasn't worked out that well so I'd hope we're not a 3-4 base.

                      You're correct in not being shocked with a RB. Marvin has said it must be addressed and I'm very anti-offense in day one (for the past 3 or 4 years) but a big play RB on this offense would be HUGE!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PalmerToCJ View Post
                        We have Domata Peko then 20 washed up dinosaurs at DT. It was a MUST that DT be addressed this offseason for both depth and quality. I've heard the Robertson rumor so this makes sense.

                        I like the fact that he's young and I know the Jets are dumping him for cash/bad fit.

                        What's everyone's take on him going to the 4-3? I'm still not sure why they're going after such big DT's, guess that's all that's out there. I like the move.
                        I thought the big thing about them getting a DT would be to shore up the run defense, but that really isn't what D-Rob is all about. He's more of a penetrating type, but that should at least get pressure on the QB. I don't know. I don't see him being some All-Pro level DT now that he's in this system, but I think he should be solid enough, even if I don't think it'll help in rush defense.
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                        • #13
                          We MUST add interior pressure, it had to be priority one. Our run D has been ~15th overall the past two seasons, obviously not great but with our offense it was adequate. What was/is killing us is the lack of pressure on the QB in 3rd down situations, they have all day because we have no one to pass rush. I really really like to hear he's a penetrating type. Peko is a good run defender.

                          Thanks for the info, I don't expect him to be all-pro but we need solid players on the line. The youth helps, it'll be nice to have someone beside Geathers that's worth something.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PalmerToCJ View Post
                            Yeah, I'd really like to hope this means it stays 4-3. Part of my b*tch about staying 4-3 was our terrible DT next to Peko, this could help to fix that. We've got run down DE's in Fanene/Rucker that I'm confident in. Perhaps if we managed Odom or Pollack came back DE wouldn't be address in those first three rounds.

                            I'd really like to see Rivers if this deal goes through (learned my lesson last time). Robertson also at least has 3-4 experience for any 3-4 looks we provide, obviously it hasn't worked out that well so I'd hope we're not a 3-4 base.

                            You're correct in not being shocked with a RB. Marvin has said it must be addressed and I'm very anti-offense in day one (for the past 3 or 4 years) but a big play RB on this offense would be HUGE!
                            Here's the thing for me about 4-3 vs. 3-4. I think you are much closer, personnel wise, to being a good 3-4 than you are to a good 4-3. For all the Baby Sapp talk on Dewayne, he didn't show much under Herm. You still have questions on edge rushing.

                            In a 3-4, you have a NT in Peko. Fanene/Thornton/Rucker are guys that could be solid 3-4 ends. I'd be less worried about Eric Henderson at 3-4 OLB as the run responsibilities aren't as serious, and Jeanty could move out there. Same with Geathers. You have a nice 250-260 pound ILB in Brooks already, and a healthy Thurman gives you a solid 2nd option. If Pollack comes back, then he goes into the 3-4 OLB mix (I'd also consider playing Jeanty at 3-4 ILB. And um ... Dhani can be what he's best suited for at this stage ... leadership in the lockerroom.

                            The personnel is there for the 3-4. That's probably what Zimmer saw when he signed on, IMO. The personnel grouping isn't a great 4-3 grouping. In the 4-3, you still are a bit unknown with interior pass rushing and you have questions at base DE.

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                            • #15
                              would robertson be a DE or a NT in a 3-4?

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