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  • #91
    I really think the Hall of Fame is harder to get into than some of you think. They are pretty selective. That said, here is my best guess to the current Hall of Famers.

    QB
    Tom Brady
    Brett Favre (Ok, technically he's not active anymore)
    Peyton Manning

    RB
    Edgerrin James (I think has a little more work to do, but I think he'll get there)
    LaDainian Tomlinson

    WR
    Isaac Bruce (Not sure he's a lock like some others do, but he should get in)
    Marvin Harrison
    Randy Moss
    Terrell Owens

    TE
    Tony Gonzalez

    OL
    Larry Allen
    Jonathan Ogden
    Orlando Pace (Will voters forget about him if he continues to get injured?)
    Will Shields

    DL
    Warren Sapp (I guess, like Favre, he's technically not active anymore)
    Michael Strahan

    LB
    Ray Lewis
    Brian Urlacher (If he retired today, not sure he'd get in. But I think he'll do enough to get there)

    DB
    Champ Bailey


    I think some guys like Torry Holt and Ed Reed still have to continue to produce to get on the list, but you never know.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by P-L View Post
      I really think the Hall of Fame is harder to get into than some of you think. They are pretty selective. That said, here is my best guess to the current Hall of Famers.

      QB
      Tom Brady
      Brett Favre (Ok, technically he's not active anymore)
      Peyton Manning

      RB
      Edgerrin James (I think has a little more work to do, but I think he'll get there)
      LaDainian Tomlinson

      WR
      Isaac Bruce (Not sure he's a lock like some others do, but he should get in)
      Marvin Harrison
      Randy Moss
      Terrell Owens

      TE
      Tony Gonzalez

      OL
      Larry Allen
      Jonathan Ogden
      Orlando Pace (Will voters forget about him if he continues to get injured?)
      Will Shields

      DL
      Warren Sapp (I guess, like Favre, he's technically not active anymore)
      Michael Strahan

      LB
      Ray Lewis
      Brian Urlacher (If he retired today, not sure he'd get in. But I think he'll do enough to get there)

      DB
      Champ Bailey


      I think some guys like Torry Holt and Ed Reed still have to continue to produce to get on the list, but you never know.
      You forgot Dawkins?

      Sig by yours truly.

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      • #93
        Why do people think Issac Bruce is a lock? His career is a perfect example of longevity creating what appears to be a great resume. Issac Bruce is the Curtis Martin of WRs.


        The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Dam8610 View Post
          Champ Bailey? Seriously? Are you a Broncos fan or something? I understand an argument for Albert Haynesworth or maybe even Jared Allen, but Champ Bailey? He's a CB, and while he does take away one WR from the offense MOST of the time (not all the time like Deion Sanders, just most of the time), all teams had to do against the Broncos last year was run the ball and they'd be victorious. They had NOTHING upfront. That's part of the reason Bob won the DPOY. The Colts' run defense improved by about 1 YPC and 75 YPG this past season, the pass defense was one of, if not the, best in the NFL at keeping opponents from completing 20+ yard passes, and the defense as a whole allowed the fewest points in the NFL. Who on the Colts' defense would have the most influence on all 3 of those categories?
          I wasn't referring to this past season for Champ, but his 2005 and 2006 seasons. 2006 was probably the best season a CB has ever had in over a decade. It was amazing how well he was playing. 2005, he practically won 3 games for the Broncos. Thats incredible for a CB.
          And see, Champ Bailey played as big a role for the Broncos defenses that you say Bob Sanders plays for the Colts.
          I know some may think I'm foolish for saying this, but I really think the whole East Coast bias came into effect the past 2 years for the award.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Dam8610 View Post
            LaDainian Tomlinson
            Adrian Peterson
            Brian Westbrook
            Jamal Lewis
            Willis McGahee
            Joseph Addai
            Ryan Grant

            Who was Fred Taylor better than on that list in 2007?
            The last four.

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            • #96
              I would if winning a superbowl would have made a difference on Strahan making it or not. I know it helps, but if one had to quantify it, I wonder how much winning a superbowl helps him with the hall of fame.

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              • #97
                I don't understand how a majority of the "These guys are 100% sure fire" posts don't have T.O. on them.

                5th most TD's all time
                2nd most among receivers
                Still going strong.

                You can say he's an ass, but there is no way he doesn't make it in. Have you seen the receivers who have made it in? Art Monk, are you kidding me?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by P-L View Post
                  I really think the Hall of Fame is harder to get into than some of you think. They are pretty selective. That said, here is my best guess to the current Hall of Famers.

                  QB
                  Tom Brady
                  Brett Favre (Ok, technically he's not active anymore)
                  Peyton Manning

                  RB
                  Edgerrin James (I think has a little more work to do, but I think he'll get there)
                  LaDainian Tomlinson

                  WR
                  Isaac Bruce (Not sure he's a lock like some others do, but he should get in)
                  Marvin Harrison
                  Randy Moss
                  Terrell Owens

                  TE
                  Tony Gonzalez

                  OL
                  Larry Allen
                  Jonathan Ogden
                  Orlando Pace (Will voters forget about him if he continues to get injured?)
                  Will Shields

                  DL
                  Warren Sapp (I guess, like Favre, he's technically not active anymore)
                  Michael Strahan

                  LB
                  Ray Lewis
                  Brian Urlacher (If he retired today, not sure he'd get in. But I think he'll do enough to get there)

                  DB
                  Champ Bailey


                  I think some guys like Torry Holt and Ed Reed still have to continue to produce to get on the list, but you never know.
                  What about Derrick Brooks?

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                  • #99
                    morten andersen?

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                    • Originally posted by nfrillman View Post
                      Yeah, I was thinking that LJ is a tad old too, I probably should have put him on the bubble.

                      I think Edgerrin James will be hurt because of his years in Arizona. What I mean by that is that those years are revealing that he is not nearly as good as what his stats in Indianapolis would indicate. Throughout his entire career in Indy he wasn't the guy the defense geared up to stop. That makes things a lot easier.
                      Are you serious? He was the NFL's leading rusher his first 2 seasons in the league till he had his string of injuries then made a nice come back to a pro bowl level before going to zona. He is still putting up nice numbers behind a terrible line. Peyton Manning wasn't the key to Edge exploding his first 2 years. Why do people think Peyton has been GOD his whole career, granted his a lock to the HOF but he has had his career tailor made for him, had his franchise LT and WR there in place when he got there, plus then has just added weapon after weapon for him with Edge and Wayne. It took them so many years to be good bc they spent so much time handing him the world.

                      Big ups to jkpigskin for the sig.

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                      • Originally posted by KCJ58 View Post
                        Shawn Merriman? you must be joking
                        If he keeps going at the pace he's at, he'll be there.


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                        Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.

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                        • Originally posted by sweetness34 View Post
                          If he keeps going at the pace he's at, he'll be there.
                          Merriman can't hold Derrick Thomas' jock yet it is still taking Thomas longer than it should to get in the HOF.

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                          • Originally posted by BengalsPwn View Post
                            Are you serious? He was the NFL's leading rusher his first 2 seasons in the league till he had his string of injuries then made a nice come back to a pro bowl level before going to zona. He is still putting up nice numbers behind a terrible line. Peyton Manning wasn't the key to Edge exploding his first 2 years. Why do people think Peyton has been GOD his whole career, granted his a lock to the HOF but he has had his career tailor made for him, had his franchise LT and WR there in place when he got there, plus then has just added weapon after weapon for him with Edge and Wayne. It took them so many years to be good bc they spent so much time handing him the world.
                            Thats kind of what you do with a team though =/ If you got 1 guy who is a stand out, build a system around him to make him great.

                            Also, as for the original topic - why is everyone nerd raging because people are putting up guesses?

                            I mean posting sure-fire future HoFers would get boring after the first page. Part of what the original poster was trying to do is get people's opinions on what the league may look like in a few years.

                            If he thinks Steven Jackson is going to make the HoF, let him think that. You have no idea if he will or will not, and thats kind of whats fun about a thread like this.

                            I would like to hope that Carson Palmer makes it the Hall of Fame. He's done a lot for cinci, if our offense gets a running game going maybe he'll put up better stats and be able to compete with Peyton and Brady each year for top tier QB position.

                            Going over receivers in the league:
                            T.O. has got to make the HoF. I can't imaging a season will go by in Dallas where Romo doesn't keep him his favorite target, and if he puts the same type of production he'll be in no problem.

                            Randy Moss set a lot of records, and has just had an overall out standing career. Moss could retire now and make the HoF in my opinion.

                            I hope Hines Ward makes it. As a cincinnati fan I've kind of grown up watching him over my teenage years and I love his style of play.

                            Chad Johnson might make it too, though he's got a lot of football left in him to try and prove it. I'd like to see him apologize to cinci fans (yah right) and finish his career here (again, yah right).

                            Torry Holt is another receiver who's had an amazing career (and still tons left in him). I think if Art Monk made it, it'd be a mistake to leave Torry Holt out. I've seen a lot of people leave this guy off their list and its really depressing. He was not only the fastest receiver to 10,000 yards, but the fastest receiver to 11,000 yards. He's made 7 pro bowls (in like 8-9 years) and currently holds (all time) record for most receiving yards per a game with 84.7 yard average.

                            Running Backs:

                            LT obviously, he's the most prolific running back in the league right now.

                            LJ is a work horse. I don't know how an earlier argument got started about him, but saying that he "won't ever be the same" is ridiculous - you have no idea how is body is going to handle a 400 rushing attempt season. Every player's body takes the many physical demands of football in different ways. If he retired now, would he make the HoF? no, obviously. But he's only been in the league for 4 years, and he just got a big break this season to let his body rest.

                            Other than that there are a couple guys we really need to see their career play out before even guessing - edge james comes to mind, Fred Taylor too. I'm really excited to see these younger guys' career's play out - like Addai, AP, Laurence Maroney, Marshawn Lynch, Maurice Jones-Drew etc.

                            I think there are a maltitude of problems with the running back position in this league now:

                            1) its not rare to find a rusher that can go over 1,000 yards now. It seems like every team has the patience to give these guys the ball enough to just cram it in there till they hit 1,000 yards.

                            2) I'm not going to say that half back isn't a skill position - but I will say it feels like America is spending a lot of time trying to raise their athletic football enthused sons to be running backs rather than other positions =/ Its like, how many good QB's do you think will come out of this year's draft. I'm not saying they have to be peyton manning - but how many do you think could even be "game managers"? 2? maybe 3-4?

                            Now how many HB's out of this draft could rush for over 1,000 yards in this league if given a half way decent NFL line? 6? 7-8?

                            3) The position is so injury prone. Every starting HB gets hurt at least once a year. Maybe just a little bruise or something where they only sit a half a game, but by week 16 you can bet your ass every HB is starting to feel pain.

                            Now before I rant more about HB, my main point is - its just a really really tough position to judge for the HoF. I think in most cases these guys we see as being "just barely good enough for the HoF" will not make it, because the RB position is so delusional when it comes to stats - Edge james is a perfect example - a lot of people can say he's just had a so-so career because he was really good on the colts, but not so good in arizona.

                            Anyways I'm done rambling - good night.

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                            • Originally posted by kmartin575 View Post
                              Merriman can't hold Derrick Thomas' jock yet it is still taking Thomas longer than it should to get in the HOF.
                              I think he'll make it soon. I'm hoping anyway.

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                              His soft D really turns me off
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                              • Originally posted by Bengalsrocket View Post
                                Also, as for the original topic - why is everyone nerd raging because people are putting up guesses?

                                I mean posting sure-fire future HoFers would get boring after the first page. Part of what the original poster was trying to do is get people's opinions on what the league may look like in a few years.

                                If he thinks Steven Jackson is going to make the HoF, let him think that. You have no idea if he will or will not, and thats kind of whats fun about a thread like this.

                                Torry Holt is another receiver who's had an amazing career (and still tons left in him). I think if Art Monk made it, it'd be a mistake to leave Torry Holt out. I've seen a lot of people leave this guy off their list and its really depressing. He was not only the fastest receiver to 10,000 yards, but the fastest receiver to 11,000 yards. He's made 7 pro bowls (in like 8-9 years) and currently holds (all time) record for most receiving yards per a game with 84.7 yard average.
                                Thank you for understanding the premise of the thread. You have to predict the future a little bit in doing this unless you are just picking guys that would be in if they retired right now, but that would indeed get very boring. Also, I too find it ridiculous how many people don't think Holt will make the HOF. He is the definition of a sure fire HOF'r. Just look at where he ranks all time in many categories, he is also a Superbowl Champion, and is of very high character (which is taken into account for the NFL HOF).

                                I am done arguing, until somebody says something stupid.

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