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  • #31
    Originally posted by kwilk103 View Post
    NFL | Stiff arms to face could become a 15-yard penalty
    Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:14:43 -0700

    Charean Williams, of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, reports the NFL's competition committee is recommending officials make stiff arms to the face a 15-yard penalty in 2008. Tennessee Titans head coach and co-chairman of the competition committee Jeff Fisher said "grabbing on or twisting" the face mask by an offensive player on a defensive player will be a 15-yard face mask penalty. Offensive players also will be flagged 15 yards for illegal hands to the face if they shove a defensive player backward with a stiff arm to the face, according to Fisher

    Nooooo :(


    Watching the Barbarian hand out "angry stiff-arms" was some of my best moments on Sunday, it almost looked like he was punching defenders, but hey, he's the one inflicting the punishment...That sucks though, why would you want to make the offensive player more susceptible to punishment.





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    • #32
      I love this rule for one.

      Frustrating to see a defender get a 15 yard for barely turning a head, then on the next play seeing the rb nearly twist a head off to no call.

      This is about safety and I like it.

      Yeah, I play WoW too.[/CENTER]

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      • #33
        Originally posted by PackerLegend View Post
        I guess the rule would be ok if you grab and twist their face, but what is this turning into flag football.... two hand touch? More and more rules every year pretty soon there be a penalty every play.
        I don't see how this is destroying football. This is a play that can have really nasty results.

        I don't see the difference between a Running back Twisting a defenders head around, or pulling him by the mask, and a Corner back doing it.

        I forget who we played but I remember a Stiff arm (I believe LT) that twisted McFaddens helmet sideways.

        Remember Antrell Rolle's Breakneck of Larry Johnson? That can happen if your the RB or CB?

        Yeah, I play WoW too.[/CENTER]

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        • #34
          this is gonna hurt some RBs cause you know there still gonna stiff arm and think about it after
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pooQi...eature=related

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          • #35
            Rule makes sense. Player like marion barber are going to have to change a little...

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            • #36
              This really sucks for LT.

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              • #37
                i dont think they mean the normal stiff arm pushing the guys away like everyone is showing here but more of the punching type where you just tee off on a defensive player

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by fenikz View Post
                  i dont think they mean the normal stiff arm pushing the guys away like everyone is showing here but more of the punching type where you just tee off on a defensive player
                  You can stiff arm, just not grab the facemask and twist the players head.. just like the defensive context.

                  Yeah, I play WoW too.[/CENTER]

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                  • #39
                    so u can still push them down i.e.?

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                    • #40
                      The competition committee did a good thing by eliminating the 5 yard incidental face mask by defenders, but this no stiff's to the face from the offense is ********.

                      This is turning into a game for women.

                      I could see no grabbing and twisting (but who does that anyway), but no stiff arms at all to the face? What a joke.

                      This rule will get changed back after people see how annoying the game is when a RB gets a 15 yard penalty for a stiff arm.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by fenikz View Post
                        i dont think they mean the normal stiff arm pushing the guys away like everyone is showing here but more of the punching type where you just tee off on a defensive player
                        No, I believe you cannot touch the defensive players head at all, just the chest and below.

                        It's stupid because now a player has to think about where they are going to stiff arm a guy instead of just being able to react.

                        EDIT: it should also be considered that the offensive player only has 1 free hand, whereas the defensive player has 2. The offense should be allowed a little more leeway with where they put that 1 hand.
                        Last edited by Burns336; 04-14-2008, 07:22 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Just try to fairly push them away to the chest or whatever... Grabbing a dude in the facemask and jerking his neck back is kind of cheap.

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                          • #43
                            A back should be allowed to stick his hand on the defenders face mask or push off him, but holding on to it and pulling it should definitly be a penalty. I do love a good hard stiff arm, looks like those will be a thing of the past.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Bucs_Rule View Post
                              A back should be allowed to stick his hand on the defenders face mask or push off him, but holding on to it and pulling it should definitly be a penalty. I do love a good hard stiff arm, looks like those will be a thing of the past.
                              Those who are opposed will ask should a defender be allowed to go full force into an offender and push his head back by the face mask?

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                              • #45
                                Usually, a runner stiff arms a defender in the face because the defender leapt at the runner and is leading with his helmet and the stiff arm is the only defense. So if runners aren't allowed to defend themselves from this, then I assume we're going to see an increase in Spearing calls against the defense.

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