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  • #16
    Well, since the BPA in this draft IMO is Darren McFadden, and now the Rams can have any1 not named Jake Long, we should take him then? **** no, thats moronic. We are a 3-13 team with a tremendous running back, and we have a defense that ranks near the bottom every year, so we got to go defense. I'm a needy guy. That sounds ****** up.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by broth223 View Post
      Mr. Millen is that you?
      you can not pass on DMAC even if you have LT...this is a two back league now...LT is more of a physical runner DMAC is the more finesse runner...they would compliment each other well, IMO.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by diabsoule View Post
        I go by the hybrid theory as described above.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by JagHombre22 View Post
          you can not pass on DMAC even if you have LT...this is a two back league now...LT is more of a physical runner DMAC is the more finesse runner...they would compliment each other well, IMO.
          I always thought LT was a quick guy who usually avoided contact instead of getting that extra yard. I dont think LT is a physical guy.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by kalbears13 View Post
            I always thought LT was a quick guy who usually avoided contact instead of getting that extra yard. I dont think LT is a physical guy.
            I guess I meant to say more between the tackles...they'd still be a badass duo...

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            • #21
              Drafting BPA worked out for Minnesota last year with AD, but drafting for Need helped out Cleveland very well with Thomas as well. It's a crap shoot, just do what you feel is best for YOUR team and hopefully everything will turn out alright. That's all you can really do, and pray.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JagHombre22 View Post
                you can not pass on DMAC even if you have LT...this is a two back league now...LT is more of a physical runner DMAC is the more finesse runner...they would compliment each other well, IMO.
                Yeah then you run smack dab in the problem that Matt Millen is in right now. You ignored your needs for "The BPA" lets not kid ourselves popular opinion at the time was that Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson were BPA. Two busted now you have 2 WRs making truck loads of money and you can't afford them both. Imagine that with a RB. You have LT and DMAC both commanding a huge chunk of your cap space. You are boned at the rest of your positions. That is why you use the Hybrid approach the player that improves your team the most. Yes you do get that rare Michael Jordan, Sam Bowie situation and you lose out using the safe method.
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                • #23
                  BPA doesn't always work...For instance, McFadden could of been the BPA for Miami, yet that pick wouldnt make sense...I can go down the list of teams who have been taking skill positions at pretty positions, yet dont address the trenches, and you never even reap the benefits of those picks...So that BPA strategy has to come with a disclaimer...


                  Also certain picks have a premium and others dont, its easy to find a RB, so even though McFadden might be your BPA, do you take him over say a Dorsey, since impact DT's are much harder to come by? Of course not, you have to use a little bit of need into your BPA theory for it to make sense.





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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by broth223 View Post
                    Yeah then you run smack dab in the problem that Matt Millen is in right now. You ignored your needs for "The BPA" lets not kid ourselves popular opinion at the time was that Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson were BPA. Two busted now you have 2 WRs making truck loads of money and you can't afford them both. Imagine that with a RB. You have LT and DMAC both commanding a huge chunk of your cap space. You are boned at the rest of your positions. That is why you use the Hybrid approach the player that improves your team the most. Yes you do get that rare Michael Jordan, Sam Bowie situation and you lose out using the safe method.
                    I am not trying to be a jerk here, I promise. But...

                    What if you are in, "That rare Michael Jordan, Sam Bowie situation..."

                    If you miss out on Michael Jordan, people are still talking about it 25 years later...Thats all I'm sayin...people know who drafted Michael Jordan. What everyone wants to know 25 years later is, "Who passed on him."

                    25 years is a long time. I would agree there are exceptions to every rule. But if you are trying to justify taking a need player over best player, I would not bring up Michael Jordan. Thats all I'm sayin...
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by HEISMANHERSCHEL View Post
                      I am not trying to be a jerk here, I promise. But...

                      What if you are in, "That rare Michael Jordan, Sam Bowie situation..."

                      If you miss out on Michael Jordan, people are still talking about it 25 years later...Thats all I'm sayin...people know who drafted Michael Jordan. What everyone wants to know 25 years later is, "Who passed on him."

                      25 years is a long time. I would agree there are exceptions to every rule. But if you are trying to justify taking a need player over best player, I would not bring up Michael Jordan. Thats all I'm sayin...
                      Yeah if I was trying to win the argument that I didn't believe in then yeah I'd keep out the Jordan situation. But I believe in the method where you always pick the best improvement to your starting lineup. The Jordan scenario is the only one where the method breaks down. We have Clyde Drexler
                      (who is also a HOF player BTW) so lets pass on MJ. So yeah Sam Bowie may suck in comparison to MJ but what would MJ do sitting on the bench behinde Clyde Drexler for the first 4/5 years of his career?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by thebow305 View Post
                        Drafting BPA worked out for Minnesota last year with AD, but drafting for Need helped out Cleveland very well with Thomas as well. It's a crap shoot, just do what you feel is best for YOUR team and hopefully everything will turn out alright. That's all you can really do, and pray.
                        Joe Thomas wasn't just a need. He was probably one of the BPA. When you look at any prospect you're always going to look at both need and their skill. There aren't many instances where someone drafts someone purely one way or the other.

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                        • #27
                          Michael Jordan does not sit behind Clyde Drexler. Not on any team. Not in any way.

                          But I see what you mean. There is a point in drafting the player that best improves your team. I agree, totally. However, I would say the time when this is important is when a team is a true superbowl competitor. If you are not an elite team, I would say "Draft Best Player."

                          For instance-a certain team none expects to be in the superbowl (maybe the vikings last year, off the top of my head) takes best player. Does anyone blame the Vikings for taking Peterson? They could have had Brady Quinn!!! I would have drafted Peterson in a second. In hindsight, I would have drafted Peterson over Quinn, even though personally I think Quinn is more of an upgrade over Tavaris Jackson than Peterson is over Taylor.

                          This may not be a completely fair arguement. However, teams that take a better player (in my estimation) cant go wrong. Exceptions to every rule, I understand. But I would say it better be a good exception.
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                          • #28
                            Also MJ wasn't looked at in the same light going into that draft as Lebron James was, or as a "cant miss prospect" that you had to have...He was highly touted, but its a big difference between highly touted, and everyone knowing he would be great...Bowie was the right pick at the time it just didn't turn out that way, it doesn't make it the wrong pick because it didn't turn out right.





                            Originally posted by Scott Wright
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                              Also MJ wasn't looked at in the same light going into that draft as Lebron James was, or as a "cant miss prospect" that you had to have...He was highly touted, but its a big difference between highly touted, and everyone knowing he would be great...Bowie was the right pick at the time it just didn't turn out that way, it doesn't make it the wrong pick because it didn't turn out right.
                              Okay, this I will admit...and this is a good point. No one could have seen what was coming, and I will concede this point...

                              I guess my point is, all things being equal, isn't it a good idea to draft best player???? Can anyone give an example of when Best Player Available backfired without using hindsight?

                              Once again, not trying to argue. I am just at a loss trying to find a time when BPA is a bad idea (unless you are looking for the one missing piece for a superbowl.)
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                              • #30
                                This topic has been hashed and rehashed, and I think it is irrelevant in the first place. The term "B.P.A" is an arbitrary term. Who has the clout to make these determinations as to which players will be the 'best' for these teams? Is it the media, fans, NFL consensus?

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