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  • #31
    Originally posted by Flyboy View Post
    Aaron Stecker is serviceable at best and I still think we found a diamond in the rough in Pierre Thomas. Whether or not, the coaching staff wants to make PT "the man" is yet to be seen.
    I like how you don't even mention the #2 overall pick of the 2006 draft as a possibility. Not saying you should, I just find it funny.


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    • #32
      Originally posted by DragonFireKai View Post
      They still need a healthy running back.
      I would take the Bush/McAlister/Thomas combo any day. Thomas if healthy is a beast.

      Originally posted by BeansDooma
      who retires first: brett favre or aaron rodgers?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking View Post
        I don't know if this is true. .
        You mean you don't want it to be true because your username will no longer make sense?

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        they get smoked.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Thunder&Lightning View Post
          First Vilma then Morgan now Shockey they are signing big names but big names with serious injury questions... Im not convinced that shockey let alone any player can come back and ever be 100% after breaking their leg...
          Steve Smith broke his left leg, and came back just as beastly as ever...Bones heal alot faster, and better then tendons or ACLs.
          Last edited by LonghornsLegend; 04-25-2008, 07:19 PM.





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          I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by bearfan View Post
            I would take the Bush/McAlister/Thomas combo any day. Thomas if healthy is a beast.
            With the rate that McAllister and Thomas get injured, you're essentially saying you'd take Reggie Bush any day. I certainly wouldn't.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by TitleTown088 View Post
              You mean you don't want it to be true because your username will no longer make sense?
              Nah I am a mod for our official site so I could change it. Not really a big deal. Actually someone mentioned Boss +Manning= Banning, lol, which I thought was funny. But nah stupid stuff like username means nothing to me in the scheme of things.

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              • #37
                Was Eric Johnson not good enough?

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                Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BlindSite View Post
                  I don't know why the Saints love building offense and ignore that defense. Sure they've upgraded it some this offseason but their secondary still isn't built for shoot outs.
                  Because talks of giving up our stud LT for an unproven DT definitely means we're ignoring our defense. Yep.
                  The whole world loves neophyte athletic tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami with the 95th pick. "Best pick in the draft,'' one AFC coach told me. "Give him time, and in that offense, he'll be better than [Jeremy] Shockey by the start of next year.''

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking View Post
                    Nah I am a mod for our official site so I could change it. Not really a big deal. Actually someone mentioned Boss +Manning= Banning, lol, which I thought was funny. But nah stupid stuff like username means nothing to me in the scheme of things.
                    hahahhahaa! do it! that would be a kick ass sn.

                    as for this trade, ive said all along, im fine whether it happened or didn't happen. We had all the leverage here, and Im excited about having the 41st pick.

                    Shockey, I love the player. I honestly felt based on his play last year, that he's the best blocking TE out of all the pass catching TEs in the league. He's also a stud receiver, the problem is he would never realize his potential in our system.

                    I promise you this, under Payton, Shockey is going to beast it if he stays healthy. People don't realize how good Shockey is because the system held him back so much with us. But with the Saints, I think he'll be a top 3 maybe top 2 TE in the league next year if he can stay healthy.


                    As for us being better or not without him...we're not but we are. We lose a lot in the run game bc his blocking is incredible, but you can't help but notice how much more comfortable Eli was running that huddle without him and having a reliable route runner with soft hands like Boss on the field. It could be another example of addition by subtraction.

                    but in all honesty, this is most likely a win/win situation for both sides. Shockey got he wanted, and the Giants do whats best for Eli.

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                    • #40
                      Could the Saints reach for Kentwan Balmer?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                        hahahhahaa! do it! that would be a kick ass sn.

                        as for this trade, ive said all along, im fine whether it happened or didn't happen. We had all the leverage here, and Im excited about having the 41st pick.

                        Shockey, I love the player. I honestly felt based on his play last year, that he's the best blocking TE out of all the pass catching TEs in the league. He's also a stud receiver, the problem is he would never realize his potential in our system.

                        I promise you this, under Payton, Shockey is going to beast it if he stays healthy. People don't realize how good Shockey is because the system held him back so much with us. But with the Saints, I think he'll be a top 3 maybe top 2 TE in the league next year if he can stay healthy.


                        As for us being better or not without him...we're not but we are. We lose a lot in the run game bc his blocking is incredible, but you can't help but notice how much more comfortable Eli was running that huddle without him and having a reliable route runner with soft hands like Boss on the field. It could be another example of addition by subtraction.

                        but in all honesty, this is most likely a win/win situation for both sides. Shockey got he wanted, and the Giants do whats best for Eli.
                        We say that about Eli and Shockey, but our running game, specifically Jacobs sucked without Shockey. We can't power without him sealing the outside, and against playoff calibar teams, especially in the playoffs, Jacobs can't run well against these defenses if we can't run our bread and butter running play. Are we going to run power with Mathews and Boss?

                        Below are plays from the Eagles breakdown I did earlier in the year. Overall I am not happy with this move at all, if we did in fact trade shockey.



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                        • #42
                          Shock, youre forgetting one thing though: It was Boss's rookie year. Give him time, he'll get better at blocking. Look at the exponential improvement Boss made blocking from week 1 up to the SB.

                          Now he'll have an entire TC to get even better. He'll be a solid blocker, we just have to exercise patience. Again, he was just a rookie. If you compare his blocking as a rookie to Shockey's blocking when he was a rookie, Boss is on pace to be actually a better blocker.

                          But we just have to give it time. Also, our run game will probably be readjusted to make up for it. Im guessing more plays with Matthews on the field as well.

                          If this means Bradshaw gets more carries, that might be indirectly a good thing. Again, we have to exercise patience, let's give Boss a shot to show what he can do. I have confidence in him.

                          He's no Shockey, but he's not a bad TE either.

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                          • #43
                            Does anyone have a link to confirm?


                            The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

                            If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

                            <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
                            <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by holt_bruce81 View Post
                              Could the Saints reach for Kentwan Balmer?
                              Do that, and you have Jonathan Sullivan all over again.


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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                                Shock, youre forgetting one thing though: It was Boss's rookie year. Give him time, he'll get better at blocking. Look at the exponential improvement Boss made blocking from week 1 up to the SB.

                                Now he'll have an entire TC to get even better. He'll be a solid blocker, we just have to exercise patience. Again, he was just a rookie. If you compare his blocking as a rookie to Shockey's blocking when he was a rookie, Boss is on pace to be actually a better blocker.

                                But we just have to give it time. Also, our run game will probably be readjusted to make up for it. Im guessing more plays with Matthews on the field as well.

                                If this means Bradshaw gets more carries, that might be indirectly a good thing. Again, we have to exercise patience, let's give Boss a shot to show what he can do. I have confidence in him.

                                He's no Shockey, but he's not a bad TE either.

                                It's not the patience part, I have an issue with, it's Jacobs running our bread and butter play. If our guys can't seal, Jacobs will get stopped in the backfield. Not only that his vision sucks, and he has no cutback ability. If it was Bradshaw or Ward I don't have to worry about both have cutback ability and vision. One specific example was the BIlls game, on Bradshaw's TD. That was power! And it fell apart, and bradshaw used his vision and then cut it back backside, and went in for a long TD. That's fine, I can deal with failed plays IF we have the right guy to see it and fix it. I have broke down enough games to realize Jacobs sucks at that. If the play is 28 power, Jacobs is so concentrated in hitting the "8" hole, that he doesn't see anything else. Furthermore, he doesn't run full speed because he is waiting for our guards to pull, so he is jogging, and at that speed and height, he is going to get tackled in the backfield, because our TEs can't seal. Patience is a non issue, it's what we need now. That next step this upcoming season.

                                And on top of that jacobs wants a bigger contract for his extension. If we can't run power, his stats will get hurt. Hell I'd rather run more ISO and lead all day against defenses, but Gilbride doesn't do that as much. I just don't like this deal. People are so worried about how it positively effects Eli that they don't see the potential negative that it can have on our running game.

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