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  • #16
    New York Jets

    Round 1, Pick 6: Vernon Gholston OLB Ohio State - A+
    This was a no brainer. With Long, McFadden, and Ryan off the board, this had to be the pick. Now Gholston will provide the Jets with a pass rush while giving the Jets great depth at LB.

    Round 1, Pick 30: Dustin Keller TE Purdue - B-
    There has been a lot of hate on this pick, but I feel like it was a smart move. Maybe he would have been there in the 2nd, maybe not. If you like a guy that much than it makes sense to go out and trade up for him. The past 2 players the Jets traded up for worked out. Now I feel like he will have a big impact stretching the middle of the field, providing a safety net for whoever the QB is, and creating mismatches. He will be a great option as a slot WR/TE.

    Round 4, Pick 14: Dwight Lowery CB San Jose State - B+
    This is a good pick because it adds depth to the secondary. Lowery led the nation in INTs in his junior year and if it was not for an injury last year he may have done it again. A dynamic CB who excels in zone coverage will battle his way to start opposite of Revis.

    Round 5, Pick 27: Erik Ainge QB Tennessee - B
    A long-term project that one day may be able to be successful in the league. He's a big pocket passer that has a strong arm and nice touch, but needs to see the field a bit better. If he impresses he could eventually earn a chance to prove himself if Kellen/Chad play poorly.

    Round 6, Pick 5: Marcus Henry WR Kentucky - B
    A big guy (6'4) who will battle to earn a position on the roster. A big target with raw talent

    Round 7, Pick 4: Nate Garner OT Arkansas - (No rating, 7th rounder)
    Well he blocked well for McFadden and Jones. Maybe he can get a spot. He's a big dude (6'7'').


    Overall Grade: B
    Penn State University - Detroit Red Wings - New York Jets - Red Bull New York - Fulham FC

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BUSTKUNTLAWL View Post
      2. CB Terrence Wheatley, Colorado - Pretty good prospect who fits the scheme but was a bit of a reach. B-

      That was one of the worst picks in the draft, lol.

      I watched Will Franklin absolutely destroy this clown. Huge reach for a player that was not going to get taken that early and has some character concerns? B-???


      since when did TWeat have character problems? he doesnt.



      Will Franklin did not destroy Wheatley, Colorado didnt have much at corner behind terrence, Franklin destroyed the other CB's

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      • #18
        Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon B+
        Probably the best player available depending on how you ranked the running backs when we were on the clock. It appears the Panthers want a more powerful ground game and Stewart’s punishing style gives them a great weapon. While he’s not going to be a massive pro bowl rookie, he will contribute from day one and probably see around 160-200 carries his first year. Great value and a strong upgrade to the run game.


        Jeff Otah OT Pitt A+/F-
        If Otah booms into the punishing run blocker the front office thinks he can be and the Panthers offense takes off, Hurney and Fox will be hailed as geniuses. If he busts out and ends up benched or as a guard the Panthers will have mortgaged a huge part of their future for nothing.

        This is one of the few picks (other than Atlanta’s Matt Ryan and Baltimore’s Joe Flacco selections) that could make or break coaching careers and franchises.


        Charles Godfrey DB Iowa B
        Excellent value here imo as he was a pretty freakin’ good cover 2 prospect. The value here for the Panthers will probably be Godfrey as a safety. He’ll be a nice addition to Chris Harris and give a great safety compliment to a very strong set of cornerbacks.


        Dan Connor LB Penn State A+ (value wise)
        I don’t not like this pick. I just don’t understand it. We signed Landon Johnson in the offseason, already have Beason and Davis entrenched as starters. So now we’ve got James Anderson, Landon Johnson, Nail Diggs AND Dan Connor competing for one position. The best thing to do here in my opinion would be to put Connor on the strong side and move Thomas Davis to the weakside where his 4.5 speed and blitzing ability could be unleashed.


        Gary Barnidge TE Louisville B-
        Depth pick. Panthers always carry 3 tight ends and he’ll give us a solid receiving threat. Dante Rosario began to emerge last year as a great pass catching option and King is a solid if unspectacular all round player. Depth with potential imo.


        Nick Hayden DT Wisconsin B+
        This player fills a need and does seem to have a lot of potential. Sal Sunsieri has gotten some amazing play out of late rounders like Jordan Carstens, Kindal Moorehead and former busts ( Damoine Lewis) in the past and should find himself another project. Probably a rotational guy to spell those above him on the depth chart.


        Hilee Taylor OLB North Carolina C-
        I don’t know much about this guy except he’s an undersized defensive end who was too slow there to be effective as a pass rusher and too small to be a good run defender. Apparently has good quickness and a few moves. Maybe just a Tim Shaw type ST only selection. Front office must see something I don’t especially when there was still some DE’s on the board here.


        Geoff Schwartz OG Oregon & Mackenzy Bernadeau OG Bentley C+
        Camp fodder / developmental prospects. Both these guys are massive so they’ll be good in camp to help spell who we’ve got and give the scout team defense some hitting. I don’t really know why we went the same position twice after having a massive FA class brought in. Both guys have potential Schwartz is one mean MFer and Benradeau needs to be coached for a while but has a lot of capability as a player.

        I like the picks long term, but we’re not light on depth at the guard spot, so I don’t know where they’ll fit.


        Overall
        A+ potential if we manage to get a starting linebacker who lives up to his scouting report, a starting FS and a real power house running game. The other players only need to be ST contributors and the team will keep ticking over fine.

        Realistic grade: B we gave up a lot to get an OT with some big questions but managed to get some nice value and developmental prospects in the third and after.

        Worst case scenario is Otah busts and the Panthers are stuck with a useless fat, slow bench rider and miss out on a first next year.

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        • #19
          Eagles

          Round 1 (19 overall)
          - Traded to Carolina for a 2nd, 4th, and 2009 1st rounder
          Grade - A
          Round 2a (47 overall) - Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame - Should be a great 3rd DT in our rotation behind Patterson and Bunkley
          Grade - B+
          Round 2b (49 overall) - DeSean Jackson, WR/RS/ Cal - Didn't want him at 19 but getting him at 49 was great value. Should start out as a slot receiver but who knows could 1 day be a starter. He will probably be the starter at PR and maybe KOR from day 1.
          Grade - A-
          Round 3 (80 overall) - Bryan Smith, DE/OLB, McNeese St. - I wasn't too thrilled with this pick at first, but it grew on me a little bit since then, the eagles want him at DE and if he bulks up a little he could be a great pass rusher. Still a bit of a reach for a role player.
          Grade - C+
          Round 4a (109 overall) - Mike McGlynn, OT, Pittsburgh - If you would have told me 2 days ago we would have an OT from Pitt I would've figured you meant Jeff Otah. Who knows maybe McGlynn could be a future starter, but right now I'm taking this as a pick for O-Line depth.
          Grade - B-
          Round 4b (115 overall) - Traded to dolphins for Lorenzo Booker - Apparently Reid loved this guy last year but couldn't grab him in the draft, we get him with a pick that is 2 rounds later then he was picked last year, and he has already performed pretty well in the pros and was able to get experience. Will learn from Westbrook and will be a dynamic player for the offense to take the pressure off Westbrook.
          Grade - B+
          Round 4c (117 overall) - Quintin Demps, FS, UTEP - Decent value here, he has good speed and athleticism and is a ballhawk, seems a little arrogant but that could be a good thing. Will be able to learn behind Brian Dawkins and could be the future starter at FS.
          Grade - A-
          Round 4d (131 overall) - Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin - Was one of the top corners in the country before his injury. May have to go on IR for a year, and when he's 100% he could be a potential nickel or even starter. Very physical, great cover corner.
          Grade - A
          Round 6a (184 overall) - Mike Gibson, G, Cal - Not much I can say about this pick, might not be anything more than a backup guard, but what do you expect from a 6th rounder?
          Grade - C+
          Round 6b (200 overall) - Joe Mays, MLB, North Dakota St. - Undersized LB with a high motor and hopefully will be a core special teamer for us. Hopefully a good backup too.
          Grade - B-
          Round 6c (203 overall) - Andy Studebaker, DE, Wheaton - Talk about a project, this guy looked like a beast in Division 3 Wheaton college, obviously it's a big difference between Division 3 and the NFL, but if he works out, could be a steal.
          Grade - B-
          Round 7 (230 overall) - King Dunlap, OT, Auburn - Another project, may have some potential but also had a horrible senior season, getting beat out by a freshman. Also I wasn't thrilled he being our 3rd O-Lineman, I would've preferred a tall WR like Marcus Monk. Has Practice Squad written all over him.
          Grade - C-

          Summary - I like the trade for the 2009 1st rounder, We got a bunch of solid role players in the draft but very few look like they will be a full time starter.
          Overall grade - B

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          • #20
            Chicago Bears

            1st round- Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt

            -I preferred Otah, mostly because I like big mauling offensive lineman, but left tackles get paid to protect the quarterback and Williams is very good at that. He's got great size, good feet, and good hands. Plus, he's a really smart kid, and that gets huge points in my book. Biggest need with probably the best player to fit that need. Grade= A

            2nd round- Matt Forte, RB, Tulane

            -The whole question was whether the Bears would draft a replacement for Benson or a compliment for Benson. I think we've got that answer. Forte was arguably the best 2-down back available at 44 (him or Rice), and has an overall good package. Tough guy, good hands, great character. It wouldn't suprise me to see Benson not even on the team next year, though that would take some development on Garrett Wolfe's part as well. Grade= B+

            3rd round- Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt

            -At this point it seemed pretty clear we would go WR, be it Bennett or Doucet. Bennett has a little better speed and is probably the more likely to develop into a starter. With our WR position in such flux he could start right away if he has a nice summer. Probably will never be a #1, but could be a longterm starter. Grade= B+

            3rd Round- Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas

            -What is there to say about Harrison? Great run stuffer, tremendous talent, serious character concerns. Lots of NFL players do drugs, so this isn't a grand revelation, but the added health concerns dropped him. That said, as a late 3rd rounder? That's lower than many were projecting him. Hopefully he's not another Tank Johnson, but even still it's a lower pick. Grade= B

            4th Round- Craig Steltz, S, Lousiana State

            -I like Steltz. He's not a gym shorts type, but he played at a really high level for one of the best teams in the country the last two years. We've got a lot of openings in our safety position so he could compete to be what Adam Arcuhleta was supposed to be. Worst case scenario he should be a really good special teams guy. Grade= B

            5th Round- Zack Bowman, Defensive Back, Nebraska

            -I'm waiting to hear what the full plan is for Bowman, as I've heard they are projecting him as a free safety. Could have been a 1st rounder based on talent, but that was a long time ago. As it is, the 4th or 5th round was about where most people expected Bowman to go, so this works fine for me. Could also serve as a return man should we decide to phase Hester out. Grade= B

            5th Round- Kellen Davis, Tight End, Michigan State

            -Nice athlete, good value, questionable need. We already have one of the best tight end combos in football. Could Davis play more of a H-back role? Maybe split out? Hell, he could be a defensive end prospect. There's a lot to like about Kellen Davis as a draft prospect. Kiper had him ranked 61st overall. I'm just not sure why we picked him. Would have preferred Josh Johnson, although it's questionable if Johnson could throw in Chicago winters. Grade= C

            After that we had four 4th rounders that I don't really feel like typing out. Overall I give us a B+/A- and think our draft is realy falling under the radar. We found good value's up and down the board and filled our biggest needs.


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            • #21
              I would have really liked the Bears to have drafted Andre Woodson or Paul Smith, even though I think Sexy Rexy can still be the guy. The Bears needed to improve their offensive line and skill positions players to help him out, and they did just that this weekend.

              If Harrison pans out, that could make a very good defense even better.
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              • #22
                I like the Bears draft a lot. I didn't think they'd pull the trigger on Williams, but they did. There's talk we debated Williams/Albert for a long time.

                The only small disappointment I had was not pulling the trigger on another OL sooner. That said, I like Barton, and I think he could challenge sooner than later.

                I'm fine with not going QB. After O'Connell came off, there really wasn't a QB that I really wanted until the 6th or 7th, and at that point, I didn't care.

                Bennett could very well be our lead receiver. He's, imo, the WR most ready to make an impact. I'm not projecting any Dwayne Bowe like numbers, but he could be real good next year.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Geo View Post
                  I would have really liked the Bears to have drafted Andre Woodson or Paul Smith, even though I think Sexy Rexy can still be the guy. The Bears needed to improve their offensive line and skill positions players to help him out, and they did just that this weekend.

                  If Harrison pans out, that could make a very good defense even better.
                  I like Woodson but there are some real questions if he could play in a WCO (though who knows what Turner runs at this point).

                  I'm hopeful we'll add Paul Smith as an UDFA. We talked to him a fair bit I know that.

                  I agree with Toonster though, past the 2nd/3rd round we likely wouldn't have found a whole lot anyway. If Orton/Grossman fail this year we'll likely have to go QB in the 1st or trade for a guy like Brady Quinn.


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                  • #24
                    My feelings on the draft.

                    1) Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware = C+
                    -I'm not overjoyed, but I'm satisfied. Flacco wasn't the 18th player on my board, but I did feel he had established himself as a first round talent. And I'm happy that the FO went out and said this is our guy, and they went out and did what it took to get him. They didn't sit around and hope that he fell, they didn't let the draft dictate what they would do, they were assertive, and I love that. This probably isn't what I would have done, but I'm definitely on board with the pick.

                    2) Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers = B+
                    -Really nice pick. I felt that running back was one of our top 3 needs going into this draft due to the uncertainty behind Willis. Cam Cameron may now have a similar running back situation to what he had in San Diego.

                    3) Tavares Gooden, LB, Miami = A
                    -Probably my favorite pick of the draft. Gooden was one of my favorite prospects in the draft and I felt he was a second round talent. He reminds me alot of former Miami teammate Jon Beason. An athletic guy who plays even faster than he times, and can also play inside or out. He should provide good depth at the very least and could be an eventual starter for us.

                    3b) Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame = C
                    When I first heard about this pick, I absolutely hated it, because Zbikowski has been one of the more overrated safeties in college football for the past few years. But then I thought more about it and realized that this pick was probably more for special teams purposes than defensive purposes, and I love how he fits the team in that regard. I'm still not a huge fan, because this was a tad bit of a reach, but I've warmed up to it and I'm excited to see what Zbi can do.

                    3c) Oniel Cousins, OT, UTEP = B
                    -Not a sexy pick but a really nice one. Has the ability to play guard as well as tackle. Reminds me a lot of the Marshal Yanda pick last year, and he could end up having a nice impact like Yanda did. He'll provide some really nice depth and I like how he fits.

                    4) Marcus Smith, WR, New Mexico = C+
                    -Ok pick. Good size and a solid replacement for Darling, though I though Lavelle Hawkins would have been a really nice value.

                    4b) David Hale, OT, Weber St = D+
                    -Not a fan. With Hale being from Weber State I honestly cannot say I whole lot about this guy but to me I don't feel we needed to go offensive line again this soon. Maybe with our 6th or 7th round pick, but not here, and it's hard for me to believe that this guy was that much better than a tackle we could have gotten in those rounds.

                    4c) Fabian Washington, CB, Oakland Raiders = A
                    - You gotta love what the Ravens did in getting Washington. We had to come away from this draft with some sort of impact corner, and while we didn't draft one, we traded for one. I love the value of only giving up a 4th rounder for him and he will make an instant impact. There were only 4 or 5 corners in this draft that I felt would make instant impacts, so I'm pretty happy.

                    6) Haruki Nakamura, S, Cinncinati = C-
                    -Like the Hale pick, I can't say I know alot about Nakamura, but I'm not sure about taking a safety. I would have liked to see us go defensive line here.

                    7) Justin Harper, WR, V-Tech = B
                    -We may not be seeing him on the 53 man roster, but this is a nice pick because at the very least he will push guys like Matt Willis and Marcus Smith to get better. Intriguing player with his size.

                    7b) Allen Patrick, RB, Oklahoma = C-
                    -I guess it's solid value, as Patrick is a talented player. But I really don't like taking a back here. I was fine with going into the season with McGahee, Rice, and Ross at the position. I guess this is a bit like the Harper pick though, as at the least Patrick should push Ross. If Patrick can beat out Cory for the 3rd running back spot, then this pick looks alot better.

                    Overall this is a draft where we went out a got a guy who we feel can be a franchise quarterback for us, and I like that, even if Flacco wasn't the best value. After that we stockpiled depth, which isn't always the most popular thing amongst fans, but it's something that I really liked, because our depth has sucked the past few seasons and it's shown when our key guys have gone down with injuries.

                    FINAL GRADE: B
                    Last edited by dcarey20; 04-27-2008, 09:05 PM.

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                    • #25
                      2(34) Devin Thomas, WR (A) Really love this pick. I had Thomas graded as a first rounder in the 15-25 range so trading down into the early second and still being able to land him was great value for the Skins. He's a great fit for the Skins in the WCO. A large frame with impressive speed and good hands with his best football ahead of him.

                      2(48) Fred Davis, TE (B+) I had Fred Davis as the top rated TE in the draft so I was pleased to see him picked by the Skins. We have zero depth at TE behind Cooley and that is important for our offense. Cooley loves to slide into the slot and line up at hback in the backfield too. Having another TE with Davis talent gives us a ton of options for some really great packages.

                      2(51) Malcolm Kelly, WR (B-) Some people may say that taking another WR wasn't necessary after Thomas but they obviously haven't looked at our depth chart. After Moss and El theres only Thrash on the dc. Kelly was another guy that a lot of people had pegged as a 1st round talent before his pro day. He may not be a burner but he doesn't have to be in our offense. He has reliable hands and is money in the redzone. The rumors about his knees are my only concern.

                      3(96) Chad Rhinehart, OL (B) Very versatile olineman which is what the redskins wanted. he can play either OT spot and also OG. the skins have even said they will give him some snaps at C in minicamp to see how he does because they feel he has the ability to play anywhere on the offensive line. great small school prospect with quick feet, good agility, and very nice size at 65 315 lbs.

                      4(125) Justin Tyron, CB (B-) Didnt know much about the guy till we picked him. He is a little undersized at 59 but hes quite strong and physical nonetheless. Put up 21 reps on the bench and said to be a good form tackler. Transferred into arizona state his junior year and immediately started 26 straight games over his two years there as the #1 cb. Was an all american in juco before transferring. His senior year he only allowed the opposition to complete just 31.13 percent of the passes thrown into his direction. Pretty good speed with a 4.42 and a nice vertical for a shorter guy at 33 inches. From what ive seen his quickness and desire give him the ability to make up in recovery for taking a lot of risks.

                      6(168) Durant Brooks, P (A-) Frost is so terribly inconsistent and unreliable. Over the past 3 years frost in the nfl has averaged just under 41 yards per kick. brooks averages 45.3 and has much better consistency and brooks accuracy and placement is money. The kid had a long of 77 this year!!

                      6(180) Kareem Moore, SS (B) A pure SS and ive seen him compared to Ryan Clark who is a guy most skins fans were upset to lose in FA two years back. hes a little short and doesnt have good timed speed but everything ive seen says hes got great awareness, good instincts, and great in the box. considering we arent going to resign peirson this gives good depth and a guy that can compete with reed at SS.

                      6(186) Colt Brennan, QB (B+) I personally am really excited about this pick. I think that Colt has the ability to be a great long term backup in the right situation and I think the Skins are just the spot. He gets to come in and be coached by Jim Zorn. Campbell is obviously the starter and Collins has proved a serviceable backup but hes 36 and won't be around more than another year or two at most. The WCO is probably the best fit for Colt and he'll have a good amount of time to learn before being in a situation that he'd have to step in and contribute.

                      7(242) Rob Jackson, DE (C+) Mostly a pass rush specialist from what I've seen. Is supposedly very talented at getting at the QB but doesn't have much to offer in run support.

                      7(249) Chris Horton, S (B-) More depth at Safety. Behind Landry and Reed the Skins really don't have much depth at either safety spot so Horton has a good shot of stepping into that roll as a backup. He started as a FS and then moved to SS so his versatility will help. Could be a good special teamer.


                      Overall = B+
                      Last edited by DiG; 04-27-2008, 09:19 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Dirty Thirty View Post
                        2(34) Devin Thomas, WR (A) Really love this pick. I had Thomas graded as a first rounder in the 15-25 range so trading down into the early second and still being able to land him was great value for the Skins. He's a great fit for the Skins in the WCO. A large frame with impressive speed and good hands with his best football ahead of him.

                        2(48) Fred Davis, TE (B+) I had Fred Davis as the top rated TE in the draft so I was pleased to see him picked by the Skins. We have zero depth at TE behind Cooley and that is important for our offense. Cooley loves to slide into the slot and line up at hback in the backfield too. Having another TE with Davis talent gives us a ton of options for some really great packages.

                        2(51) Malcolm Kelly, WR (B-) Some people may say that taking another WR wasn't necessary after Thomas but they obviously haven't looked at our depth chart. After Moss and El theres only Thrash on the dc. Kelly was another guy that a lot of people had pegged as a 1st round talent before his pro day. He may not be a burner but he doesn't have to be in our offense. He has reliable hands and is money in the redzone. The rumors about his knees are my only concern.

                        3(96) Chad Rhinehart, WR (B) Very versatile olineman which is what the redskins wanted. he can play either OT spot and also OG. the skins have even said they will give him some snaps at C in minicamp to see how he does because they feel he has the ability to play anywhere on the offensive line. great small school prospect with quick feet, good agility, and very nice size at 65 315 lbs.

                        4(125) Justin Tyron, CB (B-) Didnt know much about the guy till we picked him. He is a little undersized at 59 but hes quite strong and physical nonetheless. Put up 21 reps on the bench and said to be a good form tackler. Transferred into arizona state his junior year and immediately started 26 straight games over his two years there as the #1 cb. Was an all american in juco before transferring. His senior year he only allowed the opposition to complete just 31.13 percent of the passes thrown into his direction. Pretty good speed with a 4.42 and a nice vertical for a shorter guy at 33 inches. From what ive seen his quickness and desire give him the ability to make up in recovery for taking a lot of risks.

                        6(168) Durant Brooks, P (A-) Frost is so terribly inconsistent and unreliable. Over the past 3 years frost in the nfl has averaged just under 41 yards per kick. brooks averages 45.3 and has much better consistency and brooks accuracy and placement is money. The kid had a long of 77 this year!!

                        6(180) Kareem Moore, SS (B) A pure SS and ive seen him compared to Ryan Clark who is a guy most skins fans were upset to lose in FA two years back. hes a little short and doesnt have good timed speed but everything ive seen says hes got great awareness, good instincts, and great in the box. considering we arent going to resign peirson this gives good depth and a guy that can compete with reed at SS.

                        6(186) Colt Brennan, QB (B+) I personally am really excited about this pick. I think that Colt has the ability to be a great long term backup in the right situation and I think the Skins are just the spot. He gets to come in and be coached by Jim Zorn. Campbell is obviously the starter and Collins has proved a serviceable backup but hes 36 and won't be around more than another year or two at most. The WCO is probably the best fit for Colt and he'll have a good amount of time to learn before being in a situation that he'd have to step in and contribute.

                        7(242) Rob Jackson, DE (C+) Mostly a pass rush specialist from what I've seen. Is supposedly very talented at getting at the QB but doesn't have much to offer in run support.

                        7(249) Chris Horton, S (B-) More depth at Safety. Behind Landry and Reed the Skins really don't have much depth at either safety spot so Horton has a good shot of stepping into that roll as a backup. He started as a FS and then moved to SS so his versatility will help. Could be a good special teamer.


                        Overall = B+
                        Really good skins write up, I agree with this one more than the one ghetosermon wrote. The only difference I have is that i value Kelly as an A and Brennan as a C. Kelly was great value and a definite first round talent, yea we didnt get to adress the line but i really like the guys we drafted late and got some key ufa's. Brennan I think was a luxury pick and one that might hinder Campbell's development a little if Zorn focuses too much on Brennan as a project.

                        Overall B+ as well.

                        O yea u have Rhinehart as a WR rather than OG.


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                        • #27
                          You know, Washington is probably the ideal situation for Brennan to go to, assuming Zorn gets a real chance to stay there long-term. Holmgren is done in Seattle after this year, the Eagles already drafted Kolb last year, and who knows how long Martz will stay in San Fran. But being in Washington, Brennan gets to develop under the thumb of Zorn, with Jason Campbell as the unquestioned starter and vet Todd Collins also being able to help the young guy.
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                          • #28
                            1) Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware = B
                            - Potential in him, hopefully we don't throw him into the water and let him learn a little first.

                            2) Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers = B-
                            - Could be a good combo with Willis. He'll take a load off, so Willis will have time to rest.

                            3) Tavares Gooden, LB, Miami = A
                            - I personally love the pick. I'm convinced that Gooden is the next great U linebacker and learning under Ray will only help.

                            3b) Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame = B
                            - Good solid pick. Will be a great back-up for Dawan and Ed. He's an upgrade over the horrendous Jamaine Winborne without a doubt.

                            3c) Oniel Cousins, OT, UTEP = B-
                            - Add quality depths to the line. Might be able to challenge for the starting spot, but I doubt he wins.

                            4) Marcus Smith, WR, New Mexico = B
                            - Replaces DeVard Darling. He's not afraid of going down the middle and gives us some more depth.

                            4b) David Hale, OT, Weber St = C+
                            - Another more depth. But I think that someone like Carl Nicks would have been a better choice. But I'm not complaining.

                            4c) Fabian Washington, CB, Oakland Raiders = A
                            - Great pick. People thought he would warrant a 2nd or 3rd. He'll step in right away at the nickel spot and might even challenge Samari for the starting spot.

                            6) Haruki Nakamura, S, Cinncinati = C+
                            - Adds another good back-up that can replace the horrible Jamine Winborne.

                            7) Justin Harper, WR, V-Tech = C+
                            - Adds a big red-zone target. Has some potential that can be brought out.

                            7b) Allen Patrick, RB, Oklahoma = D
                            - Adds more depth. He's a really aggressive type of runner and has potential on special teams. Not really a need though, would have preferred Erin Henderson there.

                            Overall = B / B+

                            Baltimore: 7-4

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                            • #29
                              Bears Draft;

                              1st Round - Chris Williams LT Vanderbilt: Love, love, love this pick. We got the LT we needed and Williams will start from Day 1. The knock is that he's a little soft but I think added muscle will help him with that. He'll man the left side of our line for the next decade or so (assuming he stays healthy and he stays here). We went with need over BPA but I'm ok with that. The OL depth in this draft was not near as deep as the RB's. Great pick ------ A

                              2nd Round - Matt Forte RB Tulane: Some consider it a bit of a reach but you can't ignore Forte's production as a senior. Over 2000 yards and was the MVP of the Senior Bowl. Tough runner with good vision, good speed, and has very good cutting ability. Angelo has liked this guy from day one and a lot of people predicted Forte to go here. Like the pick, and it basically tells Benson to either step up or get the **** out ----- B+

                              3rd Round - Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt: A guy we Bear fans targeted in our team discussion after Saturday. Basically it was him, Doucet, or Manningham with our first pick and we got EB. I really like this pick. He's not going to blow you away with speed or playmaking ability but he was the SEC's All-Time Leading WR, and that's saying something (Calvin Johnson was in the SEC). Has great hands, goes over the middle, good speed, can run after the catch, and blocks. Kiper compared him to a Hines Ward type WR, and I'll take that any day of the week ------- A+

                              3rd Round - Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas: First round talent, dropped due to injury and off the field issues. Very good against the run and had high production in the SEC for 4 seasons. He's healthy now and our staff believes his problems are behind him. We needed a run stopping DT and he's that, really like the pick. It's not offense but it's definitely value and BPA for us ---- B+

                              4th Round - Craig Steltz S LSU: Doesn't have the "physical measurables" a lot of teams look for but he's a football player. Great instincts, a playmaker in the backfield, very good against the run, and has good coverage skills. We have some issues at the Safety position and I like this kid a lot. Just has that football player build and gets the job done ----- B+

                              5th Round - Zack Bowman CB Nebraska: Heard a couple people say when this kid is healthy he was one of the best CB's in the country. Has great ball skills, physical CB, and is good against the run. Very good athlete. He's a high risk/reward type player but I believe he's going to do some things at least on ST as a gunner with his wheels. Has some good upside to work with as well, and with our track record of drafting and developing CB's (Tillman, Vasher, and McBride), I really think he could contribute down the road ----- B

                              5th Round - Kellen Davis TE/DE MSU: Very good athlete for his size and has some serious tools to work with. People question his character (assault charges) and his work ethic but there's no denying he's got some ability. With Clark likely moving on pretty soon, Davis and Olsen could be a pretty damn good duo at TE and provide some matchup problems. Scott says he doesn't have great timed speed, a 4.6 40 for a man 6'6" 252 is pretty damn good to me. Put up good numbers as a Senior as well. And he also has ability as a DE if TE doesn't work out. I personally like the pick, good athlete with upside - B+

                              7th Round - Ervin Baldwin: I'll be honest, I don't know much about him but '51 put up a scouting report that said he's a solid player with no real weaknesses. Can rush the passer and can stop the run. Doesn't do anything great but just a solid all around ball player. For a 7th Round pick I'll take it ---- B

                              7th Round - Chester Adams OG Georgia: Another player with a good frame, good athleticism, and has upside. Scott's scouting report said he's got the potential to be a starter down the line with his tools. Again, for a 7th Rounder I'll take it all day long. We address a need area and while he's not an immediate contributor, down the line he could develop into something very good ---- B+

                              7th Round - Joey LaRocque LB Oregon State: Maybe another Bear fan can fill me in on this guy because I can't find much about him. He looks a bit undersized but heard he has some good speed and coverage skills. I'll give this one an N/A for now because I don't know much.

                              7th Round - Kirk Barton OT Ohio State - Really like this pick. All Big 10 Selection opposite Jake Long at OT. If I'm reading it right he was a 4 year starter at RT, holy ****. Very good run blocker and isn't too shabby in pass blocking either. I guess injuries plagued this guy a bit but he's a solid prospect. Again, as a 7th Rounder I really like taking a flyer on this guy. Maybe a diamond in the rough, people question his mobility but I think he has the ability to maybe slide into a guard slot if anything----- B+

                              7th Round - Marcus Monk WR Arkansas: Love, love, love this pick. Game speed is questioned but he ran a 4.42 40. Great size and hands, good body control which allows him to be a threat in the red zone. Battled injuries his senior year which had to affect his stock a little. He's not a burner or a down the field threat but he's a guy that can go over corners, go over the middle, and provide matchup problems. Hell, he's worth a flyer at least in the 7th Round. My favorte of the 7th Rounders - A

                              Overall I'd give the draft a B+. Nothing is going to wow you but it's a very, very solid draft. We addressed need areas at LT, RB, WR, S, and DL. We took players with high floors but we also took flyers on guys with good athleticism and high upside. If you notice though, the guys we took all produced at the college level. One of JA's better drafts on paper IMO. And frankly I don't care we didn't get a QB, but that's my opinion.


                              Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

                              Originally posted by JBCX
                              Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.

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                                Originally posted by sweetness34 View Post
                                Bears Draft;

                                3rd Round - Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt: A guy we Bear fans targeted in our team discussion after Saturday. Basically it was him, Doucet, or Manningham with our first pick and we got EB. I really like this pick. He's not going to blow you away with speed or playmaking ability but he was the SEC's All-Time Leading WR, and that's saying something (Calvin Johnson was in the SEC). Has great hands, goes over the middle, good speed, can run after the catch, and blocks. Kiper compared him to a Hines Ward type WR, and I'll take that any day of the week ------- A+
                                CJ was actually in the ACC and damn the bears had A LOT of 7th round picks

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