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  • #16
    i can see selvie falling by next year
    small, might not have jaw-dropping workouts
    plus it's hard to follow up the kind of year that he had

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    • #17
      I doubt Harvin "falls" per say, whose saying his stock is top 10? Because if he is going to be 170 lbs also you can forget about that, he might be in top 10 in mocks on here and on other sites, but I surely wouldn't classify it as a fall if he goes late round 1, nobody is spending a premium pick these days on guys who are slot WR's at best, if he shows up around Ginn's size and shows he can offer something more then a slot/gadget guy this year then yes I can see it, otherwise I dont see it, even if he is more explosive then Desean Jackson...I know Dallas isn't the only team who feels this way, but teams looking for #1 WR's wont spend a pick on a guy like that, same way we passed Jackson we would pass up Harvin I believe.





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      I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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      • #18
        Moreno, he'll get over-evaluated and fall to a good team towards the end of the 1st early 2nd round

        I saw Curtis Painter in someone's top 15 and if he is rated that highly now, he'll fall greatly from there IMO.

        I can see Harvin drawing a ton of DeSean Jackson comparisons and falling as well.

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        • #19
          James Laurinaitis
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          • #20
            Tebow isn't going to get a big drop off as he's not rated really high. NFL personnel know that option plays and such doesn't translate to the NFL.

            Laurinaitis will have a fall.

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            • #21
              RBs almost always fall on draft day, DeAngelo Williams, Mendenhall were all mocked in the top 15 picks or so and later ended up in the 20s. Portis, Drew, Addai are all backs who had a bit of a fall as well.

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              • #22
                I dont know if anyone said it because I didnt look but I'll say Michael Crabtree.

                Pick the Winners Champion 2008 | 2011

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                • #23
                  I'm going with Moreno if he declares. I just don't think he's that good. He had one great game against Florida, and then runs all over poor run-defenses in Troy (7.5 YPC), Vandy (5.6 YPC), KY (5.6 YPC), South Carolina (7.4 YPC) and Western Carolina (7.2 YPC). When he faced good DEF's, he averaged less than 5.0 YPC. Tennessee held him to 2.3 YPC on 13 carries, and Georgia Tech held him to 2.6 YPC on 17 carries. Against Oklahoma St. he had a 3.4 YPC avg. on 20 carries, @Alabama he rushed 17 times at 4.4 YPC, and against Auburn he averaged 4.6 YPC on 22 rushes.

                  Moreno is supposed to be a Top 3 RB in next year's draft. I don't want my franchise RB to be like Cedric Benson - run for 200-yds against Kansas and run for 40-yds against Oklahoma. Aside from Moreno's game against Florida, he's Cedric Benson. He'll drop if he teams think he'll turn out like Benson did.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by asmitty45 View Post
                    I saw Curtis Painter in someone's top 15 and if he is rated that highly now, he'll fall greatly from there IMO.
                    Here is the fall. Painter the #1 or 2 senior QB for most people? What has he shown to justify that? Or is it that no one else has shown anything? Either way, come draft time, I'll be surprised if he's anyone's #1 or 2 QB.


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TitanHope View Post
                      I'm going with Moreno if he declares. I just don't think he's that good. He had one great game against Florida, and then runs all over poor run-defenses in Troy (7.5 YPC), Vandy (5.6 YPC), KY (5.6 YPC), South Carolina (7.4 YPC) and Western Carolina (7.2 YPC). When he faced good DEF's, he averaged less than 5.0 YPC. Tennessee held him to 2.3 YPC on 13 carries, and Georgia Tech held him to 2.6 YPC on 17 carries. Against Oklahoma St. he had a 3.4 YPC avg. on 20 carries, @Alabama he rushed 17 times at 4.4 YPC, and against Auburn he averaged 4.6 YPC on 22 rushes.

                      Moreno is supposed to be a Top 3 RB in next year's draft. I don't want my franchise RB to be like Cedric Benson - run for 200-yds against Kansas and run for 40-yds against Oklahoma. Aside from Moreno's game against Florida, he's Cedric Benson. He'll drop if he teams think he'll turn out like Benson did.

                      Well don't rush judgement on Moreno. You have to remember that was his first year of game action and he did very well all things considered. I think he will improve this year but he will still have a couple unspectacular games against good competition. It happens to everyone.

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                      • #26
                        Kiper has Painter at #10 on his preliminary 2009 board. I would be amazed if he goes anywhere near that.

                        However, most people would also have said that about Ryan at this point last year, so we shall see...
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                        • #27
                          So early in the process I could see Moreno, Tebow, Laurinaitis and maybe one or two of the higher rated safeties.

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