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  • #16
    Originally posted by neko4 View Post
    Next year when a team needs a new GM throw your name into the hate:


    Joke Resume:
    In madden i was able to draft D-Mac, Chris Long and Glenn Dorsey. I signed Randy Moss and Peyton Manning. I dominated. Won every game 209-17
    i wish i could, lol. maybe all my resume would have to say is "I'm still better than Matt Millen."

    I would be an improvement for at least 1 team that way

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    • #17
      A detroit fan, lol, needs to get all of the fans to demand he replace Matt Millen using the "I'm not Matt Millen" argument.

      Although Isiah is still a Knicks employee so clearly incompetence isn't enough for you to get kicked of sports management.

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      • #18
        http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_9327805

        John Lynch is in on it too now:

        “I’m with them on that,” Lynch said of the owners’ desire to reel in rookie pay. “I’d like to come up with an NBA system where you put a cap on the rookies. I can see the owners’ problem there. You look at JaMarcus Russell. He may turn out to be an awesome quarterback, but you’re investing $60 million right off the bat. It’s reached the point where everyone who picks in the top five wants to get the heck out of there. I would like to see that pool of money redistributed.”

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        • #19
          I've always thought that a "Rookie Salary Cap" or a pay scale like that should exist.

          The guaranteed money in rookie contracts should be cut in fourth. Their contracts should have a lot of escalators, though. That way, a young player could be payed big-time for meeting expectations, and the team isn't hurt as bad in the event of a bust.

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          • #20
            They need to figure out a way to where these players get absolutely paid in full worth if they're everything they're hyped up to be. If not, it shouldn't be franchise-crippling to have to cut a guy after 3 years. I mean, look at Larry Fitzgerald. He's hit every freakin bonus in his contract and dude was making 16 million this year. That's ridiculous jack, for anyone. He deserved every cent of it too, but had he not been putting up the numbers he had, he'd still be making somewhere in the 8-11 million/year range.

            Rookie pay scale, give them some decent bonuses, but keep it slotted. That way there's no more training camp hold-outs, no upset veterans and no more fear of having a top 5 pick.

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            • #21
              The one thing that makes it a little tougher to create a pay scale in the NFL is that the different positions need to be accounted for. This really wouldn't be too hard to count though, as they could just put the salary at a chosen percentile of the whole leagues salaries at that position or something along those lines. Hopefully something is done in the next few years because it is already ridiculous.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by badgerbacker View Post
                The one thing that makes it a little tougher to create a pay scale in the NFL is that the different positions need to be accounted for. This really wouldn't be too hard to count though, as they could just put the salary at a chosen percentile of the whole leagues salaries at that position or something along those lines. Hopefully something is done in the next few years because it is already ridiculous.
                i actually saw a pretty good article on that last year around this time.

                it said something like each position would get a different amount in a given slot, but no matter what position they are, they would still get more than the player taken after them no matter what position they were.

                so for example, say:

                #1 overall pick
                QB-$25 million
                RB/WR-$24 million
                other postions-$23 million

                #2 overall pick
                QB=$22 million
                etc etc

                so even if you had say, a kicker, taken in one spot, he would get the least money possible for that slot but it would still be higher than the slot after him, even if in that slot was a QB.

                i dunno if i made much sense but the article sure did

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by badgerbacker View Post
                  The one thing that makes it a little tougher to create a pay scale in the NFL is that the different positions need to be accounted for. This really wouldn't be too hard to count though, as they could just put the salary at a chosen percentile of the whole leagues salaries at that position or something along those lines. Hopefully something is done in the next few years because it is already ridiculous.
                  They could schale it out, give them like 3 year contracts with an RFA-type system when that contract is coming up, with greater exclusivity to re-sign the players. 3 years is enough for analysis on any type of player IMO.

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                  • #24
                    How much will the top pick cost next year if its a QB? At what point will there be a stand off?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by RaiderFan View Post
                      How much will the top pick cost next year if its a QB? At what point will there be a stand off?
                      Well it obviously would be around 36 million guaranteed.

                      Holy smokes. That's Peyton Manning money.

                      Peyton freakin' Manning is gonna be paid as much or less than Tim Tebow/Matt Stafford. Ain't that some ish.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Addict View Post
                        Upshaw is nothing but a meat puppet for agents, I honestly do not understand why this guy still has a job, he's the Matt Millen of the NFLPA.
                        And both come out of Oakland, no surprise there.

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                        • #27
                          This very well may be the year they finally address a system that started spiralling out of control several years ago, and is now hopelessly dysfunctional. We've heard players make comments and snide remarks in the past....but for the first time ever, we're seeing established, respected veteran leaders (including the president of the player's union) being openly critical of these deals.

                          Upshaw needs to check himself real quick, here. His reputation and integrity are already in question as it is....once the players believe that he's no longer acting in their best interests, he'll be out on his keister in no time flat.

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                          • #28
                            Be easy on the upshaw hate, he did a lot of good and made the majority of owners and players very, very rich.

                            The issue here isn't that upshaw has done something wrong or incorrectly its that the players failed to adequately articulate the view when this was beginning to become a problem, which was about 5 years ago. The issue is now, that its already a problem.

                            Upshaw got a lot of deals done lucratively very quickly. The players are beginning to want a shift in leadership, though not collectively so.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BlindSite View Post
                              Be easy on the upshaw hate, he did a lot of good and made the majority of owners and players very, very rich.

                              The issue here isn't that upshaw has done something wrong or incorrectly its that the players failed to adequately articulate the view when this was beginning to become a problem, which was about 5 years ago. The issue is now, that its already a problem.

                              Upshaw got a lot of deals done lucratively very quickly. The players are beginning to want a shift in leadership, though not collectively so.
                              the problem is he's defending a system that just handed an unproven player at a risky position 72 million dollar, which is more than the reigning MVP who plays the same position is paid. It's such a stupid system that everyone, from tv-analysts to choaches to players to owners disagree with it, all but the rookies who get the fat contracts, their agents and Upshaw.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                                i actually saw a pretty good article on that last year around this time.

                                it said something like each position would get a different amount in a given slot, but no matter what position they are, they would still get more than the player taken after them no matter what position they were.

                                so for example, say:

                                #1 overall pick
                                QB-$25 million
                                RB/WR-$24 million
                                other postions-$23 million

                                #2 overall pick
                                QB=$22 million
                                etc etc

                                so even if you had say, a kicker, taken in one spot, he would get the least money possible for that slot but it would still be higher than the slot after him, even if in that slot was a QB.

                                i dunno if i made much sense but the article sure did
                                The money based on which position you play should be based on the franchise tag, as they already have a number available for each position as far as salary goes, and from there they should use a set percentage of that for each pick, reducing as the pick gets higher. That way each position is accounted for, the salary reduces for the higher picks, and the salary of rookies each year reflects an average salary of current NFL players at the same position.

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