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  • #16
    I would actually watch him if he made a comeback. I wanna see how he stayed in shape in terms of maintaining size and speed.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by TheBuffaloBills View Post
      I would not want him anywhere near my team. Anyways, are there any reports saying if he is in shape or anything?
      I remember John Clayton reporting a few months back that he was throwing passes and benching 305 lbs.

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      • #18
        Atlanta is just going through the motions needed to placade the player's union. He will be cut ASAP and is untradable at this point with the salary cap dollars you'd have to absorb if you acquired him.
        Oakland and Dallas have the only 2 owners who would allow Vick to play for them. However not even they would take on Vick in a trade and absorb the salary cap implications. Both will wait till he is a FA and then assess their choices.
        And proud of it!!!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by gramage View Post
          He was never accurate, he never made plays in the red zone passing, and he never made his teammates better.

          Just look how much better the falcon wide recievers got with a rookie quarterback with some accuracy.
          Falcons in 2003 without Vick- 2-10
          Falcons in 2003 in Vick's return- 3-1
          Falcons in 2004 with virtually the same team -11-5 and NFCCG apperance.

          Yeah he sure held the team back LOL

          As far as the receivers you mean receiver as in one, Roddy White. But Roddy White was raw coming into the league. His development had a lot more to do about a vertical offense and great coaching. That's why he broke out in a season with QB by committee between Harrington, Leftwich, and Redman. And Roddy was still 2nd in the NFC in drops last year.

          Originally posted by JBond93 View Post
          If it wasn't for the contract, someone would trade for him for a second day pick to ensure they nab him. Contract is just too big for the liability that is Michael Vick.
          Pretty much sums it up. Falcons will have no choice but to release him because no team will be willing to take on that massive contract.

          Unless there is somehow a way to restructure the deal, but I'm not sure that's even possible.
          Last edited by BBIB; 02-14-2009, 10:56 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RavenOfProphecy View Post
            Vick is among the top 20 quarterbacks in the league in my opinion. TD-INT ratio is nice, supremely athletic, by far the best scrambler ever, cannon arm. Low completion percentage but played in offenses that weren't built to take advantage of his strengths and with bad wide receivers throughout.
            Funny how the bad WR's weren't so bad when Schuab played or since Vick left. Playing in offenses not made for his strength is an excuse. Vick's problem was poor work ethic, pot smoking and distraction from other business ventures.

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            • #21
              The wide receiver argument is just dumb. They got better because they got older and more experienced/mature. It happens with young receivers all the time. It takes a couple of years to get started.
              Penn State University - Detroit Red Wings - New York Jets - Red Bull New York - Fulham FC

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              • #22
                Vick was a damn fine player IMO. Since he was a scrambling QB he got a lot of bad flack. The bottom line is that Vick was a weapon who defenses had to account for. By all accounts he was working his ass off before he went to prison and was making strides. I would take Vick over half the QB's in this league. Why? He is controversial which means he will sell tickets and get people talking about my team. 2 if I am starting a guy like Frerotte, Kitna, or Bulger Vick would be a tremendous upgrade. He brings a dimension to the game that has never been see before. Vick's main issue is that he had poor pocket awareness.

                With his athletism he should not have been sacked so many times. If a coach can teach him to get rid of the football instead of taking stupid hits I think Vick could be a very good QB. I could see Oakland, NYJ, or Minnesota signing him.
                He's about as effective as a garbage bag sitting on the field. On the rare occasion the real men will trip on him.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by TimDris View Post
                  The wide receiver argument is just dumb. They got better because they got older and more experienced/mature. It happens with young receivers all the time. It takes a couple of years to get started.
                  It's only a dumb argument if you're a Vick apologist. Anyone who watched Vick with an objective eye could see his poor passing skills limited the offense. If it wasn't for Crumpler, his completion% would have been more like 40%. Young WR's do not cause passes to be overthrown, underthrown, thrown behind of crossing routes, etc.

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                  • #24
                    Al Davis will pull the trigger, contract and all. You just wait. ;)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Halsey View Post
                      Funny how the bad WR's weren't so bad when Schuab played or since Vick left.

                      Wow. This is just terrible. I mean, just ugh. Take a look at Shaub's Falcons numbers chief. The WR were awful.


                      And I'm hoping we can get a 5th-7th, and I think we might. I doubt it however. I'm just looking forward to him having another shot in the league and seeing what he can do with it.

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                      • #26
                        No way this happens, he must have at least 35 mill left on that contract. Can't blame 'em for trying I guess

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                        • #27
                          if i had some control on what the raiders would do ....id give atlanta Al davis and a bag of chips for Vick.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by gameplaya2435 View Post
                            Al Davis will pull the trigger, contract and all. You just wait. ;)
                            If they didn't have Russell I think he would.

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                            • #29
                              I thought NFL players had contract stipulations regarding jail time. I think it is as if he retired, there is no contract, but the Falcons are the only ones who can sign him. Thats why they would need to trade the rights to him.
                              I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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                              • #30
                                Here's the contract that you would inherit in a trade:

                                http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...rner021309.htm
                                "Vick is serving time in a federal prison on felony charges related to dogfighting, but he is scheduled to be released in July. He is currently under contract to the Falcons through 2013, with the remaining five years of the deal worth $45.11 million, with another $3 million in possible Pro Bowl incentives. His 2009 base salary is $9 million, with another $6.43 million in bonuses."

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