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  • #31
    Originally posted by JFLO View Post
    Yea, because we've seen in the past couple years that they haven't made a big splash, with getting the following guys:

    Terrell Owens
    Roy Williams
    Leonard Davis
    Tank Johnson
    Zach Thomas
    Akin Ayodele
    Pac Man Jones
    Ken Hamlin

    yep, that shows good history that they won't make an offer to any big free agent, let alone make an offer for Peppers, who has stated Dallas as his top team he wants to go to.

    Not to mention the fact that the possibilty of both Terrell Owens, Roy Williams might be let go come draft day.

    I wouldn't totally rule the possibilty out.
    Terrell Owens was brought in when there was a dire need for a WR. Huge difference here. And seriously, the last five are "big splashes"? Ken Hamlin was brought in on a one year deal, Akin Ayodole was given league average, Zach Thomas was given a one year deal, Jones and Johnson played for chump change. So if ESPN makes a big deal out of it, you think it's a big signing? LOL

    Originally posted by JFLO View Post

    Not to mention the fact that the possibilty of both Terrell Owens, Roy Williams might be let go come draft day.
    This made my blood boil. Roy Williams, the same Roy Williams whom we JUST traded for, gave up a ton of draft picks, AND signed to a big extension? Seriously? We might let him go? Jesus, i'm having a very hard time not calling you something infraction worthy.

    Originally posted by bored of education View Post
    financially may have been I forget how mcuh they spent on those two clowns.
    Not at all. Tank Johnson played for about 600k a year, and so did PacMan. The only thing we lost for Jones was a 5th rounder i believe. May have been less since he hardly played.

    Originally posted by BaLLiN72 View Post
    i really hope peppers doesnt go to dallas. If they got peppers and lewis, their defense would be ridiculous
    I don't know how many times i'll have to say this, but Peppers will not be in Dallas, i can absolutely guarantee that, unless something out of this world happens and we trade DeMarcus Ware, or something equally ridiculous. One, we don't have much to give up to bring him in. Two, we have no money to sign him to an extension. Three, bringing in ANOTHER linebacker isn't a necessity. And four, Ray Lewis, the more likely of the two to come to Dallas, most likely isn't coming either because of our cap situation, so please let's kill this stupid, ridiculous Peppers to Dallas rumor.
    Last edited by MetSox17; 02-26-2009, 11:50 AM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bored of education View Post
      financially may have been I forget how mcuh they spent on those two clowns.
      Tank was signed to a 2 year incentive laden contract that could've paid him up to $1.6M. Base salaries of $510K for '07 and $605K in '08.

      Pacman signed a 4 year deal with NO guaranteed money.
      2008 - $700K base
      2009 - $1M base; $250K roster bonus in March; $250K workout bonus
      2010 - $3M base; $255K roster bonus in March; $250K workout bonus
      2011 - $7.25M base

      Zach Thomas signed a 1 year, 3M dollar contract.

      So Jerry took no risk with those clowns.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BaLLiN72 View Post
        i really hope peppers doesnt go to dallas. If they got peppers and lewis, their defense would be ridiculous
        On paper atleast.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
          Tank was signed to a 2 year incentive laden contract that could've paid him up to $1.6M. Base salaries of $510K for '07 and $605K in '08.

          Pacman signed a 4 year deal with NO guaranteed money.
          2008 - $700K base
          2009 - $1M base; $250K roster bonus in March; $250K workout bonus
          2010 - $3M base; $255K roster bonus in March; $250K workout bonus
          2011 - $7.25M base

          Zach Thomas signed a 1 year, 3M dollar contract.

          So Jerry took no risk with those clowns.

          Wow, imagine IF lol..they worked out. Cheap contracts.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bucs_Rule View Post
            On paper atleast.
            Exactly! They have talent but their front runners. When times get hard or if it's a big game, they fold like a deck of cards. They have no leadership and that includes management up, and when things fall apart everyone points fingers at each other. I am not worried. If they ever get leadership and Jerry stops mettling is the day I get sceeeeered of them.

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            • #36
              Thats why I'd be horrified If Ray Lewis would sign there. Ray won't take **** from nobody, even the Owner probably.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by MetSox17 View Post



                This made my blood boil. Roy Williams, the same Roy Williams whom we JUST traded for, gave up a ton of draft picks, AND signed to a big extension? Seriously? We might let him go? Jesus, i'm having a very hard time not calling you something infraction worthy.

                I meant the safety...

                I'm not an idiot who might think that the Cowboys would trade a receiver who they gave away a first rounder for. I'd imagine you would know who I'm talking about seeing as how you are the one saying the team won't spend money.

                Thanks for thinking before you post...
                Last edited by JFLO; 02-26-2009, 03:10 PM.

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                • #38
                  BTW, it looks as if Dallas is looking to trade Roy Williams, the safety, for those who don't have common sense.

                  http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...S-Roy-Williams

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                  • #39
                    Maybe he thought you had the sense to realize Roy Williams the S is no longer relevant and hasn't been for about 4 years.

                    Or maybe he quit paying attention after you listed off numerous players who weren't big splashes.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Burns336 View Post
                      Maybe he thought you had the sense to realize Roy Williams the S is no longer relevant and hasn't been for about 4 years.

                      Or maybe he quit paying attention after you listed off numerous players who weren't big splashes.
                      What difference does that make? He still takes up a ton of money and that is money that could be used in free agency. Do all Cowboy fans lack common sense?


                      Okay, let's get some things straight here:

                      When you sign Terrell Owens, that is a big splash, no matter what the circumstances. They signed him to a good contract, but they didn't just sign the player, they signed the character issues that he brings along with his game.

                      The same goes with Tank Johnson and Pacman Jones. It's ironic that they sign both players who were suspended by the NFL. I don't care what the money was, they went to the two players who they probably should have stayed away from and it's proven today with Pacman no longer on the team and Tank Johnson barely getting any production.

                      They traded for Roy Williams...that is a big splash, whether it is in free agency or not...


                      I still think that Ray Lewis ends up in Dallas, even with Bart Scott presumably signing with the Jets.

                      Ray Lewis, just for those of you that don't realize, would be considered a big splash.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JFLO View Post
                        What difference does that make? He still takes up a ton of money and that is money that could be used in free agency. Do all Cowboy fans lack common sense?


                        Okay, let's get some things straight here:

                        When you sign Terrell Owens, that is a big splash, no matter what the circumstances. They signed him to a good contract, but they didn't just sign the player, they signed the character issues that he brings along with his game.

                        The same goes with Tank Johnson and Pacman Jones. It's ironic that they sign both players who were suspended by the NFL. I don't care what the money was, they went to the two players who they probably should have stayed away from and it's proven today with Pacman no longer on the team and Tank Johnson barely getting any production.

                        They traded for Roy Williams...that is a big splash, whether it is in free agency or not...


                        I still think that Ray Lewis ends up in Dallas, even with Bart Scott presumably signing with the Jets.

                        Ray Lewis, just for those of you that don't realize, would be considered a big splash.
                        What is so bad about making big splash signings again???

                        Yes, I hope Dallas signs Lewis, but it ain't happening. Ray may be interested, but I haven't heard 1 single word saying the feeling was mutual.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                          What is so bad about making big splash signings again???

                          Yes, I hope Dallas signs Lewis, but it ain't happening. Ray may be interested, but I haven't heard 1 single word saying the feeling was mutual.
                          I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, I just said that the team has a history of doing it and someone disagreed with me...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by JFLO View Post
                            Yea, because we've seen in the past couple years that they haven't made a big splash, with getting the following guys:

                            Terrell Owens
                            Roy Williams
                            Leonard Davis
                            Tank Johnson
                            Zach Thomas
                            Akin Ayodele
                            Pac Man Jones
                            Ken Hamlin

                            yep, that shows good history that they won't make an offer to any big free agent, let alone make an offer for Peppers, who has stated Dallas as his top team he wants to go to.

                            Not to mention the fact that the possibilty of both Terrell Owens, Roy Williams might be let go come draft day.

                            I wouldn't totally rule the possibilty out.

                            This post makes so little sense to me it's not even funny...So you want to compare a Free Agent signing like Leonard Davis that happened before the 2007 season to this off-season now, did you ever stop to think that the contract situations may of been different seeing as how that was 3 years ago?


                            And it's already been said but putting guys like Tank Johnson, Zach Thomas, and Akin Ayodele in one boat and saying that's "making a splash" makes you look like a fool...I guess everyone Dallas signs is "making a splash" eh? Half those guys were around the league minimum and the others were average Free Agent signings, there wasn't a long list of teams lined up to sign Ayodele or Zach Thomas.


                            Everyone wants to keep mentioning Tank Johnson like he's some sort of huge story, Dallas signs superthug and blows up in their face or whatever, but he was cheap as hell, he was a depth signing, he finished as depth, and hasn't sniffed the least bit of trouble since he was brought in...So I fail to see what's the problem with him, suspension or not he's certainly not a big Free Agent splash.


                            Unless your still counting 600k salaries as making a huge splash then you can count on us being huge players every year.





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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by JFLO View Post
                              I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, I just said that the team has a history of doing it and someone disagreed with me...
                              You keep talking about common sense. We have no money. I don't know how many more ways we can say that to you.

                              Use your sense to figure out why we couldn't resign our own free agents (Canty and Burnett) and how it is impossible for us to beat the offer that the Ravens already gave to Ray Lewis.

                              We are about to give D Ware a "Haynesworth" type deal.

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