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  • #46
    Originally posted by Larry View Post
    Move him to LB, his coverage skills just stink at SS.
    THANKS....i've been waiting for someone to explain how he will be a great player!!!!

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    • #47
      Originally posted by RavenOfProphecy View Post
      New England wanted a "rover" safety last year (SS/OLB hybrid), but Tank Williams was put on IR and I guess they didn't like what they saw from John Lynch. Roy Williams would be a pretty decent rover though, I think.
      I thought about that for a second too but he's not exactly in a hurry to get his career back on track. That combined with the outright liability in coverage makes me very weary.

      R.I.P. Junior Seau

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      • #48
        Originally posted by thule View Post
        THANKS....i've been waiting for someone to explain how he will be a great player!!!!
        No...he will be a great special teams tackling machine

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        • #49
          Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
          No...he will be a great special teams tackling machine
          if he can ever get to the returner.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by PACKmanN View Post
            if he can ever get to the returner.
            So mean, so true.

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            • #51
              He might be a solid fit in Houston...
              10 Favourite prospects for 2010: Colt McCoy, Dez Bryant, Golden Tate, Noel Devine, Ndamukong Suh, Greg Hardy, Eric Norwood, Travis Lewis, Eric Berry, Trevard Lindley

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              • #52
                A team really that uses Roy Williams wisely can get a bargain out of him. Teams should look to how Michael Lewis was used by the 49ers. Lewis was another "in-the-box" safety who was written off in Philly bc of his liability in coverage, but he has been a productive player for the 49ers and an impact player against the run game. You hardly see Lewis get lit up or burned in coverage bc they really limit his responsibilities. Teams like the Niners or Pats a few years ago who use a lot of cover 3 can always use a traditional SS.

                A 34 team really benefits from a strong safety who can help in run support and can cover the flats. This is why Harrison was so big in the Pats scheme, the 3-4 is very vulnerable in the near perimeter, the flats. Outside swing routes and screens present mismatches for OLBS.

                Best way to run at a 3-4 is right up the gut, through one of the A gaps (if the team does not have a dominant NT, which most teams don't). Generally the OLB's are taken out of the play by that approach, the SS has to get the ball carrier as the interior linemen often get matched up against one of the ILB.

                Ofcourse, if a team goes 5-WR formation you are probably going to pull your in-the-box guy, just like you are probably subbing your big NT for a guy who can offer more in terms of passrush. With the way offenses are attacking defenses now, alot of traditional positional players (run stuffing mike, in-the-box saftey, big NT) have become situational players.

                Also, I just want to throw this question out there... Has Roy Williams really regressed so much as a player, or is it simply that the game is now attacking him (and players like him) differently with the proliferation of wide-open offenses? I think Roy Williams in another era of power-run football could have been a effective player instead of the goat.

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                • #53
                  The only way I see Roy having success is if you do a 46 type defense. Move him down to the line of scrimmage and have him blitz the qb or help in run support.

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