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  • #16
    DE's are too tough to do, such different responsibilities with different schemes.
    Last edited by Don Vito; 03-09-2009, 01:37 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 7-11 View Post
      Freeney, and honestly it isn't that close in my opinion. Freeney is doubled pretty much EVERY single play. That can not be underestimated on how it will effect the production of both Freeney and Mathis.
      If the Colts could ever get a good DT, people would finally see how good Freeney is. He's without a doubt the 2nd best/most important player on the Colts. He is double teamed every play, and is held all the time (and its not the "theres holding on every play" kind of holding).

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tylerb929 View Post
        If the Colts could ever get a good DT, people would finally see how good Freeney is. He's without a doubt the 2nd best/most important player on the Colts. He is double teamed every play, and is held all the time (and its not the "theres holding on every play" kind of holding).
        So are alot of the DEs above. When it comes to being a complete DE Freeney is invisible. Freeney is a great passing rushing specialist but aside from that he is no where near a complete DE.

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        • #19
          I'm putting money on the next list to be top 10 Corners.





          Originally posted by Scott Wright
          I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
            I'm putting money on the next list to be top 10 Corners.
            What, and then create the list yourself..? i'm not falling for that one again...
            TD 2011 catch-phrase: "explosive"

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            • #21
              haha, people would rather whine and complain than take part in an actual fun ranking. Every threads ends up with a 'they are different schemes!', 'how can you compare', 'you are a homer', etc. etc. Why can't people just make their lists. If you think they need to be separated, then separate and make your list. It is a lot more enjoyable than reading everyone complaining about a thread or just digging into the thread starter. Have some fun, and enjoy football....


              Courtesy of Fenikz - Much Appreciated

              Originally posted by dRaFtDoRk
              You can't be a good corner if no one throws your way. Thats my way of seeing it.

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              • #22
                I am not afraid of being called a homer so here it goes.

                Trent Cole better be on these lists. He is a monster on the line. He gets off the line very quickly and he forces offenses to make adjustments and forces QBs to throw earlier then they want to. He was doubled all year and he still managed 9 sacks (should've been 10 but Big Ben barely got a pass off but he got credited with a safety so...). But more important is the fact that he led the NFL in tackles for a loss. He is great in run defense which is suprising considering he isn't the biggest guy. VERY good player and he is still young at only 26 years old.

                Yeah, I'm a homer!

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                • #23
                  Watch out for a big breakout year for Derrick Harvey. No homer, especially if we draft BJ Raji.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                    I'm putting money on the next list to be top 10 Corners.
                    I'll start the thread, if we can split the dough ;)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Thumper View Post
                      I am not afraid of being called a homer so here it goes.

                      Trent Cole better be on these lists. He is a monster on the line. He gets off the line very quickly and he forces offenses to make adjustments and forces QBs to throw earlier then they want to. He was doubled all year and he still managed 9 sacks (should've been 10 but Big Ben barely got a pass off but he got credited with a safety so...). But more important is the fact that he led the NFL in tackles for a loss. He is great in run defense which is suprising considering he isn't the biggest guy. VERY good player and he is still young at only 26 years old.

                      Yeah, I'm a homer!
                      I love Trent Cole and usually have him on these lists, but there's not really anyone I could remove just to include him. He's been a bargain for a fifth rounder.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by njx9
                        because lists are stupid. if people actually took the time to explain why THEY think so and so is better than the other guy, cool. but a lame 1-10 ranking? completely and unequivocally not interesting.
                        There we go. Classic example of someone who takes things a little to serious to have a little fun. Why go into this post if you just want to rip it? You know what it is when you go into it.

                        If someone makes a list, and someone is unsure how someone made that list, they can respond and say 'why did so and so make it', and that can lead to discussion and new things learned, brought to light, etc. Someone can make the list and say why, or they can make a list and spark discussion. Pretty sure if you put someone in the list, that speaks for itself - they think he's a top 10 DE! Just posting something like 'this is stupid' doesn't raise new ideas, contribute, or anything else that is positive. I for one am interested in seeing people's views and will question why someone is in a list if i don't agree. Potential homerism? Very possible. However those people probably watch that player a fair bit and have an appreciation and understanding of what they do on the field. IF that person is an idiot, it can be recognized and discredited.

                        Not 'attacking' you or anything, i just don't get why you have to have such a strong negative opinion about something like this, and why you would even both to post something if you clearly think it is stupid....some things aren't for everyone, and even if you don't agree, having an open mind may lead you to learn something you don't know...if there is anything on that subject you don't already know...


                        Courtesy of Fenikz - Much Appreciated

                        Originally posted by dRaFtDoRk
                        You can't be a good corner if no one throws your way. Thats my way of seeing it.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by njx9
                          hardly. i further didn't go into "this post" just to rip it. i was reading a thread i thought might be interesting, and found an opinion i disagreed with. should i not do that? should we hold hands and sing kumbaya and pretend that everyone everywhere agrees with everything YOU say?



                          i couldn't care less that someone is on the list at #6. i want to know why they're on it above the #7 guy and below the #5 guy. i've further NEVER simply posted "this is stupid" in response to anything serious, and i'm actually a little disgusted that you'd suggest that any part of my post even implied that response. i'm quite sure i described why posting lists is stupid in addition to the rest of my post. but boy am i glad to know that you think player x is top ten. my understanding of the nfl and teams i don't get to see much of has dramatically increased, solely because i now know you think he's the 6th best DE.



                          pot, meet kettle. but i'm sure you don't think you're a complete hypocrite.



                          someone telling me that they think mario williams is better than julius peppers and not bothering to explain why is not in any way whatsoever instructive and thus leads to no learning whatsoever. which is why it's stupid. further, it requires no critical thought whatsoever to randomly throw some names at a wall and see what order they happen to stick in. a 4 year old could do that. given that this is an nfl board where people represent themselves (poorly in some cases) as knowing something about the sport, one would expect that they would be capable of doing a little bit better.

                          oh, right. kumbaya and ****.
                          Hahaha. You are obviously right. I'll leave you alone. Thanks for your insights, and keep up the good discussion.


                          Courtesy of Fenikz - Much Appreciated

                          Originally posted by dRaFtDoRk
                          You can't be a good corner if no one throws your way. Thats my way of seeing it.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by njx9
                            oh, right. kumbaya and ****.
                            HAHAHA, you certainly are a badass.


                            Courtesy of Fenikz - Much Appreciated

                            Originally posted by dRaFtDoRk
                            You can't be a good corner if no one throws your way. Thats my way of seeing it.

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                            • #29
                              I just had crazy dejavu after reading Great Jon Vilma/njx's posts....
                              Still Team The Ke$ha!!!

                              [@TDWinstead]
                              Originally posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
                              Damn Ke$ha is sexy.

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                              • #30
                                However you decide to start you list, Mario Williams should be on top of it.

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