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  • #46
    Originally posted by VoodooMonkey View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's more than that.
    I did up until a few months ago too....I assumed that it was the typical beer an hour deal. I have a friend that had to take a remedial course after having been caught drinking and driving, and that's exactly what they told him (1 drink every 2 hours).

    Apparently the most misleading part of it is that at a beer an hour, you won't necessarily feel impaired (depending on your individual tolerance to the sauce), but you will still blow over after a while because you'd be ingesting at a rate which exceeds what your body can break down.

    Anyways, take it for what it's worth. I may be wrong, just trying to share what I have heard.
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    • #47
      ^ It varies some based on weight and metabolism as well. 1 per hour . . . 2 per hour . . . either way it depends on when he started. If he had "at least four Patrons and two Margaritas" between 10p and midnight he's still likely to be well over the limit. If he started at 6p and had the last at midnight there's a big difference.

      We will find out soon enough.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by noondog View Post
        I did up until a few months ago too....I assumed that it was the typical beer an hour deal. I have a friend that had to take a remedial course after having been caught drinking and driving, and that's exactly what they told him (1 drink every 2 hours).

        Apparently the most misleading part of it is that at a beer an hour, you won't necessarily feel impaired (depending on your individual tolerance to the sauce), but you will still blow over after a while because you'd be ingesting at a rate which exceeds what your body can break down.

        Anyways, take it for what it's worth. I may be wrong, just trying to share what I have heard.
        I know for a fact it isn't 1 drink every two hours. It is slightly under a drink an hour. Like 1 drink every hour and fifteen minutes. Many of those classes are propaganda, much like DARE when we were in school. Of course drinking and driving is bad, but most of the other stuff they tell you in court mandated classes are exaggerations.

        Every study has shown that it is a little less than a beer an hour.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by FlyingElvis View Post
          ^ It varies some based on weight and metabolism as well. 1 per hour . . . 2 per hour . . . either way it depends on when he started. If he had "at least four Patrons and two Margaritas" between 10p and midnight he's still likely to be well over the limit. If he started at 6p and had the last at midnight there's a big difference.

          We will find out soon enough.
          Unlikely that he would still be over the limit at 7am, have you ever woken up still drunk after 6-8 drinks? I know the only time I've woken up still drunk was when I had 15+.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by 21ST View Post
            How does alchohol make it not an accident?
            ...it means he would have been driving under the influence. At that point whether it was an 'accident' or not would pretty much be moot.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by someone447 View Post
              Unlikely that he would still be over the limit at 7am, have you ever woken up still drunk after 6-8 drinks? I know the only time I've woken up still drunk was when I had 15+.
              Like I mentioned before - it all depends on the drinks. I like a glass of tequila when it's the good stuff. I don't measure out a shot, I pour up a tumbler. Those 4 Patrons could very well have been doubles or more. And we could be talking run of the mill Margaritas or a big ones. I'll wager the drinks are more likely to be large & strong in the VIP section. ;)


              EDIT: And nothing says he was just waking up. My guess is he was out all night and on his way home. All speculation now, of course.

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              • #52
                Reports are he was heading to the beach... Heading to the beach at 7am means he was probably getting an early start on sailing, surfing, working out, etc. There could be anything he was doing. If it was 9am I'd feel much more confident saying that, but the 7am deal makes it an uncomfortable situation. Still, there has been no charges yet and he was completely cooperating with the police, so I think it was simply and unfortunate accident.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Prowler View Post
                  that's why people shouldn't drive like morons. i don't even care about the alcohol or not. there's no excuse short of he was driving in the dark and the kid fell from the sky out of an invisibility cloak and onto his car.
                  Yes, because every incident like this is the drivers fault 100% of the time.

                  Originally posted by Prowler View Post
                  true, for some odd reason i was thinking that he had killed a little kid.
                  Great job reading the story before jumping to conclusions...

                  Originally posted by eaglesalltheway View Post
                  If it turns out this was just an accident, I wish the best to the family and to Donte, but if Donte was under the influence, he deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law. My condolences to the family no matter what. I'm just hoping that Donte didn't do somehting very stupid, he does seem like a nice guy...
                  Indeed.

                  Originally posted by noondog View Post
                  The very fact that he admitted to have been drinking is bad, bad news. Of course he's going to say he quit at midnight...I mean, he's going to try to absolve himself of the potential that he was under the influence, right? The blood testing will undoubtedly be expedited now.

                  Anyways, even if he did quit drinking at midnight, the liver can only break down alcohol so fast....the rate is something around 1 standard drink every two hours, which means that his body could reasonably only have broken down about 3.5 drinks between midnight and 7 a.m.

                  I really hope that this isn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was over the limit. Tragic either way.
                  There is no magic number to how fast your liver can breakdown alcohol. It factors on the amount of food eaten prior to drinking, the "healthiness" of the food, ones metabolism and of course the amount of alcohol consumed.

                  Originally posted by Hollywood View Post
                  Let's wait for the details to come out in this story before we start ripping into the guy...
                  This.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by FlyingElvis View Post
                    Like I mentioned before - it all depends on the drinks. I like a glass of tequila when it's the good stuff. I don't measure out a shot, I pour up a tumbler. Those 4 Patrons could very well have been doubles or more. And we could be talking run of the mill Margaritas or a big ones. I'll wager the drinks are more likely to be large & strong in the VIP section. ;)


                    EDIT: And nothing says he was just waking up. My guess is he was out all night and on his way home. All speculation now, of course.
                    It wouldn't surprise me at all for it to be alcohol related. That wasn't my point of the post. It was, if he was telling the truth and he had 6 drinks, and stopped at midnight, there is no way he was still drunk at 7am.

                    Your body processes alcohol at the same speed whether you are awake or asleep.
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                    • #55
                      I got your point. & you're right - it would metabolize about the same awake or asleep.

                      I'm just saying that 6 drinks may be 6 doubles, which changes the calculations significantly. But it's entirely possible that he's not a lush like me. :D

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by j05son View Post
                        Yes, because every incident like this is the drivers fault 100% of the time.



                        Great job reading the story before jumping to conclusions...



                        Indeed.



                        There is no magic number to how fast your liver can breakdown alcohol. It factors on the amount of food eaten prior to drinking, the "healthiness" of the food, ones metabolism and of course the amount of alcohol consumed.



                        This.
                        http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

                        when you're behind the wheel it is your responsibility to make sure you don't kill anybody. other circumstances don't really matter. a man is dead and the police are going to probably charge stallworth. even if some people were idiots walking infront of oncoming traffic, that doesn't mean you can just hit them.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Prowler View Post
                          http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

                          even if some people were idiots walking infront of oncoming traffic, that doesn't mean you can just hit them.
                          Sorry but this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this site. Are you under 16 and unable to drive? Do you really think his (OR ANY OTHER human being) thought process was 'hmmm this guy is being an idiot and walking in front of me, I guess I can hit him'

                          It was an accident, **** happens man. If he could have avoided it he would have, he didn't and he is in a horrible situation now because of it.

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                          • #58
                            just explaining my point since i was negative rep'd for my previous comments. and i know it was an accident, but that doesn't mean it couldn't have been prevented.(for example by not speeding past a car to blow through a light, drinking, and whatever else allegedly happened)

                            by not obeying the laws, slowing down, not drinking, not looking, whatever the dude is dead. i'm just advocating some accountability and saying that irresponsible driving isn't cool.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Prowler View Post
                              http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

                              when you're behind the wheel it is your responsibility to make sure you don't kill anybody. other circumstances don't really matter. a man is dead and the police are going to probably charge stallworth. even if some people were idiots walking infront of oncoming traffic, that doesn't mean you can just hit them.
                              Is this a joke? I'm not even saying this because I am a Browns fan, I dislike Stallworth as a player a ton.

                              If I am going 70 mph im not taking my own life and possibly others driving because someone walked out in front of my car... If you can get out of the way you can, if you can't... well...

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                              • #60
                                this isn't a deer that got hit.

                                and my post was a reply to the previous post not a totally new statement. my counter argument to
                                Yes, because every incident like this is the drivers fault 100% of the time.
                                is that donte is probably going to be at fault and there is no excuse for killing somebody.
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