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    The "He's Not That Good" Thread

    Who is a player on your team that fans from other teams love but you think "He's Not That Good". :)

    Chiefs - Derrick Johnson I'm in no way calling him a bust in fact I think he is a pretty good player but no were near as good as some seem to think.

    He has had a very up and down career looks like and all pro one week and the next is invisible and you would forget he is on the field I feel some of that was coaching but still.

    Your picks?

  • LookItsAlDavis
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    Derrick Burgess. He's riding the success from one good year. (I know, he can't stay healthy, but it's getting out of hand.)

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  • Shiver
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    Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
    Hall is just extremely undisciplined. He had games where he was lights out, then the Oakland fiasco ruined him.

    He wasn't worth the money, but I think he's going to be a good player for them. the skins defense as a whole is going to be really good next year. its slept on.

    i just hope they don't draft a DE.

    Fixed for accuracy. He never, ever, had a complete season where he was consistent.

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  • rockio42
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    Originally posted by killxswitch View Post
    If people still think Joseph Addai is a great player, then I'd pick him.

    Bob Sanders is a possibility but that has more to do with his injuries. When he is healthy he is that good.

    I can't think of too many widely overrated Colts players. Maybe I just don't have a good idea of the national perception.
    What happened this year and part of last year, he seemed to just drop off

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  • bigbluedefense
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    Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
    Felix will make you eat those words, I'll be there to remind you :)
    I hope not :p

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  • LonghornsLegend
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    Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
    Players outside of my team:

    1. Felix Jones - i think the hype he has received is uncalled for. Yes, he has 9 YPC, but he ran it 30 times! I mean come on. And he already got injured. So theres durability issues. The guy is a home run threat, but he was the 4th option on a powerhouse Dallas offense that most teams didn't account for. Put him on Tennessee and he doesn't do what Chris Johnson did. Johnson was THE offense of the Titans, and still beasted it. I don't think Jones is that type of player. Im not saying he can't be good, but he's not going to be nearly as good as fans are hoping for.
    Felix will make you eat those words, I'll be there to remind you :)

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  • etk
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    Originally posted by BamaFalcon59 View Post
    I think they should have held out on the big contract, but I think he deserves it more so than a player like Asante Samuel or Nate Clements. When Hall is on his game he not only can lock down receivers, but is also one of the biggest playmakers in the league at cornerback.

    I would have given him a one year deal and then payed him if he performed. But he is the kind of CB who can warrent that money in that scheme. He and Landry could form something special.
    I agree. I think they overpaid, but Clements and Samuel don't even have the talent to EVER warrant that kind of money. I'd rather give it to Hall and support him well.

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  • bigbluedefense
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    Hall is just extremely undisciplined. He had years where he was lights out, then the Oakland fiasco ruined him.

    He wasn't worth the money, but I think he's going to be a good player for them. the skins defense as a whole is going to be really good next year. its slept on.

    i just hope they don't draft a DE.

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  • BamaFalcon59
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    Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
    I really don't think you should give 55 million dollars to a guy who constantly gets beat deep. Give Landry the money.
    I think they should have held out on the big contract, but I think he deserves it more so than a player like Asante Samuel or Nate Clements. When Hall is on his game he not only can lock down receivers, but is also one of the biggest playmakers in the league at cornerback.

    I would have given him a one year deal and then payed him if he performed. But he is the kind of CB who can warrent that money in that scheme. He and Landry could form something special.

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  • bearsfan_51
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    Originally posted by BamaFalcon59 View Post
    DeAngelo Hall played great once he got to Washington last season. They play a lot of man coverage, similar to Oakland, but have Landry preventing deep balls. For a corner like Hall who likes to gamble, that is very important.
    I really don't think you should give 55 million dollars to a guy who constantly gets beat deep. Give Landry the money.

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  • BamaFalcon59
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    DeAngelo Hall played great once he got to Washington last season. They play a lot of man coverage, similar to Oakland, but have Landry preventing deep balls. For a corner like Hall who likes to gamble, that is very important.

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  • princefielder28
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    Nick Collins is overrated; he's a talented player, no doubt, but he's not a Pro Bowl caliber player.

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  • bigbluedefense
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    Originally posted by Kase1 View Post
    WOW, im suprised you listed The Slot Machine and Freddy Bear, I usually consider them underated

    If I had 2 say some players on our team itd be Hixon (at WR), Diehl as well, and thats pretty much it
    Smith is a good player, but he's just not as good as we think he is. He's a smart shifty possession WR with sure hands. There are a lot of those in this league.

    I love the guy, Im just saying he's not as good as we think he is.

    As for Freddy, again, I like the guy, but he greatly benefits from our DEs. Just watch what Canty does playing next to Osi and Tuck this year. You'll forget all about Fred Robbins rather quickly.

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  • bigbluedefense
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    Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
    The Redskins gave Deangelo Hall 6 years-55 million (Samuel got 6 years 57 million). And that's after the Oakland disaster.

    In the past two years, Hall has received almost 50 million dollars in guaranteed money.


    Now THAT'S crazy.
    yeah, that was stupid. although im alone in thinking Hall is going to play well for them. he thrives in man coverage but can't play zone for his life, and they run a heavy man scheme in Washington.

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  • bearsfan_51
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    Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
    3. Asante Samuel - The guy can pick it off, but he leaves a lot to be desired as a true shut down corner. And he got shut down CB money.
    The Redskins gave Deangelo Hall 6 years-55 million (Samuel got 6 years 57 million). And that's after the Oakland disaster.

    Now THAT'S crazy.
    Last edited by bearsfan_51; 03-19-2009, 01:23 PM.

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