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  • #16
    I'd take Manning over Elway without a second thought.
    Originally posted by SNIPER26
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    • #17
      Originally posted by mqtirishfan View Post
      Except for that whole fact that longevity counts, so the total stats should as well.
      Sure it does. But as an example, say one guy played 5 seasons longer than another guy. The player with the shorter career was great every season he played. The guy with the longer career was great up until those last 5 seasons, when he was garbage and just couldn't give up the game. Now because of those last 5 seasons he ended up with higher counting stats. Would that make him a better player? I really don't think so.

      And let me point out right now that I'm not saying this is the case with Winslow and Gonzalez. It's just an example of how counting stats can be skewed.



      Originally posted by Jakey
      WWWWWWWWWTTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

      i am literally gonna kick a baby to death!

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      • #18
        Forum posters on nfl.com need to learn to actually read the article before making themselves look dumb. eg) asking why Rice and Marino only went 16th and 27th and complaining Favre and Brady are not in the Top 32.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Saints-Tigers View Post
          I'd take Manning over Elway without a second thought.
          How many Super Bowls has Manning taken the Colts to again?
          At this age, Elway had been to 3 already with nothing on offense around him.

          Oh, and Gonzalez didn't really put TE's on the map. Winslow, Newsome and Sharpe did that IMO.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jth1331 View Post
            How many Super Bowls has Manning taken the Colts to again?
            At this age, Elway had been to 3 already with nothing on offense around him.

            Oh, and Gonzalez didn't really put TE's on the map. Winslow, Newsome and Sharpe did that IMO.
            Peyton Manning has never had a defense. That argument can work both ways.

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            • #21
              ray guy.

              nuff said.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by AJHawk50 View Post
                Tony Gonzalez is a beast and a respectable leader. I don't think you can say the same about Winslow.
                You do realize this is the older Kellen Winslow, right?


                He was definitely a leader. He lost 10+ lbs that game and still blocked the kick to win the game.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by AJHawk50 View Post
                  Tony Gonzalez is a beast and a respectable leader. I don't think you can say the same about Winslow.
                  oh yeah, Winslow is a f***** solider, bet you can't say the same about Gonzo.

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                  • #24
                    Wait, people actually thought that was the now Kellen Winslow and not the old Charger great?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by jth1331 View Post
                      Wait, people actually thought that was the now Kellen Winslow and not the old Charger great?
                      Tony G Vs. Kellen Winslow Sr. is a good debate. vs Kellen Winslow Jr its no debate. Winslow Jr is a great player but Tony G also is great and has a strong body of work to reference.


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jth1331 View Post
                        Wait, people actually thought that was the now Kellen Winslow and not the old Charger great?
                        I'm really hoping the answer is no, otherwise what are they doing on a football forum?



                        Originally posted by Jakey
                        WWWWWWWWWTTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

                        i am literally gonna kick a baby to death!

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                        • #27
                          32. Drew Brees - 2001
                          Also receiving votes: Don Meredith, Chicago Bears, 1960; Bob St. Clair, San Francisco 49ers, 1953.
                          Seriously? Don Meredith was selected by the Cowboys.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Brent View Post
                            Seriously? Don Meredith was selected by the Cowboys.

                            Meredith was drafted by Chicago just like Eli Manning was drafted by San Diego. He was then traded to Dallas for future draft picks though I'm not sure if it was on the day of the draft like the Manning/Rivers deal or if it was before the start of preseason.

                            http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/MereDo00.htm

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by boknows34 View Post
                              Meredith was drafted by Chicago just like Eli Manning was drafted by San Diego. He was then traded to Dallas for future draft picks though I'm not sure if it was on the day of the draft like the Manning/Rivers deal or if it was before the start of preseason.

                              http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/MereDo00.htm
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