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  • #46
    Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
    McNabb has lost a bit of his mobility due to injuries and scheme, but when he was younger, he was a legitimate dual threat QB. I do think that the influence he had on the game will assist him in getting in. That Eagles team is perpetually good, and now that he has some legit weapons down there, probably better then he has ever had, I can see him having a few big years.

    For me, another question I ask myself when considering McNabb is "Is he a franchise QB? Has be provided his team with 10 years of great play?" The answer to that is yes. So for 10 years, Philly hasnt had to re-evaluate their situation at QB...I think McNabb gets in eventually. There are worse players in the HoF then McNabb.
    If the basis of getting in is being better than some of the people in there, then open up the floodgates, because there are a ton of players who have been better than Joe Namath and Lynn Swann.

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    • #47
      We had this debate a long time ago I couldn't find the thread though...

      My basic argument on why McNabb isn't a HOF QB
      In the modern Era only 3 QBs have not been either a SB winning QB (or pre SB equivalent) nor a League MVP.

      Jim Kelly - 5 Time Pro Bowler, 4 Consecutive SB appearances.

      Warren Moon - 9 Time Pro Bowl selection

      Sonny JURGENSEN - 5 time Pro Bowler 3 time NFL passing leader probably the best argument for McNabb (stats wise) assuming McNabb has 2-3 Good seasons left.


      McNabb - 5x Pro Bowl 1 SB appearance.
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      Originally posted by njx9
      oh please. as if canadians even know what beer is.

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      • #48
        Since I don't ever see McNabb winning a Super Bowl - no.

        McNabb is an underachiever, there is no place in the Hall for underachievers.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by StorminNorman View Post
          Since I don't ever see McNabb winning a Super Bowl - no.

          McNabb is an underachiever, there is no place in the Hall for underachievers.
          Really? You deserved to be neg repped.

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          • #50
            of the current veteran qb's brady and manning are the only two players who are HOF bound to me


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            - Corner or Wideout in the first
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            • #51
              Originally posted by broth223 View Post
              We had this debate a long time ago I couldn't find the thread though...

              My basic argument on why McNabb isn't a HOF QB
              In the modern Era only 3 QBs have not been either a SB winning QB (or pre SB equivalent) nor a League MVP.

              Jim Kelly - 5 Time Pro Bowler, 4 Consecutive SB appearances.

              Warren Moon - 9 Time Pro Bowl selection

              Sonny JURGENSEN - 5 time Pro Bowler 3 time NFL passing leader probably the best argument for McNabb (stats wise) assuming McNabb has 2-3 Good seasons left.

              McNabb - 5x Pro Bowl 1 SB appearance.
              Is this it?
              http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29775 ?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by tjsunstein View Post
                yeah that was it I'm going to quote my post in that thread to accentuate the point I made in the previous page.

                Originally posted by broth223 View Post
                Not stupid at all

                How many Hall of fame QB's in the modern era are lacking BOTH a league MVP AND a Super Bowl win (or pre super bowl equivilent) answer 3

                Player Super Bowl? MVP?
                TROY AIKMAN Yes NO
                GEORGE BLANDA Yes NO* (not applicable for the first half of his career)
                TERRY BRADSHAW Yes Yes
                LEN DAWSON Yes Yes
                JOHN ELWAY Yes Yes
                OTTO GRAHAM Yes N/A
                BOB GRIESE Yes No* (I'm only counting AP MVP he was NEA MVP)
                SONNY JURGENSEN No No (May be the best arguement for McNabb)
                JIM KELLY No No (went to 4 back to back SB's)
                BOBBY LAYNE Yes N/A
                DAN MARINO No Yes
                JOE MONTANA Yes Yes
                WARREN MOON No No (9 time Pro bowl)
                JOE NAMATH Yes No
                BART STARR Yes Yes
                FRAN TARKENTON Yes Yes
                Y.A. TITTLE No Yes
                NORM VAN BROCKLIN Yes N/A
                STEVE YOUNG Yes Yes
                EDIT JOHNNY UNITAS Yes Yes
                ROGER STAUBACH Yes No?



                Donovan McNabb No No
                And Sonny Jugenson was the lead the NFL in passing for 3 seasons I don't know if McNabb ever did that. So I say yeah retire McNabb's number he was a great Eagle for a long time but his bust doesn't belong in Canton.
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                Originally posted by njx9
                oh please. as if canadians even know what beer is.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by broth223 View Post
                  yeah that was it I'm going to quote my post in that thread to accentuate the point I made in the previous page.

                  And Sonny Jugenson was the lead the NFL in passing for 3 seasons I don't know if McNabb ever did that. So I say yeah retire McNabb's number he was a great Eagle for a long time but his bust doesn't belong in Canton.
                  Was never in the top 5 for Passing Yards in a season.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by wicket View Post
                    of the current veteran qb's brady and manning are the only two players who are HOF bound to me
                    What about Kurt Warner?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by wonderbredd24 View Post
                      What about Kurt Warner?
                      I think he should be in but there's a thread about that too. Somewhere...

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by broth223 View Post
                        We had this debate a long time ago I couldn't find the thread though...

                        My basic argument on why McNabb isn't a HOF QB
                        In the modern Era only 3 QBs have not been either a SB winning QB (or pre SB equivalent) nor a League MVP.

                        Jim Kelly - 5 Time Pro Bowler, 4 Consecutive SB appearances.

                        Warren Moon - 9 Time Pro Bowl selection

                        Sonny JURGENSEN - 5 time Pro Bowler 3 time NFL passing leader probably the best argument for McNabb (stats wise) assuming McNabb has 2-3 Good seasons left.


                        McNabb - 5x Pro Bowl 1 SB appearance.
                        You forgot Dan Fouts.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by tjsunstein View Post
                          I think he should be in but there's a thread about that too. Somewhere...
                          yeah, and in that thread i dont see warner as a hof qb either. he had to many bad year in the middle. Outside of manning and brady the only current guy well into his carreer with a small shot are brees and roethlisberger imo. Brees needs way more teamsucces to get there though (and a couple more of the year like last year. Roethlisberger has the superbowls but needs some great statistical seasons to get there.


                          Saints 2014 draft wish list:
                          - No pass rusher till the fourth round (or preferably at all)
                          - Corner or Wideout in the first
                          - No reaching
                          - No Kelvin Benjamin

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by wonderbredd24 View Post
                            What about Kurt Warner?
                            To me, Kurt Warner is a no doubt HoFer...I have a hard time making an argument against it.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by JT Jag View Post
                              Well, my minimum prereq is that the quarterback has to have been arguably the best in the NFL for some period of time.

                              And I can't convince myself that McNabb has ever been better then either Peyton Manning or, since 2003, Tom Brady.
                              So over the past 30 years the HOF QBs would look something like this:
                              Manning
                              Brady
                              Favre
                              Young
                              Montana
                              Marino

                              6 HOF QBs over the past 30 years...
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                                So over the past 30 years the HOF QBs would look something like this:
                                Manning
                                Brady
                                Favre
                                Young
                                Montana
                                Marino

                                6 HOF QBs over the past 30 years...
                                Over the past 15-20 years, not 30 years. And yes. What's wrong with only 6 QBs in that time? Again, it's Hall of Fame not Hall of Very Good.

                                Oldie but a goodie.

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