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  • #61
    Originally posted by Sniper View Post
    Well, if you're making a guy the highest-paid player in a league with a bunch of overpaid players, shouldn't he be a stud, elite QB, HOFer?
    He shouldn't be the highest paid player in the league. I dont believe he should be, but, he won't be the highest paid player for long. In 2-4 years, this contract will just look average for young starting QB's. Rivers' and probably Cutler's deals will blow Eli's out of the water

    but from the Giants standpoint, who cares? He got his money, we keep our QB. We keep our figurehead and we move on. He's the face of our franchise and honestly, I dont think Reese and Abrams give a damn if Eli's the highest paid or not, we got our guy who led the offense that got us a ring.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by scottyboy View Post
      but you can bet your butt when Rivers signs his new deal, it'll be higher than Eli's. that's how the NFL's economy is working right now.
      And it will still be moronic.

      and dont give me that, the Chargers have a very good D and freaking Tomlinson. they didn't win with him in his prime.
      The defense isn't as good as the Giants', and neither is the run game. Tomlinson's only one guy. Plus, who's SD's elite receiver?

      and you've got Westbrook and have had some of the better defenses I've seen in a while, the Eagles had their chance, and blew it in the super bowl.
      Having Westbrook doesn't mean we run the ball. You know damn well that we don't run the ball.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
        Don't Eagles fans always complain they need a #1 WR for Donovan? Why is it that Eli doesn't work with the same standard? When Donovan had a great defense, a #1 WR, and a great running game he didn't win the Super Bowl so I don't want to hear it.
        If I recall McNabb was throwing up in the huddle in the 4th quarter. Instead of making the neccesary plays.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
          Don't Eagles fans always complain they need a #1 WR for Donovan? Why is it that Eli doesn't work with the same standard? When Donovan had a great defense, a #1 WR, and a great running game he didn't win the Super Bowl so I don't want to hear it.
          Where's this great running game you speak of? The one that was 24th in the league in yards per game in 2004? Don't let facts get in the way of a good time.

          Donovan's done a hell of a lot more with average receivers than Eli has done with the same caliber of receivers. See second half of season, 2008.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Sniper View Post
            And none of Phil Rivers, Donovan McNabb and Tony Romo deserve to be the highest-paid player in the game. Give either Rivers or McNabb that type of running game to go with the defense and a #1 target and both of them win the Super Bowl.
            What is this a mix and match now? Ok.. Give us Randy Moss, trade Gilbride, for Ken Whisenhunt, or Cam Cameron like Rivers and Ben had to groom them, and get rid of Tim Lewis and hired spags from the beginning and we could have won a lot more superbowls.. And I would like to build a time machine and get Jerry Rice in his prime.. Is that asking too much?

            It is, what it is, no need to play let's pretend.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking View Post
              What is this a mix and match now?
              No, it's illustrating that there a lot of QBs who could have done the same job as Manning.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Sniper View Post
                No, it's illustrating that there a lot of QBs who could have done the same job as Manning.
                You don't know that. Donovan couldn't do what he did what he had a shot against the Pats. An arguably less talented Pats team too.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Jughead10 View Post
                  You don't know that. Donovan couldn't do what he did what he had a shot against the Pats. An arguably less talented Pats team too.
                  ...with a less talented Eagles team.

                  Anyway, this discussion's going nowhere. Congrats on drastically overpaying for an average QB. We'll see how it works out.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sniper View Post
                    No, it's illustrating that there a lot of QBs who could have done the same job as Manning.
                    It's not illustrating anything because it hasn't happened.. All this is showing is your annoyed for some godly reason and you're not making any sense on this specific issue.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Jughead10 View Post
                      You don't know that. Donovan couldn't do what he did what he had a shot against the Pats. An arguably less talented Pats team too.
                      Less talented offensive Pats team, but a more talented defensive Pats team.

                      Eli, IMO, is not a top 5 QB, but to say he isn't good is going overboard. His contract is ridiculous now, especially when comparing him to other players at his position, but that is how the contracts in the NFL are going. Until there is a rookie scale and/or a halt in the ever rising salary cap, it will continue on this way, or unless there is a max contract like in the NBA.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Bigburt63 View Post
                        Less talented offensive Pats team, but a more talented defensive Pats team.

                        Eli, IMO, is not a top 5 QB, but to say he isn't good is going overboard. His contract is ridiculous now, especially when comparing him to other players at his position, but that is how the contracts in the NFL are going. Until there is a rookie scale and/or a halt in the ever rising salary cap, it will continue on this way, or unless there is a max contract like in the NBA.
                        Bingo! That's what the Eli haters on this board and our own giants MB need to realize. This money is based on his accomplishments for the team AND because of the position he plays. Someone else will come along and beat it. Is it too much? yeah, but that's the market..

                        Brett Favre (10 years, $101 million from Green Bay in 2001), Drew Bledsoe (10 years, $103 million from New England in 2001), Donovan McNabb (12 years, $115 million from Philadelphia in 2002), Daunte Culpepper (10 years, $102 million from Minnesota in 2003), Michael Vick (10 ears, $130 million from Atlanta in 2004), Carson Palmer (nine-years, $118.75 million from Cincinnati in 2005), and Ben Roethlisberger (eight years, $102 million from Pittsburgh in 2008)

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                        • #72
                          It also should be noted, that none of those players earned the complete value of those contracts just listed. Very few NFL players ever do.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Sniper View Post
                            Where's this great running game you speak of? The one that was 24th in the league in yards per game in 2004? Don't let facts get in the way of a good time.

                            Donovan's done a hell of a lot more with average receivers than Eli has done with the same caliber of receivers. See second half of season, 2008.
                            You still averaged 4.4 yards a carry that year good for 10th in the NFL. Maybe Reid should have pounded the run more?
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Jughead10 View Post
                              It also should be noted, that none of those players earned the complete value of those contracts just listed. Very few NFL players ever do.
                              It's all relative though, as (generally) the more a contract is worth, the more guaranteed money is given. So even though the max contract is never reached, it is still more valuable than the next highest amount.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Jughead10 View Post
                                It also should be noted, that none of those players earned the complete value of those contracts just listed. Very few NFL players ever do.
                                Well Eli will receive every dollar in this contract. I'm actually suprised at the length of the deal. I thought it would be a 10 year thing to spread out the cap number.
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