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  • The Hall of Fame Debate

    Alright, the point of this thread is to debate whether or not certain players will be inducted into the Hall of Fame after they retire.

    There are some players that are automatic "shoe-ins" (Brady, Manning, Tomlinson). However, there are some players that are walking the line between Yay and Nay (McNabb, Warner).

    So debate on whether or not these players will eventually reach Canton...feel free to discuss any player at anytime.

    If needed, here is a list of players that can be considered:

    Yay or Nay
    Terrell Owens WR Buffalo
    Jason Taylor LB/DE Miami
    Fred Taylor RB New England
    Richard Seymour DE New England
    Alan Faneca G New York Jets
    Ed Reed S Baltimore
    Jamal Lewis RB Cleveland
    Troy Polamalu S Pittsburgh
    Hines Ward WR Pittsburgh
    Kevin Mawae C Tennessee
    Antonio Gates TE San Diego
    Brian Waters G Kansas City
    Zach Thomas LB Kansas City
    Lorenzo Neal FB Oakland
    Nnamdi Asomough CB Oakland
    Champ Bailey CB Denver
    Brian Dawkins S Denver
    Brian Westbrook RB Phiadelphia
    Donovan McNabb QB Philadelphia
    Steve Hutchinson G Minnesota
    Brian Urlacher LB CHICAGO!!!
    Orlando Pace LT Chicago
    Kurt Warner QB Arizona
    Drew Brees QB New Orleans
    Rhonde Barber CB Tampa Bay
    Ben Roethlisberger QB Pittsburgh
    Bill Cowher Coach
    Tom Coughlin Coach New York Giants
    Jeff Fisher Coach Tennessee

    These are the players who I consider "Shoe-Ins"

    Tom Brady QB New England
    Peyton Manning QB Indianapolis
    Tony Gonzalez TE Atlanta
    Ray Lewis LB Baltimore
    Marvin Harrison WR Free Agent
    Derrick Brooks LB Free Agent
    Walter Jones LT Seattle
    Jonathan Ogden LT
    Larry Allen G
    Brett Favre QB Minnesota
    LaDainian Tomlinson RB San Diego
    Torry Holt WR Jacksonville
    Isaac Bruce WR San Francisco
    Junior Seau LB Free Agent???
    Adam Vinatieri K Indianapolis Colts (the dude won two SBs with kicks)
    Bill Belichick Coach New England
    Mike Shannahan Coach
    Tony Dungy Coach (I think the fact that he was the first black coach to win the Super Bowl will seal it off)
    Bill Parcells Coach (Honestly don't know if he is already in, I doubt it)


    I'm done listing them and I'm sure that I've missed some so please feel free to mention them and explain why or why not they deserve to be in Canton.



    Obviously, I've listed some players that are somewhat in their prime (Nnamdi, Roethlisberger and Brees) but they should be given some consideration assuming that they continue their stellar careers. Don't be shy to recommend future essential players to the league (Matt Ryan, Adrian Peterson and Patrick Willis)


    I'll start it off with the player that seems to be a hot topic with the Hall of Fame...

    Donovan McNabb to the Hall of Fame?

    Yay or Nay?
    Last edited by JFLO; 08-21-2009, 06:21 PM.

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  • #2
    Originally posted by JFLO View Post
    Donovan McNabb to the Hall of Fame?

    Yay or Nay?
    for me a Nay

    Brian Dawkins?


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    - No pass rusher till the fourth round (or preferably at all)
    - Corner or Wideout in the first
    - No reaching
    - No Kelvin Benjamin

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    • #3
      I think you should add maybe in the mix besides just yay or nay.

      As for the thread as is first one that jumps off at me is Brain Waters no way does he get in the HOF and that is a coming from a huge Chiefs fan.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Splat420 View Post
        I think you should add maybe in the mix besides just yay or nay.

        As for the thread as is first one that jumps off at me is Brain Waters no way does he get in the HOF and that is a coming from a huge Chiefs fan.
        Wouldn't that just defeat the purpose of deciding yes or no?

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        • #5
          I think some players are borderline hall of famers and you can't just say %100 yes or no.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Splat420 View Post
            I think some players are borderline hall of famers and you can't just say %100 yes or no.
            The selection committee can't write "Maybe" on their Hall of Fame ballots...

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            • #7
              Last time I checked non of us are on the HOF selection committee....:)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Splat420 View Post
                Last time I checked non of us are on the HOF selection committee....:)
                You get the point though...

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                • #9
                  I think Champ is a shoe in, same with Kurt Warner.

                  I'll give a definate no to Seymour, Taylor, and Ward.

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                  • #10
                    Yay or Nay
                    Terrell Owens WR Buffalo Yes
                    Jason Taylor LB/DE Miami Yes
                    Fred Taylor RB New England No
                    Richard Seymour DE New England Not yet
                    Alan Faneca G New York Jets No
                    Ed Reed S Baltimore Yes
                    Jamal Lewis RB Cleveland No
                    Troy Polamalu S Pittsburgh Not yet
                    Hines Ward WR Pittsburgh No
                    Kevin Mawae C Tennessee No
                    Antonio Gates TE San Diego Not yet
                    Brian Waters G Kansas City No
                    Zach Thomas LB Kansas City No
                    Lorenzo Neal FB Oakland Yes
                    Nnamdi Asomough CB Oakland Not yet
                    Champ Bailey CB Denver Not yet
                    Brian Dawkins S Denver Yes
                    Brian Westbrook RB Phiadelphia No
                    Donovan McNabb QB Philadelphia No
                    Steve Hutchinson G Minnesota Yes
                    Brian Urlacher LB Chicago No
                    Orlando Pace LT Chicago Yes
                    Kurt Warner QB Arizona Yes
                    Drew Brees QB New Orleans No
                    Rhonde Barber CB Tampa Bay Yes
                    Ben Roethlisberger QB Pittsburgh Not yet
                    Bill Cowher Coach Yes
                    Tom Coughlin Coach New York Giants No
                    Jeff Fisher Coach Tennessee No

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                    • #11
                      Jeff Fisher will more than likely get in. He'll more than likely coach about 10 more years and he'll get a super bowl. I think all those wins in the next ten years added to his current wins, plus a super bowl will get him in.
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                      • #12
                        IDK if Nnamdi will get in or not. He has had 3 good seasons(1 he had a lot of picks, others he just completely shut down the WR he was guarding). I think he needs to get more ints for that stat people out there to give him more respect. If can keep it up what hes doing for another 3-4 years then switch to FS for us and play well there, it should be close


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                        • #13
                          McNabb yay, Dawkins nay.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by E-Man View Post
                            McNabb yay, Dawkins nay.
                            Seriously? I have it the other way around.

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                            • #15
                              Terrell Owens WR Buffalo- Yes
                              Jason Taylor LB/DE Miami- Yes
                              Fred Taylor RB New England- No
                              Richard Seymour DE New England- Yes, he has been the model for 3-4 ends for nearly a decade and he has been the best player at his spot for nearly a decade. Plus he was the best player on his defense that won 3 superbowls and went undefeated. That is obviously a very simple argument but I think he makes it.
                              Alan Faneca G New York Jets- No
                              Ed Reed S Baltimore- Yes if he plays for more than one more year
                              Jamal Lewis RB Cleveland- No
                              Troy Polamalu S Pittsburgh- Yes
                              Hines Ward WR Pittsburgh- No
                              Kevin Mawae C Tennessee- Yes
                              Antonio Gates TE San Diego- No
                              Brian Waters G Kansas City- No
                              Zach Thomas LB Kansas City- No
                              Lorenzo Neal FB Oakland- No
                              Nnamdi Asomough CB Oakland- No
                              Champ Bailey CB Denver- Yes
                              Brian Dawkins S Denver- Yes
                              Brian Westbrook RB Phiadelphia- No way
                              Donovan McNabb QB Philadelphia- Yes, needs a superbowl to be a shoe-in.
                              Steve Hutchinson G Minnesota- Yes
                              Brian Urlacher LB Minnesota- No
                              Orlando Pace LT Chicago- Yes
                              Kurt Warner QB Arizona- No, he has a five year gap of virtually no production.
                              Drew Brees QB New Orleans- Yes, but only if he wins the big one
                              Rhonde Barber CB Tampa Bay- No
                              Ben Roethlisberger QB Pittsburgh- Yes
                              Bill Cowher Coach- No
                              Tom Coughlin Coach New York Giants- No
                              Jeff Fisher Coach Tennessee- If he ever wins a superbowl yes. 15 years with one team is incredible.

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