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  • #16
    Well this last week, when all the starters are supposed to be starting and playing, Ginn returned two kickoffs, so I'm hopeful that means that he will be returning kicks in the season. We had just cut the guy we'd been trying there the previous two weeks though.

    I don't know if I'd consider Bess a starter either. Our depth chart is very unclear right now after Ginn. Right now Brian Hartline is the other starter.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by dolphinfan2k5 View Post
      Well this last week, when all the starters are supposed to be starting and playing, Ginn returned two kickoffs, so I'm hopeful that means that he will be returning kicks in the season. We had just cut the guy we'd been trying there the previous two weeks though.

      I don't know if I'd consider Bess a starter either. Our depth chart is very unclear right now after Ginn. Right now Brian Hartline is the other starter.
      The guy's name was Chris Williams. Its a damn shame he isnt on the team anymore. He looked like he could be a good returner. He was fast and hit the holes hard and quick in the return game, but the only problem is that he couldnt catch a ball clean to save his life. Almost every kickoff or punt he caught it would bounce off his hands and he'd had to catch it again.

      Props to fenikz on the awesome sig

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      • #18
        Originally posted by aNYtitan View Post
        What happened with Ginn Jr.? Has he worked out for the Fins?
        He's improving every year and this year he looks poise to breakout. Its like night and day compared to how he looked as a rookie to how he looks now. He use to be just fast and not quick. Only thing that was going good for him was straight line speed and his hands. Now he has improved getting off the line, his route running, he is going in the middle finally to catch the balls and now he is adding some quickness in his game. Still needs to work on being consistent though.

        Props to fenikz on the awesome sig

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        • #19
          Originally posted by GB12 View Post
          Tramon Williams started 9 games last year and will be a fulltime starter once Al Harris is done.
          I thought Will Blackmon was your #1 return man, no?

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          • #20
            I think as of now Desean Jackson is still returning punts because Maclin has been Mr. Dropsie.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Lions WMD View Post
              I thought Will Blackmon was your #1 return man, no?
              Will Blackmon will be the primary returner this year, but Williams will be back deep with him on kicks. Williams has also been our punt returner and kick returner in the past.

              I thought that counted enough for the purpose of this thread. If it's just #1s then I guess take him off.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                Will Blackmon will be the primary returner this year, but Williams will be back deep with him on kicks. Williams has also been our punt returner and kick returner in the past.

                I thought that counted enough for the purpose of this thread. If it's just #1s then I guess take him off.
                Oh I don't care what the point of the thread was. I'm just trying to get some inside info for my Fantasy league which rewards for Return Yards.

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                • #23
                  oh yeah i remember blackman was pretty valuable last year

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BlindSite View Post
                    Ginn was always going to be a three year project, I guess this season will tell us for sure.

                    I don't know why teams are so reluctant to have the best man doing the job. Realistically there's not that much more of a chance of getting injured running back a kick. In fact I'm pretty sure any returned I've seen get injured recently got hurt in TC playing with the second teams, or got hurt blocking or something else, not running back a kick.
                    It is just tiring if you have to do an extra few sprints a game and take some pretty big hits too. A starter is already taking a good amount of snaps, teams don't like overloading them if they don't have to.

                    Watch out for Mike Goodson, he is going to get carries and catches this year for the Panthers, and he is returning kickoffs. If this kid gets any daylight, he is insanely shifty and fast. The new wedge rules do hurt that position though. I think he could return one or two. But I'd wait until its easy to see how the Panthers will use Deangelo, Stewart and Goodson.

                    I don't really know of any others out there

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                    • #25
                      i dont know that i consider what randel el does with punts returning but hes starts at wr too at this point.

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                      • #26
                        In our IDP league that counts 1 point per 25 return yards of any type, Terrence McGee was the Tiger Woods of all IDP players for three straight years. Good tackle guy, got a decent amount of deflections and picks, wasn't quite good enough in coverage to discourage a lot of traffic going his way, and basically got 1 point for every time his team allowed a score, all in addition to the fact that he was a terrific returner that occasionally took one to the house and/or had a big return.


                        If Leodis McKelvin has a similar set of abilities (and we've seen his dynamic ability as a returner quite a few times) then he could be the #1 IDP player in any format that counts return yardage. You have no idea how much of an advantage it is to have a defensive player scoring 12 ppg when the next best player (Ray Lewis in his prime) is getting 10 ppg and most DBs are averaging 7ish.

                        Take it for what its worth.
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                        He was protecting his self
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                        From what? His leg?
                        Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck
                        That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Lions WMD View Post
                          Oh I don't care what the point of the thread was. I'm just trying to get some inside info for my Fantasy league which rewards for Return Yards.
                          Oh don't we all know what leage that is.... :D

                          WAR LEAGUE FTW!!!!


                          Saw Devin Thomas returning kicks...

                          Saw Laurence Maroney returning kicks...

                          Oh yea, btw... they're on my team because I did my research right. That's why I'm the champ! :p

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                            Oh don't we all know what leage that is.... :D

                            WAR LEAGUE FTW!!!!


                            Saw Devin Thomas returning kicks...

                            Saw Laurence Maroney returning kicks...

                            Oh yea, btw... they're on my team because I did my research right. That's why I'm the champ! :p
                            Stop stalking me! :(

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                            • #29
                              Bills dst

                              I dont know if tramon williams will be returnings kicks or not but the packers dst is not bad to have. on offense ted ginn off the top of the head



                              On Andrew Luck
                              Originally posted by killxswitch
                              People are expecting him to be some sort of alien defense-destroying robot QB and it's just not realistic.

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                              • #30
                                Reggie Bush and Wes Welker

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